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Reply #30 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:34pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:29pm:
cods wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:19pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:05pm:
cods wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:03pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 11:52am:
cods wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:57am:
mothra wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:54am:
Quick Gordy! Cods needs you to say mean things about me!



no dear I was waiting for you to mention the dead baby..

but thats not the issue in this topic is it pet... Cry Cry




But do you not see cods, Gordon had no regret for the baby at all.  In the very first post he suggested is that the mother is drug affected, and therefore the baby was defective with no evidence at all. 

This is ALOT worse in my opinion, when Mothra is trying demonstrate his fallacy. 

I personally think your opinion is grossly biased in this case.




I agree to and extent....  I dont think gordy should have brought that up unless he had evidence...I agree   but did it warrant the attack from mothra?.... why couldnt she just ask him for the evidence of drugs.....he admits he put two and two together Mt Druit what else.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes... all I asked was shouldnt he the father be charged with murder?  and not manslaughter.......so far no one including you has given me their opinion on that.....

do you think I should have copped the abuse and lies mothra spit out?

you think they were justified tickle?????..

how about accusing gordon of saying the baby is better off dead....

nowhere does he say that or even suggest it... its all in her mind...


your point is taken  I will remember that in future


Oh Cods, chill, girl.  I think we both have being here long enough to know, that once Mothra and Gordon gets started, there is no stopping.  Best to stay out of it.   Smiley

Anyway, in this case.  It is manslaughter, because, the prosecutors would have trouble establishing intent to kill beyond reasonable doubt.  The plantiff could easily plea for manslaughter, as sort of accidental death with no intent.  UNLESS, of course, the father have documented how he wanted to kill his baby, and estabilish motive (e.g. to hurt mother / to claim insurance), then murder charge wont stand.  Only in very rare circumstances, the jury would convict someone on 'instantaneous' intent to murder. 




  I get that   but is it a fair call   the baby didnt stand a chance....it has no voice..only the court....unless someone was there and these mongrels usually make sure they are alone....my feelings are manslaughter he will get at the most 6 years we have seen it in the past... the child is dead  dig a hole and forget it...

someone has to stand up and say our law are rubbish........if he dropped the baby and it dies I would say yes unintentional.... but shaking till its tiny brain is smashed   no way.


I think I know what you mean.  Perhaps, we should look into increase the scale of penalty of manslaughter, or even establish a new criminal code with adequate penalties.  However, even then, you cant expect the penalty to be that of equivalent to a murder - as the conviction of murder requires a higher standard of evidence, and rightfully so. 





well going from murder to manslaughter to me is a cop out..... maybe a new name for killing babies..helpless children....it happens too often for my liking

whatever the sentence   its based on the lowest one thats gone before....  remember where the mother and boy friend killed the little girl and set fire and buried her in a woods somewhere then they went on tv with the other children telling everyone a stranger had grabbed her.....well he got 6 years...  I he would be out now   with I am almost sure no restrictions on dealing with children....

our laws are sicker in some ways..
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Reply #31 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:41pm
 
cods wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:29pm:
yes I understand that gordy  and you living closer would understand that more than I..

I am getting done for not exploiting that tho... Sad Sad Sad


as we know mothra doesnt tread lightly...

I do like my arms and I do need them


What goes on in Mt Druitt wouldn't be tolerated in a decent area of Sydney but it comes down to triage. Pregnant teenagers who drink smoke and take drugs is just business as usual. Ice use is at epidemic levels. It comes down to a triage situation.

When you hear a child is murdered nobody even blinks when Druitt is mentioned.
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Reply #32 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:48pm
 
Gordon wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:41pm:
cods wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:29pm:
yes I understand that gordy  and you living closer would understand that more than I..

I am getting done for not exploiting that tho... Sad Sad Sad


as we know mothra doesnt tread lightly...

I do like my arms and I do need them


What goes on in Mt Druitt wouldn't be tolerated in a decent area of Sydney but it comes down to triage. Pregnant teenagers who drink smoke and take drugs is just business as usual. Ice use is at epidemic levels. It comes down to a triage situation.

When you hear a child is murdered nobody even blinks when Druitt is mentioned.



dont say that gordy... it means we sit back and let children live  in that ....I dont know if its more aboriginal than white.... I do know its always had a bad name......

its not good to judge... but if this baby lived with drug addicts   then it our fault hes dead.....

we dont seem to want to make a noise about it though do we??? Cry Cry
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Reply #33 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 9:03pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:29am:
Gordon wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:19am:
mothra wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:06am:
Gordon wrote on Dec 17th, 2019 at 5:01pm:
Sorry to say but the kids brain was probably already fried from the mothers ice use in utero.

Ice is a huge problem within the Mt Druitt Aboriginal community.




So this would be the hard bigotry of low expectations then.


No, just the hard reality of how dysfunctional Abos are in places like Druitt.

The father was probably a FAS baby himself so had no chance of raising a child.


There is no suggestion of drugs. You are simply, again, relegating people to worst case scenarios of their demographics.

It's unsurprising. It's how the brain bypasses the logic naturally assumed by the brain to perpetuate bigotry.

It's true. I do believe that even you could be smarter if you weren't such a knee-jerk racist.



Wake up will ya.
If you think the aboriginal community are upstanding citizens who work hard to get ahead then you really need to shut the fkkk up. Go stick your head back in the sand. You have fixed nothing in 20years....NOTHING.



It is time for stolen gen 2.
The children need to be removed....and have that white dogooder virtue signaling bullshyte removed from their heads. Any white c@#t who tries to fill their heads with this yesteryearrubbish is locked up for life.
While Australia let's these white losers create pity on Abos, then they will always feel as if....they're owed...and theyll all try to live the traditional way at white mans expence. You cant have something for nothing in 2019. Any abo under the age of 50 should be no different to any other person in this country.
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Reply #34 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 11:25pm
 
mothra wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:56am:
Oh, and they weren't stats. Even though they had a fancy '%' attached.

No , they werent stats. Like the way you picked that up with your penetrating intellect. Now call me a racist.
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