Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:


Interesting interview.
He is an exiled Chinese billionaire named Guo Weyui.
His mission is to speak out against corruption in China.
He says
"The data is fake. There are more than 50,000 dead"

Also interesting he states
"This was not from animal to person, this was from people behind that".

I looked up about Wuhan Lab and it is the largest live virus collection centre in Asia, carrying 1,400 types of virus and 60,000 strains.

Those Chinese people are in fear, on one side is the virus, on the other side is the officials/government.
The crematorium can't keep up and work double shifts with very little rest.

The truth is slowly emerging, thanks to those that risked their lives speaking out against the government.
Dissidents...or heroes? I think the latter.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 5:31pm:




oh hello bri...

I use my commonsense dear!

why would the govt try to contain the news

if it wasnt BAD.???

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2020 at 6:23am:


The problem is a claim like that, especially with such an important issue, it requires evidence.

Don't fall into the trap of "I don't know what this UFO is, therefore it must be aliens!".

It could be true that they are, but until we know for sure we have to assume that they aren't, but as Governments, they must prepare for the worst.

That said, we've even seen the US, or at least the Trump administration lie about the death count of hurricanes etc and if they'll do it anyone could be...

At least we have evidence for that though.

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:57am:


So the policy should be to spread it?

Send it further afield & it should get all tuckered out & disappear ey?

You're mad as a meat ant.

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2020 at 7:20am:


Perhaps I've misjudged your intellect.

I'll try to dumb it down.  The tldr is that while there is no evidence yet to suggest what you're saying is true, if the United States of America can lie about Hurricane victims, it's plausible that China may be lying about the death toll of the virus.

But unlike the USA, there is no evidence to suggest China is lying, yet.

If evidence exists it will likley come to light, but it's too dangerous to suggest they "are" lying, especially without evidence when it paints the virus as more deadly than it is and puts a bigger bullseye on the back of anyone who looks Chinese, or even as if they're from south-east Asia, especially with the ignorant racists we have to share our country with.

If you watch the Media Watch video, people are doing that all the time and it's spreading blatantly false information, just as "that looks like they're digging mass graves not building a hospital" etc.

No point in adding to the hysteria.

You are entitled to your opinion after all, but to suggest something "is" happening when you have no evidence to support it, especially in this time of fake news, you can expect people will speak up.

Gnads wrote on Feb 14^th, 2020 at 7:28am:


No, the policy should be to target the source and limit the spread.

Targeting all Asians isn't targeting the virus.

That's the point, that's the problem with your claim.

It's not targeting where the person has come from, it's not taking into account their Australian Citizenship or Resident status, it's targeting their ethnicity which would have to be derived in large part to what they look like.

Unless you still think Asian only equals Chinese? 

It's over 60% of the entire worlds population.



And if a white person has come from China, or one of the Cruise Ships that has been quarantined, they're not going to be stopped.

If you want to target the virus, target the sources of transmission and don't let those people, citizens, residents or tourists who may have come into contact with the virus enter the country by normal means and undergo a quarantine period before they can reenter with follow-ups after they have.  Arm these people with the information they need to help them be responsible and reduce their contact with people even after they've left quarantine.

Restricting all "Asians" from entering the country won't do any of that.  The virus is just being used as an excuse for racist backward dickheads to vocalise their deeply held prejudices and then accuse anyone who calls them out of wanting to spread the virus.

Be smart...

But let's say, since we know you're not, what you mean is, you want to limit Chinese from entering Australia.  You're getting closer to something that's smart but that's still way off.

Limiting travel from China, no matter who it is, not just the "Asians", now we're getting somewhere.  Until they can demonstrate that that they have the situation under control, travel from mainland China and anyone who has been there since the outbreak, or at least within the last 2 weeks, that's actually a good plan, BUT, it needs provisions so Australian residents and citizens can come home via private flights and enter quarantine.

Do you see how this is all very different from:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 8:25am:


Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 10:05am:


One is a practical solution that addresses the complexities of reality, the other is mouth breathing right-wing nuttery fuelling and feeding off the prejudices of others that is simply racist.

cont. Political implications of that have manifested in Australia by new Chinese politicians & businessmen & students who are supporters/fronts for the Chinese govt ...... remember?

And Chinese Australian leaders, Associations & migrants have spoken about how China believes all Chinese belong to China no matter where they live & still try exert authority over them.

You should have a look at it outside your biased lefty view & playing the racism card.

Gnads wrote on Feb 14^th, 2020 at 7:36am:


Nor can most right-wing websites which make unsubstantiated claims, Gnads which you appear to believe all too willing.