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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30110 Gender:	Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics Reply #45 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 7:11pm Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 4:12pm: The prediction from climate science was more severe weather extremes ....well that proved correct.....and yet the deniers will still deny until their last breath....call that human conditioning. More extreme than what? You're full of 'it.
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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #46 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 7:15pm

The People of the World
don't need 'Science' or 'Politicians' to tell them that the Weather on Earth has become more extreme, erratic, unpredictable and of much change in less time than a Century.
People 'remember'.

It doesn't matter if it is Man Made or a Natural Occurance happening.
All that they know is that the World they live in seems like it is 'dying', not 'growing' - with all this new found Scientific 'wonder'. Roll Eyes

People of the World are scared.
The Children of the Future are scared that there will be none for them.

It doesn't matter if it is Man-Made or Natural.
Nor if it is 'both' contributing.
The point is that people should now invest in NASA's Rescue Package of all those wonderful worlds out there to invade, er - explore and live forever! Donate to NASA now!

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #47 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 7:58pm

The three hysterias of the denialist camp:

The classical/conspiracy hysteria:
It's all a giant conspiracy between the scientific community and the UN, who are trying to take over the world.

The pseudo-intellectual hysteria:
Frost this morning, therefor no global warming.

The libertarian hysteria:
Calling me an idiot infringes on my right to say stupid things.

Does that cover all of them?

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:30am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

Who's hysterical?

The people who seek out nonsense on the internet so they can pretend relative hysteria is normal.

Or people who follow a global lunacy like a religion?

You're looking in the mirror aren't you?

Yes Gnads, that is hysterical too - trying to pass off what the global scientific community is up to as lunacy and a religion. Are you ever not hysterically misrepresenting things you don't like?

...meanwhile Lee is so hysterical he cannot remember what he posted the day before. He is now blaming me for this:

lee wrote on Nov 24^th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

Making a perfectly acceptable statement is hardly hysterical. More like historical.

Now can you explain why you described it as historical Lee? Or have you forgotten again?

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #48 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 8:18pm

Nice work with the crayons Gnads:

Gnads wrote on Nov 25^th, 2019 at 6:40am:

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Mike O’Connor-October 21, 2019 8:00pm
There are times when I feel like a stranger in my own country, the urge to scream in frustration all but overwhelming.
My problem is that I’m not a believer. I don’t believe in man-made climate change and shake my head in bemusement at the people who are presently running through the streets screaming “climate emergency.”
We now live in an age in which if something is said often enough by self-interested parties then it must be true. Anyone who attempts to voice a contrary view is howled down and branded a “denier.”
No one dares to be different. Such is the desperate need to be accepted and on-trend that we will happily go along with any point of view which will be favourably viewed by social media.
The intellectual laziness of the masses is as sad as it is tragic. We have become a nation of unthinking morons which unquestioningly accepts the views of self-anointed “experts” without wondering if their shouted declarations that the end is nigh might just be driven by the urgent need to justify their existence and get their hands on another research grant.
To be a climate denier is to suffer eternal damnation but it is perfectly fine to be a democracy denier as witnessed by the fact that there are large numbers of very noisy people who still can’t accept that Donald Trump is President of the United States and Scott Morrison Prime Minister of Australia.
They weren’t supposed to win. How did this happen? Apparently the Russians rigged the US elections but how Morrison managed to end up in The Lodge remains a mystery. The man’s a Christian, for God’s sake, and doesn’t believe that the world is about to end. Go figure.

Nor do I believe that people who attempt to lie and cheat their way into the country should be allowed to settle here and struggle to understand why people like Minister for Home Affairs Peter Dutton is pilloried for doing what he is paid to do — protect our borders.
My advice to those with bleeding heart tales who wish to live here? Get in the queue.
Admitting that you admire Dutton for his forthrightness is, of course, akin to confessing to devil worship and not something you would dream of doing in the company of strangers lest you be set upon and tarred and feathered.
I also have no time for the United Nations, a multi-billion dollar club which boasts among its members some of the great hypocrites and pontificators of our time and which seethes with corruption.
Australia Day is three months distant so the non-indigenous among us must ready ourselves to be branded as white supremacists celebrating a bloody invasion.
I don’t buy it. Instead of wasting energy moaning about historical wrongs, tackle the alcohol, drug and sexual abuse and poor parenting that denies so many indigenous children a shot at a better life.
This is not a point of view that people publicly express because they know they will be denounced as being racists if they do so. So be it.
Christmas in also coming but don’t mention Jesus or the birth of Christ lest in so doing, you offend someone and that would never do.
I’ll continue to live, then, in my own little offensive, racist, climate denier world but I’ve a feeling that I am not alone. Please feel free to join me.
Mike O’Connor is a columnist for The Courier-Mail.

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #49 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 9:22pm

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 7:58pm:

...meanwhile Lee is so hysterical he cannot remember what he posted the day before. He is now blaming me for this:

lee wrote on Nov 24th, 2019 at 3:41pm:
Making a perfectly acceptable statement is hardly hysterical. More like historical.

Now can you explain why you described it as historical Lee? Or have you forgotten again?

I didn't forget in the first place petal. You were referring to a quote I made. Wink

I didn't blame you for it. I said you were responsible. responsibility is not blame. Wink

lee wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:31am:

freediver wrote Today at 4:45am:
Calm down Lee. This is what I asked: why did you describe your elephant parameterisation quip as "historical"?

Now perfectly acceptable statements have always been made, that makes them historical. Why would you think otherwise? Grin

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #50 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 9:58pm

lee wrote on Nov 24^th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 24^th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

lee wrote on Nov 24^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

"With four parameters I can fit an elephant, and with five I can make him wiggle his trunk." John von Neumann

Yes petal was there something you wanted to know?

Making a perfectly acceptable statement is hardly hysterical. More like historical.

lee wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:31am:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 6:45am:

Calm down Lee. This is what I asked: why did you describe your elephant parameterisation quip as "historical"?

he short answer is I didn't. You did. Grin

So now you remember saying it, but forget denying you said it? Is this why you think scientists cannot model the influence of four different factors at once, on account of your difficulty holding two thoughts at the same time?

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #51 - Nov 26^th, 2019 at 10:10pm

DONATE YOUR MONEY TO NASA NOW!

NASA will provide the answer of a Geo-sphere around the planet to help the planet's weather.
By coincidence, NASA has recently discovered a planet that appears, by all calculations, to have a 'Geo-Sphere' around it.
Don't worry about NASA's Scientists working to prevent the problem, you can rest assure that NASA will provide a 'Cure' for a nominal price. Wink

NASA's 'Air-Conditioning' will allow you to live in perfect weather conditions of reliable light rains and no more heatwaves or blizzards.
The Dinosaurs enjoyed a constant stable 30C at the Equator and 10C at the Poles. NASA can give you that.

DONATE YOUR MONEY TO NASA NOW!

ScoMo already has ( Tribute to the USA).
You can too!

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #52 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 12:08am

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 9:58pm:

o now you remember saying it, but forget denying you said it?

No petal. you made a false attribution. Not my fault live with it. Grin

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 9:58pm:

Is this why you think scientists cannot model the influence of four different factors at once, on account of your difficulty holding two thoughts at the same time?

See I told you it was too complex for you. Grin

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Reply #53 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 6:33am

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More extreme than what?

You're full of 'it.

As one recall's the denialist were predicting weather is cooling because one or two below avg cool days, now as we are seeing the weather is warming and in prolonged drought that has created the most extreme bushfires....as the climate scientist were predicting, as they are also predicting rising sea levels...it is not hunky dory with the climate as the denialist are saying...and no doubt with waters lapping at their feet the denialist will still deny cliamte change is happening....CO2 is good for the planet they argue.

Just as E=mc2 its a known since the 18th C than adding more CO2 to the atmosphere will create global warming in the greenhouse effect.

Less than 10 years to just keep warming levels at 2 degs above avg....keep the way its going and it rises to 6 degs....catastrophic.

Just as Energy minister Angus Taylor uses false evidence to discredit Clover Moore over climate change, (conservatives tend to be malicious), the denialist are being malicious with climate change with false and cherry picked data that is designed for the fossil fuel industry to maintain pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere....which is criminal behaviour....they know what they are doing is killing the planet.

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #54 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 6:53am

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 7:58pm:

The three hysterias of the denialist camp:

The classical/conspiracy hysteria:
It's all a giant conspiracy between the scientific community and the UN, who are trying to take over the world.

The pseudo-intellectual hysteria:
Frost this morning, therefor no global warming.

The libertarian hysteria:
Calling me an idiot infringes on my right to say stupid things.

Does that cover all of them?

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:30am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

Who's hysterical?

The people who seek out nonsense on the internet so they can pretend relative hysteria is normal.

Or people who follow a global lunacy like a religion?

You're looking in the mirror aren't you?

Yes Gnads, that is hysterical too - trying to pass off what the global scientific community is up to as lunacy and a religion. Are you ever not hysterically misrepresenting things you don't like?

...meanwhile Lee is so hysterical he cannot remember what he posted the day before. He is now blaming me for this:

lee wrote on Nov 24^th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

Making a perfectly acceptable statement is hardly hysterical. More like historical.

Now can you explain why you described it as historical Lee? Or have you forgotten again?

Of course FD Roll Eyes

.....you're starting to sound like a Feminazi

no matter how you word it it's abuse. Roll Eyes

It's not a majority of opinion ... you close off any argument to the contrary ....not just my opinion ... but scientific opinion.

You are as bad in your reactions as looney lefties are about (your) conservatism.

Accusing others of "hysteria" when hands down the "end is nigh" hysteria is in the court of Climate Change activists .....

and their little poster girl Greta they use to front their agenda.

Get out & "Clean up Australia" & clean up our oceans of plastics ..... instead of trying to support
your misguided belief that the planet will be destroyed in 11 years time if something is not done about CO2 levels.

Never mind that any increase has been minimal and it's a vital part of plant & human survival.

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #55 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 6:57am

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:

Nice work with the crayons Gnads:

Gnads wrote on Nov 25^th, 2019 at 6:40am:

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Mike O’Connor-October 21, 2019 8:00pm
There are times when I feel like a stranger in my own country, the urge to scream in frustration all but overwhelming.
My problem is that I’m not a believer. I don’t believe in man-made climate change and shake my head in bemusement at the people who are presently running through the streets screaming “climate emergency.”
We now live in an age in which if something is said often enough by self-interested parties then it must be true. Anyone who attempts to voice a contrary view is howled down and branded a “denier.”
No one dares to be different. Such is the desperate need to be accepted and on-trend that we will happily go along with any point of view which will be favourably viewed by social media.
The intellectual laziness of the masses is as sad as it is tragic. We have become a nation of unthinking morons which unquestioningly accepts the views of self-anointed “experts” without wondering if their shouted declarations that the end is nigh might just be driven by the urgent need to justify their existence and get their hands on another research grant.
To be a climate denier is to suffer eternal damnation but it is perfectly fine to be a democracy denier as witnessed by the fact that there are large numbers of very noisy people who still can’t accept that Donald Trump is President of the United States and Scott Morrison Prime Minister of Australia.
They weren’t supposed to win. How did this happen? Apparently the Russians rigged the US elections but how Morrison managed to end up in The Lodge remains a mystery. The man’s a Christian, for God’s sake, and doesn’t believe that the world is about to end. Go figure.

Nor do I believe that people who attempt to lie and cheat their way into the country should be allowed to settle here and struggle to understand why people like Minister for Home Affairs Peter Dutton is pilloried for doing what he is paid to do — protect our borders.
My advice to those with bleeding heart tales who wish to live here? Get in the queue.
Admitting that you admire Dutton for his forthrightness is, of course, akin to confessing to devil worship and not something you would dream of doing in the company of strangers lest you be set upon and tarred and feathered.
I also have no time for the United Nations, a multi-billion dollar club which boasts among its members some of the great hypocrites and pontificators of our time and which seethes with corruption.
Australia Day is three months distant so the non-indigenous among us must ready ourselves to be branded as white supremacists celebrating a bloody invasion.
I don’t buy it. Instead of wasting energy moaning about historical wrongs, tackle the alcohol, drug and sexual abuse and poor parenting that denies so many indigenous children a shot at a better life.
This is not a point of view that people publicly express because they know they will be denounced as being racists if they do so. So be it.
Christmas in also coming but don’t mention Jesus or the birth of Christ lest in so doing, you offend someone and that would never do.
I’ll continue to live, then, in my own little offensive, racist, climate denier world but I’ve a feeling that I am not alone. Please feel free to join me.
Mike O’Connor is a columnist for The Courier-Mail.

Such a witty retort ..... pity you couldn't take something from the high lights .....

because in regards to CC that's you.

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #56 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 7:05am

Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

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More extreme than what?

You're full of 'it.

As one recall's the denialist were predicting weather is cooling because one or two below avg cool days, now as we are seeing the weather is warming and in prolonged drought that has created the most extreme bushfires....as the climate scientist were predicting, as they are also predicting rising sea levels...it is not hunky dory with the climate as the denialist are saying...and no doubt with waters lapping at their feet the denialist will still deny cliamte change is happening....CO2 is good for the planet they argue.

Just as E=mc2 its a known since the 18th C than adding more CO2 to the atmosphere will create global warming in the greenhouse effect.

Less than 10 years to just keep warming levels at 2 degs above avg....keep the way its going and it rises to 6 degs....catastrophic.

Just as Energy minister Angus Taylor uses false evidence to discredit Clover Moore over climate change, (conservatives tend to be malicious), the denialist are being malicious with climate change with false and cherry picked data that is designed for the fossil fuel industry to maintain pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere....which is criminal behaviour....they know what they are doing is killing the planet.

The end is nigh

been coming since 1967 in one prediction or another ....

so far zilch....

what's any different now?

People like you would have us going back to the dark ages to rectify the perceived CO2 increases ...

we can do it by ceasing the use of fossil fuels & using renewables ...

yet you can't build one without the other.

Strange ey ......

are you off the grid yet? Got plenty of papermache handy? Roll Eyes

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #57 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 11:23am

Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

As one recall's the denialist were predicting weather is cooling because one or two below avg cool days, now as we are seeing the weather is warming and in prolonged drought that has created the most extreme bushfires..

You mean those climate scientists in the 1970's cooling scare? And that was supposedly caused by ...CO2.

Drought does not create bushfires. Natural events, lightning, creates bushfires. Accidents, grinders, vehicles etc, create bushfires. Arson creates bushfires.

Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

.as the climate scientist were predicting, as they are also predicting rising sea levels..

Sea levels have been rising sunce the LIA at leat and possibly the last ice age. Prety hard not to make that prediction. Wink

Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 6:33am:

Just as E=mc2 its a known since the 18th C than adding more CO2 to the atmosphere will create global warming in the greenhouse effect.

By how much?

You are such a joke.

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Re: mindless hysterics from climate skeptics
Reply #58 - Nov 27^th, 2019 at 5:00pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 27^th, 2019 at 6:53am:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 7:58pm:

The three hysterias of the denialist camp:

The classical/conspiracy hysteria:
It's all a giant conspiracy between the scientific community and the UN, who are trying to take over the world.

The pseudo-intellectual hysteria:
Frost this morning, therefor no global warming.

The libertarian hysteria:
Calling me an idiot infringes on my right to say stupid things.

Does that cover all of them?

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 11:30am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

Who's hysterical?

The people who seek out nonsense on the internet so they can pretend relative hysteria is normal.

Or people who follow a global lunacy like a religion?

You're looking in the mirror aren't you?

Yes Gnads, that is hysterical too - trying to pass off what the global scientific community is up to as lunacy and a religion. Are you ever not hysterically misrepresenting things you don't like?

...meanwhile Lee is so hysterical he cannot remember what he posted the day before. He is now blaming me for this:

lee wrote on Nov 24^th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

Making a perfectly acceptable statement is hardly hysterical. More like historical.

Now can you explain why you described it as historical Lee? Or have you forgotten again?

Of course FD Roll Eyes

.....you're starting to sound like a Feminazi

no matter how you word it it's abuse. Roll Eyes

It's not a majority of opinion ... you close off any argument to the contrary ....not just my opinion ... but scientific opinion.

You are as bad in your reactions as looney lefties are about (your) conservatism.

Accusing others of "hysteria" when hands down the "end is nigh" hysteria is in the court of Climate Change activists .....

and their little poster girl Greta they use to front their agenda.

Get out & "Clean up Australia" & clean up our oceans of plastics ..... instead of trying to support
your misguided belief that the planet will be destroyed in 11 years time if something is not done about CO2 levels.

Never mind that any increase has been minimal and it's a vital part of plant & human survival.

You are being irrational Gnads. None of the accusations you hurl at others detracts from your own mindless hysteria.

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