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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #30 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:45pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:23pm:

Another problem that will emerge after these fires is the amount of water that has been used to fight the fires and the amount of water that will be contaminated from ash and dead animals....This disaster is just beginning to unfold and the consequences yet to really understood....I fear we have left this action far too late to make a difference!!!

Huh

That's correct, the authorities and parliaments should have been co-operating and doing much more decades ago, but for some reason they've let brainfade take over, even after the worst of our past fires. They'd rather dig rabbit warrens under Sydney and lay extra rail lines in Melbourne. Doing nothing for the bush, how useless is the National party, utterly useless

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #31 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:46pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:27pm:

Take your partisan pants off for 2 mins. What's happening now is unprecedented and regardless of who is PM it would play out the same. Scomo is just screwing up the PR side of things.

scomo was warned this was coming months ago .. he ignored the warning and did nothing to help prevent it, in fact hr made things worse by cutting funding by 35% for NSW alone. I haven't checked the other stated but you can bet he cut funding everywhere else too. Take your partisan pants of and allocate blame where it is deserved instead of trying to blame the greens

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #32 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #33 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:31pm:

it cant be fixed till we get the upper hand.... tell me Bri what would you do right at this moment in time?...

we hear all the arguments but no solutions....

I have suggested a few things in other thread but get howled down or called a dickhead..or words to that affect......

What would I do, if I was Scotty from Marketing?

I'd declare a national emergency. I would form an equivalent to a war cabinet and I would invite the Leader of the Opposition to serve as deputy PM for the duration of the emergency.

I would bring the ADF in. I would bring from overseas the help which had been refused at the start of the Bushfires from France and the US. I would organise a national response to the problem of the bushfires.

I would prepare the ADF to fight bushfires. I'd provide them with training in how to do it and equipment to do it with. Time the ADF earnt their pay.

I would call upon the Australian people to support the bush fire fighters.

I would organise the states to conduct regular burnoffs to reduce the fuel load. I would employ Indigenous Australian firestick methods to do it with .

Once it was all over and done with, I'd then organise victory parades and then I'd keep my mouth shut and tell all my ministers to keep their mouths shut about what they had done. If Scotty, from Marketing likes to get votes out of this, I'd recommend he leaves it to the Australian electorate to reward or punish him.

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #34 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

They'll be handling out water bottles and meat pies.

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #35 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:00pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

They'll be handling out water bottles and meat pies.

The Army doesn't have firetrucks or do they?
Do they have PPE - safety gear?
Are they trained to fight fires?

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #36 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:02pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

They'll be handling out water bottles and meat pies.

some one has to do it and yep gordy even volunteers get tired......I know a crying shame

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #37 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:00pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

They'll be handling out water bottles and meat pies.

The Army doesn't have firetrucks or do they?
Do they have PPE - safety gear?
Are they trained to fight fires?

NO THEY DONT bobby I have already asked why are they not trained in fighting fires after all we are well known for bushfires..

but I got howled down....soppy idea...they are there to fight WARS not fires even when they are not at WAR... Roll Eyes

makes sense to some...

this is an emergency its gone ballistic...but all most on here do is look for someone to blame... pathetic.

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #38 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:00pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

They'll be handling out water bottles and meat pies.

The Army doesn't have firetrucks or do they?
Do they have PPE - safety gear?
Are they trained to fight fires?

You are a farquit!

Even dopey Morriscum isnt suggesting they will be fighting fires!

Where did you get that idea idiot?

Look up logistic support etc dopey!

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You really are stupid!!

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #39 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:00pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

They'll be handling out water bottles and meat pies.

The Army doesn't have firetrucks or do they?
Do they have PPE - safety gear?
Are they trained to fight fires?

Most of the Garrison Support functions like cooking, cleaning and support functions like fire fighting on bases were contracted out to SERCO or TransField years ago. Navy used to have it's own firefighter branch and all the equipment that went with it. Now, they call the local firebrigade if there is a serious fire on a base that the duty watch can't handle. I have been at Army and RAAF bases over the years where it is the same. They have a small self defence against fire, but everything else is contracted out. RAN do haver firefighter theory and practical training for firefighting that has to requalified for evry few years but it is really only for shipboard use and in the main not a transferable skill for fires the size we are seeing at the moment

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #41 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:21pm

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/two-people-have-died-in-the-catastrophic-...

Acclaimed Australian bush pilot Dick Lang, and his son Clayton, have been killed in the catastrophic bushfire that scorched more than 150,000 hectares on Kangaroo Island.

The Advertiser has been told prominent Adelaide tourism operator Dick, and his son died in the inferno.

SA Police Deputy Commissioner Linda Williams confirmed two deaths during a media conference in Adelaide on Saturday morning.

“Regrettably, we can confirm that two people are deceased in the fire,” Ms Williams said.

A CFS crew discovered the body of one person in a burnt-out car on the Playford Highway at Gosse, and a second body was also found nearby.

“I don’t want to make assumptions but I would say it’s linked to a vehicle that was discovered near Parndana.”

Premier Steven Marshall described the deaths as a tragedy.

“Our hearts go out to the family of those affected,” he said.

Mr Marshall said the fire had destroyed the majority of the Flinders Chase National Park in the southwest of the island — Australia’s third-largest.

“The fires that occurred (on Friday) were significantly worse than in 2007 in Flinders Chase because it took out all of the building infrastructure within this national park,” he said.

so cruel....

did we not place koala bears on Kangaroo Island a few years back... the whole island is in danger

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #42 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:25pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:16pm:

The same people complaining about Scummo receiving criticism for his inept handling of the bush fires are the same ass holes who have no problem blaming the Greens....Pathetic???

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a need to blame a need to say I could do Better...

yet when push comes to shove they PANIC>.

shops emptied garages closed due to greedy....we need to have rationing at times like this....instead we run around like chooks with no heads....my daughter who I depend on very much is having PANIC attacks..due to the stress running around trying to buy bottled water....and this just in case we get the fire... Sad

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Reply #43 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:26pm

Vic wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:00pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

They'll be handling out water bottles and meat pies.

The Army doesn't have firetrucks or do they?
Do they have PPE - safety gear?
Are they trained to fight fires?

Most of the Garrison Support functions like cooking, cleaning and support functions like fire fighting on bases were contracted out to SERCO or TransField years ago. Navy used to have it's own firefighter branch and all the equipment that went with it. Now, they call the local firebrigade if there is a serious fire on a base that the duty watch can't handle. I have been at Army and RAAF bases over the years where it is the same. They have a small self defence against fire, but everything else is contracted out. RAN do haver firefighter theory and practical training for firefighting that has to requalified for evry few years but it is really only for shipboard use and in the main not a transferable skill for fires the size we are seeing at the moment

Thanks Vic,
does that mean that I'm right and that Redmond- above -
owes me an apology for all that abuse?

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Re: Army called in to fight fires
Reply #44 - Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:26pm:

Vic wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:00pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

3000 reservists called up, the first time in such numbers to fight fires.

Also of interest, Linda Reynolds says over 2000 reservists and regulars have been in the field for about two months.

Up to 3000 Army reservists will be called out and the HMAS Adelaide will also be deployed to assist in Australia’s bushfire crisis – which has seen more than 1500 homes destroyed and at least 23 confirmed deaths – as Scott Morrison ramps up the goverment’s response.

The government will also lease an extra four water bombers at a cost of $20m to help the seven large planes already available for firefighting efforts. Two water bombers are due to arrive in a week and two will arrive in a fortnight but it is not clear which countries they are coming from.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bushfire-emergency-nsw-victoria-brace-fo...

It said on the news that 3,000 reservists have been called up
and it's compulsory.
Surely they are not going to send in untrained men towards deadly fires - against their will?

This could cause huge losses - deaths.

They'll be handling out water bottles and meat pies.

The Army doesn't have firetrucks or do they?
Do they have PPE - safety gear?
Are they trained to fight fires?

Most of the Garrison Support functions like cooking, cleaning and support functions like fire fighting on bases were contracted out to SERCO or TransField years ago. Navy used to have it's own firefighter branch and all the equipment that went with it. Now, they call the local firebrigade if there is a serious fire on a base that the duty watch can't handle. I have been at Army and RAAF bases over the years where it is the same. They have a small self defence against fire, but everything else is contracted out. RAN do haver firefighter theory and practical training for firefighting that has to requalified for evry few years but it is really only for shipboard use and in the main not a transferable skill for fires the size we are seeing at the moment

Thanks Vic,
does that mean that I'm right and that Redmond- above -
owes me an apology for all that abuse?

It was a long time ago but my platoon was sent to fight a fire close to Holsworthy camp and all we were given was shovels, no water or anything. Lucky for us, the fire had just about burnt out by the time we got there

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