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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 135378 Gender:	Re: 177 gun deaths Reply #195 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:23am Choose one? It's quite often both.
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11267 Gender:	Re: 177 gun deaths Reply #196 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:31am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:23am: Choose one? It's quite often both. Americans would rather take that chance any day of the week!! Nobody wants to die, but unlike so many people on this here planet, Americans would prefer to go down defending themselves rather than begging for their lives!
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 135378 Gender:	Re: 177 gun deaths Reply #197 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:32am "More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?" More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11267 Gender:	Re: 177 gun deaths Reply #198 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:34am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:32am: "More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?" More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows *Because thousands of Americans prove otherwise each & every day!*
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Reply #199 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:36am

Panther wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:32am:

"More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?"

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

Because thousands of Americans prove otherwise each & every day!

Incorrect.

"The claim that gun ownership stops crime is common in the U.S., and that belief drives laws that make it easy to own and keep firearms.

"But about 30 careful studies show more guns are linked to more crimes: murders, rapes, and others. Far less research shows that guns help."

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

They believe otherwise.

The evidence proves them wrong.

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Reply #200 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:43am

"Most of this research—and there have been several dozen peer-reviewed studies—punctures the idea that guns stop violence.

"In a 2015 study using data from the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for example, researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University reported that firearm assaults were 6.8 times more common in the states with the most guns versus those with the least.

"Also in 2015 a combined analysis of 15 different studies found that people who had access to firearms at home were nearly twice as likely to be murdered as people who did not."

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Reply #201 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:45am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:36am:

Panther wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:32am:

"More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?"

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

Because thousands of Americans prove otherwise each & every day!

Incorrect.

"The claim that gun ownership stops crime is common in the U.S., and that belief drives laws that make it easy to own and keep firearms.

"But about 30 careful studies show more guns are linked to more crimes: murders, rapes, and others. Far less research shows that guns help."

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

They believe otherwise.

The evidence proves them wrong.

Americans prove otherwise thousands of times each & every day....to themselves, their friends, & their community.

The opinions you choose to believe, you believe.............Americans don't mind one bit.....It's what they believe that counts......it's their Right....It's their Second Amendment......It's their Country......

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Reply #202 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:48am

Panther wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:36am:

Panther wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:34am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:32am:

"More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?"

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

Because thousands of Americans prove otherwise each & every day!

Incorrect.

"The claim that gun ownership stops crime is common in the U.S., and that belief drives laws that make it easy to own and keep firearms.

"But about 30 careful studies show more guns are linked to more crimes: murders, rapes, and others. Far less research shows that guns help."

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

They believe otherwise.

The evidence proves them wrong.

Americans prove it thousands of times each & every day....to themselves, their friends, & their community.

No, they don't prove it - they merely believe it.

The evidence proves that more guns do not stop more crimes.

This isn't an opinion - it's an undeniable fact.

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Reply #203 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:51am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 8:09am:

The number is now 1,444

1,444 deaths by gun in the US so far this year.

1,444 in 14 days.

Sure, but how many stabbings? Poisonings? Satanic child killings?

We could say guns are more humane, Greggery.

Anyway, knives, poison and black magic aren't listed in the constitution, just guns.

As our resident constitutional expert says, it would be unconstitutional to impose any restrictions or regulations on them.

You're free to shoot anyone you want, as long as they draw first, look at you funny, or they're suspect (tinted).

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Reply #204 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:52am

More Guns = Less Crime

Scream from the 'hilltops' 'till yer blue in the face Pecca..... (Australia don't have 'real' mountains )

Americans prove thousands of times each & every day that being armed makes them safer....to themselves, their friends, & their community.

The opinions you choose to believe, you believe.............Americans don't mind one bit.....It's what they believe that counts....it's their Right....It's their Second Amendment...It's our Country...but yer always welcome to visit, & Americans won't even force you to carry a loaded firearm neither

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Reply #205 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:57am

Panther wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 10:52am:

Scream from the 'hilltops' 'till yer blue in the face Pecca..... (Australia don't have 'real' mountains

Americans prove otherwise thousands of times each & every day....to themselves, their friends, & their community.

The opinions you choose to believe, you believe.............Americans don't mind one bit.....It's what they believe that [u]countsit's their Right....It's their Second Amendment......It's our Country......but yer always welcome to visit, & Americans won't even force you to carry a loaded firearm neither http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gif

No.

They don't prove it, they just believe it.

It's faith, like some crazy religion.

It's an undeniable fact that more guns do not stop more crimes.

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Reply #206 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 11:02am

More Guns = Less Crime

Like I said before.....Scream from the 'hilltops' 'till yer blue in the face Pecca..... (JFYI ..... Australia don't have 'real' mountains )

Americans prove thousands of times each & every day that being armed makes them safer....prove it to themselves, their friends, & their community.

The opinions you choose to believe, you believe.............Americans don't mind one bit.....It's what they believe that counts....it's their Right....It's their Second Amendment............It's our Country.............but it still goes, yer always welcome ta visit, & Americans won't even force you to carry a loaded firearm neither...........so don't fret none lil fella.

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94452 Gender:	Re: 177 gun deaths Reply #207 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 11:09am I'm curious, Panther. Do guns stop suicide?
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Reply #208 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 11:11am

Panther wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 11:02am:

More Guns = Less Crime

Like I said before.....Scream from the 'hilltops' 'till yer blue in the face Pecca..... (JFYI ..... Australia don't have 'real' mountains http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gif)

Americans prove thousands of times each & every day that being armed makes them safer....prove it to themselves, their friends, & their community.

The opinions you choose to believe, you believe.............Americans don't mind one bit.....It's what they believe that counts....it's their Right....It's their Second Amendment............It's our Country.............but it still goes, yer always welcome ta visit, & Americans won't even force you to carry a loaded firearm neither...........so don't fret none lil fella. http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gif

No.

They don't prove it, they just believe it.

It's faith, like some crazy religion.

It's an undeniable fact that more guns do not stop more crimes.

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows

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Reply #209 - Jan 15^th, 2020 at 11:20am

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 15^th, 2020 at 11:09am:

I'm curious, Panther. Do guns stop suicide?

Not likely......but if faced with being shot by another's hand, it might just cause them a prolonged pause, & prevent the suicide.......but that's a longshot.....so ta speak

Suicides by gun have the Right to choose their departure time, & their method of transportation Karnal.....if anything is unknown it's their point of arrival.

I'm curious........Can you show me one successful suicide that isn't 100% satisfied with his/her/its choice?

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