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Reply #1710 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 3:25pm
 
Bio nano immune responses or something. It creates little  virus code- hackers which is right up China's street.  Probably they'll make some to crawl through your hard drive virus.
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Reply #1711 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 3:26pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:46am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:36am:
Carl D wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:21am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:08am:


60 Minutes is broadcasting the gospel truth
.
Be an ostrich if you want.



Lol    Grin

Funny guy.


lol... yep, I was in agreement with nearly everything Bobby posted up until that one.

Please tell us you're just pulling our legs? Grin


He must be.

No intelligent person takes shows like 60 Minutes, ACA, Sunrise, etc. seriously.

Bobby's just having a little morning troll.




So where are you getting your news from groggary ?? The shoe-shine boy ?? No wonder you are one month behind the rest of us  Cheesy LOL


From reliable news sources, government agencies, and heath organisations.

Not sensationalist TV shows aimed at entertaining and/or scaring people and improving their ratings rather than informing people.

60 Minutes is sensationalist garbage.  Nothing more.




Yeh the WHO is a really good soiurce of impartial information when it is underwritten by US interests Cheesy LOL
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #1712 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 3:33pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 2:52pm:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 1:08pm:
Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 11:52am:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 6:33am:
Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 12:05am:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 10:21pm:
The more confirmed cases, the lower the death rate is getting.


Doesn't look so good when you look at closed cases, recovered/dead.

CLOSED CASES
64,583
Cases which had an outcome:
60,922 (94%)
Recovered / Discharged

3,661 (6%)
Deaths


Exactly, but it's misleading, as all the experts have warned because those numbers are only of confirmed cases, not of overall cases.

Even if you take Bobby's latest "we're doomed" info he got from 60 minutes (which is great because if you thought it was hard enough getting food and toilet paper now...) it's still only a global death rate of 0.5% to 0.9%, depending if you take 100 to 60% infection.

It's still a huge number, but when you're talking 6%, that's a difference of 400+ million people.

Did anyone else catch the 60 minutes segment?

I haven't seen it, but from what I've ready, he's taken "Could be as high as 45 million people" to be "45 million dead minimum, we're all doomed!"...

Does anyone know what they actually reported?

I guess it doesn't really matter because if he interpreted it like that, the tards who fight over toilet paper would have too, or worse.

The longer this goes on the more of a barometer of stupid he turned out to be Sad


There are many more confirmed cases, twice as many, but these are cases that have gone from beginning to end, they are completed cases. We will only know the true outcome when all cases are completed cases. Completed cases, I believe, give the truest prediction of the outcome if things continue as they have. Still not panicking though, no point, it won't change anything.



Yes and no.  There is evidence of vast number of confirmed cases having little to no symptoms, presenting like a mild cold.  This means that many people are not even seeking medical attention and are going undiagnosed and recover without issue, to them.  They may very well infect others.

But they aren't being counted.  This means that it throws off the ratio of cases vs deaths and make it look like the frequency of deaths is much higher vs infections than it truly is.

This is why medical experts are warning against firstly following the daily numbers, and secondly rely on the death rate as it is not real-world accurate.

Our leaders and medical infrastructures should be taking the worst possible prediction into account to help to work towards dealing with it, but us on the ground, we shouldn't be.

Having people post misleading claims like 45 Million will be dead, minimum, and "we're all doomed", that's just dangerous stupidity and they should be ashamed.



I cant believe your serious...I live alone like so many and I am retired  if I get sick with flu like symptoms I will go to bed until I feel better    from previous experience the doctor can do nothing anyway...

only hypochondriacs rush to doctors with flu symptoms....

and you want our fragile health resources which are always stretched to be used for people who show signs of having a cold....omg..

mate you are getting worse......please stay home where you would at least be as safe as anyone.....

get everything delivered.. its the only way to keep safe...

me I went to a place that was jumping this morning full of people enjoying Canberra Day    not one mask in sight...NOT ONE>..

we cant help you folks who want to believe everything thats bad......me I prefer to believe the best ....and we are certainly in the best country to weather this storm...

come on sad you can do better than this.


He's not saying what you think he's saying, cods. He's saying Govt and the health services should be looking at worst case scenarios to be prepared for whatever happens, every day citizens shouldn't, they can't do much except take sensible precautions. That is not telling people to rush to the doctor.
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Re: Corona virus
Reply #1713 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 3:56pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 3:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:46am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:36am:
Carl D wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:34am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:21am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 10:08am:


60 Minutes is broadcasting the gospel truth
.
Be an ostrich if you want.



Lol    Grin

Funny guy.


lol... yep, I was in agreement with nearly everything Bobby posted up until that one.

Please tell us you're just pulling our legs? Grin


He must be.

No intelligent person takes shows like 60 Minutes, ACA, Sunrise, etc. seriously.

Bobby's just having a little morning troll.




So where are you getting your news from groggary ?? The shoe-shine boy ?? No wonder you are one month behind the rest of us  Cheesy LOL


From reliable news sources, government agencies, and heath organisations.

Not sensationalist TV shows aimed at entertaining and/or scaring people and improving their ratings rather than informing people.

60 Minutes is sensationalist garbage.  Nothing more.




Yeh the WHO is a really good soiurce of information when it is underwritten by US dollars Cheesy LOL


Explain to me how 60 Minutes is a good source of information.

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Reply #1714 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:00pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 3:56pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 3:26pm:
Yeh the WHO is a really good soiurce of information when it is underwritten by US dollars Cheesy LOL


Explain to me how 60 Minutes is a good source of information.



The WHO outsourced their media department to them when Trump cut their funding? Undecided
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Reply #1715 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:01pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 7:26am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 7:18am:
Sophia wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 3:42pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 3:17pm:
Now the army has it. I wonder if China will invade while the army has the flu?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/two-australian-defence-force-members-tes...


Our defence force! What a virus can do to our defence force.

As Chris Martensen says, we have ...

Case.
Case.
Case.
Cluster.
Cluster...
Boom!

Remember Oz had 25 cases for a while, no change, like a calm before a storm..... suddenly, we have 78.
It’s tripled in a short amount of time.




That's because they haven't tightened up our borders enough ...... and people are flying in & out from all over the globe & are not being screened ...... or quarantined.



One thing is for sure -
air travel was the cause of this virus spreading
all around the world so quickly.


Actually, you're right, Bobby.  Perhaps we should stop all air travel and go back to ships?  Ships take appreciably longer tine to reach their destinations.  More than long enough to avoid such nasties.   Wink
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Reply #1716 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 7:26am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 7:18am:
Sophia wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 3:42pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 3:17pm:
Now the army has it. I wonder if China will invade while the army has the flu?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/two-australian-defence-force-members-tes...


Our defence force! What a virus can do to our defence force.

As Chris Martensen says, we have ...

Case.
Case.
Case.
Cluster.
Cluster...
Boom!

Remember Oz had 25 cases for a while, no change, like a calm before a storm..... suddenly, we have 78.
It’s tripled in a short amount of time.




That's because they haven't tightened up our borders enough ...... and people are flying in & out from all over the globe & are not being screened ...... or quarantined.



One thing is for sure -
air travel was the cause of this virus spreading
all around the world so quickly.


Actually, you're right, Bobby.  Perhaps we should stop all air travel and go back to ships?  Ships take appreciably longer tine to reach their destinations.  More than long enough to avoid such nasties.   Wink


Not really, the 1918 flu was brought here by sea.
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Reply #1717 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:09pm
 
Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 3:33pm:
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 2:52pm:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 1:08pm:
Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 11:52am:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 6:33am:
Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 12:05am:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 10:21pm:
The more confirmed cases, the lower the death rate is getting.


Doesn't look so good when you look at closed cases, recovered/dead.

CLOSED CASES
64,583
Cases which had an outcome:
60,922 (94%)
Recovered / Discharged

3,661 (6%)
Deaths


Exactly, but it's misleading, as all the experts have warned because those numbers are only of confirmed cases, not of overall cases.

Even if you take Bobby's latest "we're doomed" info he got from 60 minutes (which is great because if you thought it was hard enough getting food and toilet paper now...) it's still only a global death rate of 0.5% to 0.9%, depending if you take 100 to 60% infection.

It's still a huge number, but when you're talking 6%, that's a difference of 400+ million people.

Did anyone else catch the 60 minutes segment?

I haven't seen it, but from what I've ready, he's taken "Could be as high as 45 million people" to be "45 million dead minimum, we're all doomed!"...

Does anyone know what they actually reported?

I guess it doesn't really matter because if he interpreted it like that, the tards who fight over toilet paper would have too, or worse.

The longer this goes on the more of a barometer of stupid he turned out to be Sad


There are many more confirmed cases, twice as many, but these are cases that have gone from beginning to end, they are completed cases. We will only know the true outcome when all cases are completed cases. Completed cases, I believe, give the truest prediction of the outcome if things continue as they have. Still not panicking though, no point, it won't change anything.



Yes and no.  There is evidence of vast number of confirmed cases having little to no symptoms, presenting like a mild cold.  This means that many people are not even seeking medical attention and are going undiagnosed and recover without issue, to them.  They may very well infect others.

But they aren't being counted.  This means that it throws off the ratio of cases vs deaths and make it look like the frequency of deaths is much higher vs infections than it truly is.

This is why medical experts are warning against firstly following the daily numbers, and secondly rely on the death rate as it is not real-world accurate.

Our leaders and medical infrastructures should be taking the worst possible prediction into account to help to work towards dealing with it, but us on the ground, we shouldn't be.

Having people post misleading claims like 45 Million will be dead, minimum, and "we're all doomed", that's just dangerous stupidity and they should be ashamed.



I cant believe your serious...I live alone like so many and I am retired  if I get sick with flu like symptoms I will go to bed until I feel better    from previous experience the doctor can do nothing anyway...

only hypochondriacs rush to doctors with flu symptoms....

and you want our fragile health resources which are always stretched to be used for people who show signs of having a cold....omg..

mate you are getting worse......please stay home where you would at least be as safe as anyone.....

get everything delivered.. its the only way to keep safe...

me I went to a place that was jumping this morning full of people enjoying Canberra Day    not one mask in sight...NOT ONE>..

we cant help you folks who want to believe everything thats bad......me I prefer to believe the best ....and we are certainly in the best country to weather this storm...

come on sad you can do better than this.


He's not saying what you think he's saying, cods. He's saying Govt and the health services should be looking at worst case scenarios to be prepared for whatever happens, every day citizens shouldn't, they can't do much except take sensible precautions. That is not telling people to rush to the doctor.



oh OK... sad has been a worrywart all the same...sorry sad.
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Reply #1718 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:09pm
 
Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:04pm:
[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1579765351/1715#1715 date=1583733710]

Not really, the 1918 flu was brought here by sea.



So - what is the answer?
How can we stop these sorts of viruses?
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Reply #1719 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:09pm
 
Bobby, listen to Brian, he's a doctor.
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Reply #1720 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:10pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:09pm:
Bobby, listen to Brian, he's a doctor.



A doctor of divinity.
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Reply #1721 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:11pm
 
I heard today.morality rate for people above 80 is 15%.

Any Ozpol members in that age bracket?
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Reply #1722 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:12pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:10pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:09pm:
Bobby, listen to Brian, he's a doctor.



A doctor of divinity.


Yeah but he's also a bit austistic so he's probably a prodigy and studied to be an MD in his spare time.
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Reply #1723 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:13pm
 
Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 7:26am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 7:18am:
Sophia wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 3:42pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 3:17pm:
Now the army has it. I wonder if China will invade while the army has the flu?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/two-australian-defence-force-members-tes...


Our defence force! What a virus can do to our defence force.

As Chris Martensen says, we have ...

Case.
Case.
Case.
Cluster.
Cluster...
Boom!

Remember Oz had 25 cases for a while, no change, like a calm before a storm..... suddenly, we have 78.
It’s tripled in a short amount of time.




That's because they haven't tightened up our borders enough ...... and people are flying in & out from all over the globe & are not being screened ...... or quarantined.



One thing is for sure -
air travel was the cause of this virus spreading
all around the world so quickly.


Actually, you're right, Bobby.  Perhaps we should stop all air travel and go back to ships?  Ships take appreciably longer tine to reach their destinations.  More than long enough to avoid such nasties.   Wink


Not really, the 1918 flu was brought here by sea.


There is always someone who will spoil the story.  Today, the 1918 Flu would be considered fairly mild.  Today, we have the medical care and the knowledge to treat it, Set.  They didn't in 1918.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1724 - Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:09pm:
Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2020 at 4:04pm:
[quote author=Brian_Ross link=1579765351/1715#1715 date=1583733710]

Not really, the 1918 flu was brought here by sea.



So - what is the answer?
How can we stop these sorts of viruses?


Stop all travel.  Get Governments all over the world to bring all health services up to 21st century standards.  Roll Eyes

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