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Are you on a watch list?
Jan 12th, 2020 at 5:14pm
 
This had to go in Fringe as there is little evidence.

SadKangaroo made this post at Monk's dump:


Sadkangaroo,
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It's a site on the Internet, sometimes things happen.

If you want to pretend it's all a conspiracy may I suggest you post that in the Fringe lol.

That said, I have been contacted many years ago by someone claiming to be from the Executive Council Australian Jewry because I'd had some "conflicts" with It_Is_The_Light.

He, as well as all of OzPol, are on their radar for the Antisemitism that's posted there. They were, I don't know if they still do, keeping records of everything. They had contacted me because they wanted my help to do the same.

For Light, many of his conspiracies about Hitler being a secret Jew or the Jews controlling everything has him being monitored.

But I'm not interested, that's their battle, but it made me reach out and see what other groups might be watching.

All I will say is, when you post on OzPol, you are being watched.

I'm not in the business of doxing people, in fact, I think the practice is dangerous. But, there are some on OzPol, some who I know are certainly on these lists, that it's trivially easy to discover their identity, phone and address. If I can do it, so can they. I'm not going to go into who or how but just keep in mind that you're not as anonymous as you might think there, or even here.

I don't think FD or those who run here would do anything, but should he actually be shut down or real investigations launched due to these groups keeping records of the bigotry, racism and white supremacy that goes on as the norm at OzPol because of their complaints to law enforcement, as a butt saving exercise or as ordered by the courts, IPs and other information could be handed over.

I've worked for ISPs in the past,we've had to keep EVERYTHING, even before the mandatory data retention laws, and now it's even worse. VPNs can help, but I doubt most use them, and they're not fool proof.

Just some food for thought.





There may be some truth to all this:

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/posting-about-politicians-the-nsw-...

Posting About Politicians? The NSW Police Force May Have You In Their Sights

10/01/2020 by Paul Gregoire

A Blue Mountains man was arrested in August last year, over allegations that he’d been harassing the local mayor and a NSW Labor MLC. The 37-year-old was charged with a number of offences, including stalking or intimidation with intent to cause fear of physical or mental harm and using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence.

The charges related to claims the man had been making false allegations about sexual assault and child abuse. And this decade-long intimidation campaign was carried out via email, social media, text and phone messages.

And he said it would target “lone actors”, who are obsessed with public figures, as well as ideologies or beliefs.

Of course, as yet, no one has turned up to parliament with a bill that puts thoughtcrimes on the law books. However, proactively locating individuals before they perpetrate any criminal acts certainly sounds a lot like Orwell’s dystopian vision.
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Reply #1 - Jan 12th, 2020 at 5:34pm
 
I am sure we know certain posters that fit this description:

"And he said it would target “lone actors”,
who are obsessed with public figures, as well as ideologies or beliefs."
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Reply #2 - Jan 12th, 2020 at 7:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 5:34pm:
I am sure we know certain posters that fit this description:

"And he said it would target “lone actors”,
who are obsessed with public figures, as well as ideologies or beliefs."




Greggy is obsessed with Donald Trump -
almost every thread gets turned into that topic by him. Grin
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Reply #3 - Jan 12th, 2020 at 7:55pm
 

Booby made this list.

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Reply #4 - Jan 12th, 2020 at 7:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 7:55pm:
Booby made urlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gay,_lesbian_or_bisexual_people][/url].




That's uncalled for Greggy.
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Reply #5 - Jan 12th, 2020 at 8:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 7:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 7:55pm:
Booby made urlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gay,_lesbian_or_bisexual_people][/url].




That's uncalled for Greggy.


They all called for you to be on the list, Booby.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Reply #6 - Jan 12th, 2020 at 8:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 8:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 7:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 7:55pm:
Booby made urlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gay,_lesbian_or_bisexual_people][/url].




That's uncalled for Greggy.


They all called for you to be on the list, Bobby.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.




Greggy,
You've got nothing so you make up a story.

Are you obsessed with a public figure?

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Reply #7 - Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:15am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 5:14pm:
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/posting-about-politicians-the-nsw-...

Posting About Politicians? The NSW Police Force May Have You In Their Sights

10/01/2020 by Paul Gregoire

A Blue Mountains man was arrested in August last year, over allegations that he’d been harassing the local mayor and a NSW Labor MLC. The 37-year-old was charged with a number of offences, including stalking or intimidation with intent to cause fear of physical or mental harm and using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence.

The charges related to claims the man had been making false allegations about sexual assault and child abuse. And this decade-long intimidation campaign was carried out via email, social media, text and phone messages.

And he said it would target “lone actors”, who are obsessed with public figures, as well as ideologies or beliefs.

Of course, as yet, no one has turned up to parliament with a bill that puts thoughtcrimes on the law books. However, proactively locating individuals before they perpetrate any criminal acts certainly sounds a lot like Orwell’s dystopian vision.


This is usually the position of right-wingers, standing up for "free speech" when they're being racist or bigots, but I'm sure you've seen the same people calling for the "greenies who were shipped in to yell at the Prime Minister when he was touring bushfire affected regions" to be jailed?  So much for free speech...

Same goes for most of the concern about these "thought crimes".

Anyway, some of this information is online, about those being watched, but most aren't.  I googled some prominent groups, contacted them expressing concern about certain website which started a back and forth and I was able to get a few of those staff to reveal that they are "aware" and "watching" sites like OzPol.

Most of them these days are focused on Twitter on social media, but I'd still heed the warning.

I looked them up after they contacted me and found this.

Link

Makes you wonder if this place is a honey pot to catch people since rarely does this sort of thing get removed... #fringe

I didn't want to bring this up during the poll for Mod, but it was after researching these people that I found instances of Light posting children's penises on here, albeit in the context of circumcision and the Jewish practice but still. 

He made it clear that context doesn't matter when attacking everyone else.

Makes you wonder why he cared so much about a cartoon of cartman and aliens if he'll post that...
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Reply #8 - Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:33am
 
Antisemitism is a nasty one. You can be accused of it for the most benign things. They (the radicals that accuse) are very thin skinned and overly hostile. I got banned from an ATHEIST fb group for saying the jewish god is just as imaginary as the rest of them.

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Reply #9 - Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:44am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:33am:
Antisemitism is a nasty one. You can be accused of it for the most benign things. They (the radicals that accuse) are very thin skinned and overly hostile. I got banned from an ATHEIST fb group for saying the jewish god is just as imaginary as the rest of them.

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imagine what would have happened had you said the same thing about Mohammed.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

it doesnt bare thinking about. Wink
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KangAnon wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:15am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 5:14pm:
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/posting-about-politicians-the-nsw-...

Posting About Politicians? The NSW Police Force May Have You In Their Sights

10/01/2020 by Paul Gregoire

A Blue Mountains man was arrested in August last year, over allegations that he’d been harassing the local mayor and a NSW Labor MLC. The 37-year-old was charged with a number of offences, including stalking or intimidation with intent to cause fear of physical or mental harm and using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence.

The charges related to claims the man had been making false allegations about sexual assault and child abuse. And this decade-long intimidation campaign was carried out via email, social media, text and phone messages.

And he said it would target “lone actors”, who are obsessed with public figures, as well as ideologies or beliefs.

Of course, as yet, no one has turned up to parliament with a bill that puts thoughtcrimes on the law books. However, proactively locating individuals before they perpetrate any criminal acts certainly sounds a lot like Orwell’s dystopian vision.


This is usually the position of right-wingers, standing up for "free speech" when they're being racist or bigots, but I'm sure you've seen the same people calling for the "greenies who were shipped in to yell at the Prime Minister when he was touring bushfire affected regions" to be jailed?  So much for free speech...

Same goes for most of the concern about these "thought crimes".

Anyway, some of this information is online, about those being watched, but most aren't.  I googled some prominent groups, contacted them expressing concern about certain website which started a back and forth and I was able to get a few of those staff to reveal that they are "aware" and "watching" sites like OzPol.

Most of them these days are focused on Twitter on social media, but I'd still heed the warning.

I looked them up after they contacted me and found this.

Link

Makes you wonder if this place is a honey pot to catch people since rarely does this sort of thing get removed... #fringe

I didn't want to bring this up during the poll for Mod, but it was after researching these people that I found instances of Light posting children's penises on here, albeit in the context of circumcision and the Jewish practice but still. 

He made it clear that context doesn't matter when attacking everyone else.

Makes you wonder why he cared so much about a cartoon of cartman and aliens if he'll post that...




I think you draw a long bow sad... like we all do from time to time....mainly when we want support for our argument..... if we shut down FOS...simply because we dont happen to get on with a person.....is not democracy.. when you become a mod    you have your own little empire....it can become very quickly a dictatorship...

we have so many rules now    and its taking our self responsibility away from us.......behavior is becoming worse because we think someone else is monitoring us........being banned is like being find.. its a tsk tsk moment..
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Reply #11 - Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:58am
 
cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:44am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:33am:
Antisemitism is a nasty one. You can be accused of it for the most benign things. They (the radicals that accuse) are very thin skinned and overly hostile. I got banned from an ATHEIST fb group for saying the jewish god is just as imaginary as the rest of them.

Spot



imagine what would have happened had you said the same thing about Mohammed.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

it doesnt bare thinking about. Wink


What would happen? It was an ATHEIST group.

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Reply #12 - Jan 13th, 2020 at 7:02am
 
SadKangaroo has provided a link
with 172 pages.
I guess I'll have to take your word on it.
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Reply #13 - Jan 13th, 2020 at 7:08am
 
cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:44am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:33am:
Antisemitism is a nasty one. You can be accused of it for the most benign things. They (the radicals that accuse) are very thin skinned and overly hostile. I got banned from an ATHEIST fb group for saying the jewish god is just as imaginary as the rest of them.

Spot



imagine what would have happened had you said the same thing about Mohammed.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

it doesnt bare thinking about. Wink



What, like what happens all over the world, all day, every day?

FD got a fatwa on him has he?
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Reply #14 - Jan 13th, 2020 at 7:15am
 
mothra wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 7:08am:
cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:44am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 6:33am:
Antisemitism is a nasty one. You can be accused of it for the most benign things. They (the radicals that accuse) are very thin skinned and overly hostile. I got banned from an ATHEIST fb group for saying the jewish god is just as imaginary as the rest of them.

Spot



imagine what would have happened had you said the same thing about Mohammed.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

it doesnt bare thinking about. Wink



What, like what happens all over the world, all day, every day?

FD got a fatwa on him has he?


Religion of peace?


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