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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Corona virus Reply #1920 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 7:46am I was just answering bobbys question about the timing of flu vaccines Spot
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Re: Corona virus
Reply #1922 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 7:50am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 7:02am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 6:54am:

I was reading somewhere yesterday that they are speeding up the vaccine by not testing it on animals first. Straight to humans.

Spot

Paedophiles and politicians - rats have morals and feelings....

they may have to start at parliament House grap

the boogie man is up there... Grin

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30110 Gender:	Re: Corona virus Reply #1923 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 7:50am flip
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Reply #1924 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 8:01am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 7:46am:

I was just answering bobbys question about the timing of flu vaccines

Spot

Yeah, I know.

But comparing it to the flu is why everyone is so confused.

It's not the flu.

Comparing it to a cold is more accurate (but still very unwise), and there's no cure for the common cold.

People holding out for a vaccine are going to be sorely disappointed.

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Reply #1925 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:06am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 7:02am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 6:54am:

I was reading somewhere yesterday that they are speeding up the vaccine by not testing it on animals first. Straight to humans.

Spot

Paedophiles and politicians - rats have morals and feelings....

try it on dutton first so at least we know our tax payers money is not compeltely wasted on him Wink

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Reply #1926 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:41am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 6:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 4:54am:

I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.

Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.

So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?

Because even though the flu mutates we know its basic structure. Additionally we've developed the methodology with the flu to make it that fast.

We don't have either of these thigns for Covid-19

Thanks but I was hoping for a more
technical explanation.

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #1927 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:49am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:41am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 6:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 4:54am:

I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.

Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.

So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?

Because even though the flu mutates we know its basic structure. Additionally we've developed the methodology with the flu to make it that fast.

We don't have either of these thigns for Covid-19

Thanks but I was hoping for a more
technical explanation.

They have to create a strain of the virus that is similar enough to the actual virus that the body will create antibodies for it that will be effective against COVID-19, but at the same time is different enough that it doesn't cause the same sickness to those who take it.

Engineering that right balance and TESTING to the high standards demanded of vaccines is what takes the time.

It's likely they'll have something they can start trialling soon, but that's almost just the beginning. The trial results will go into further refinement, further testing etc and the cycle will continue until those high standards are met (in terms of testing, safety and effectiveness).

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Reply #1928 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:54am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:41am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 6:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 4:54am:

I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.

Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.

So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?

Because even though the flu mutates we know its basic structure. Additionally we've developed the methodology with the flu to make it that fast.

We don't have either of these thigns for Covid-19

Thanks but I was hoping for a more
technical explanation.

I was trying to talk down to your level.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #1929 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:59am

KangAnon wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:41am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 6:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 4:54am:

I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.

Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.

So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?

Because even though the flu mutates we know its basic structure. Additionally we've developed the methodology with the flu to make it that fast.

We don't have either of these thigns for Covid-19

Thanks but I was hoping for a more
technical explanation.

They have to create a strain of the virus that is similar enough to the actual virus that the body will create antibodies for it that will be effective against COVID-19, but at the same time is different enough that it doesn't cause the same sickness to those who take it.

Engineering that right balance and TESTING to the high standards demanded of vaccines is what takes the time.

It's likely they'll have something they can start trialling soon, but that's almost just the beginning. The trial results will go into further refinement, further testing etc and the cycle will continue until those high standards are met (in terms of testing, safety and effectiveness).

Thanks Mr Sad,
I am like everyone else -
I'm hoping that something can be fast tracked.

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Reply #1930 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 10:04am

KangAnon wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:41am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 6:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 4:54am:

I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.

Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.

So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?

Because even though the flu mutates we know its basic structure. Additionally we've developed the methodology with the flu to make it that fast.

We don't have either of these thigns for Covid-19

Thanks but I was hoping for a more
technical explanation.

They have to create a strain of the virus that is similar enough to the actual virus that the body will create antibodies for it that will be effective against COVID-19, but at the same time is different enough that it doesn't cause the same sickness to those who take it.

Engineering that right balance and TESTING to the high standards demanded of vaccines is what takes the time.

It's likely they'll have something they can start trialling soon, but that's almost just the beginning. The trial results will go into further refinement, further testing etc and the cycle will continue until those high standards are met (in terms of testing, safety and effectiveness).

You know Bobby, we don’t want a rushed vaccine that could make healthy people ill or die.

I was watching a documentary the other night about the polio injection and how it caused a lot of problems.

The vaccine went awry somewhere along the line and thousands of healthy children ended up crippled with polio!

Such competition be first with a vaccine?

Geezuz, the amount of innocent children suffered saddened me.
And that’s something to go by, no one wants to have a rushed vaccine without proper testing and even then, who knows what it can do in future to your immune system given it time.

Recall thalidomide?
And debendox?

I was given a prescription of debendox for my pregnancy back in 1981, for nausea.
For some reason, even though the vomiting was rife during the early months of pregnancy, I never took debendox.

Then it was banned in the USA for suspected problems that could occur with babies/infants.

Seems nothing is safe unless the passage of time proves it.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107125 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Corona virus Reply #1931 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 10:23am Good points Lols.
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Reply #1932 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 10:33am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:59am:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 9:41am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 6:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 16^th, 2020 at 4:54am:

I don't understand why it will take such a long time to get a vaccine for Covid-19 ?
I've heard 1 year to 18 months.

Every year we get a vaccine available for up to 4 different types of flu.
We are told that it's the flu that was in the Northern hemisphere over their winter
which is often only 3 to 4 months from when we are inoculated.

So why is a Covid-19 vaccine going to take up to 5 times longer?

Because even though the flu mutates we know its basic structure. Additionally we've developed the methodology with the flu to make it that fast.

We don't have either of these thigns for Covid-19

Thanks but I was hoping for a more
technical explanation.

They have to create a strain of the virus that is similar enough to the actual virus that the body will create antibodies for it that will be effective against COVID-19, but at the same time is different enough that it doesn't cause the same sickness to those who take it.

Engineering that right balance and TESTING to the high standards demanded of vaccines is what takes the time.

It's likely they'll have something they can start trialling soon, but that's almost just the beginning. The trial results will go into further refinement, further testing etc and the cycle will continue until those high standards are met (in terms of testing, safety and effectiveness).

Thanks Mr Sad,
I am like everyone else -
I'm hoping that something can be fast tracked.

If the way they are fast-tracking it is skipping on the testing - it could be more dangerous than the actual virus.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-vaccine-trial-no-animal-testing.html

Spot

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Reply #1933 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 12:40pm

Brisbane doctors have identified two medicines, already in public use for other ailments, that have been found to stop coronavirus dead in it's tracks. The fact that is is already in use means this can be approved for use with corona fairly quickly

Lets hope the govt. jumps in and gives them the funding they need.

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Coronavirus treatment: Australian researchers ‘within reach’ of cure

Brisbane researchers say they are within reach of finding a cure for COVID-19 but need donations to accelerate the research.

In lab testing, two drugs have stopped Coronavirus in its tracks and a clinical trial on humans is ready to begin.

Watch the video above

Renowned RBWH Infectious Diseases Physician Professor David Paterson who is overseeing the research said the drugs are “effective” but they are yet to determine whether “one is better than another”.

He’s hoping these drugs are the panacea the world so desperately needs.

“Potentially down the road, it’s even something a general practitioner could prescribe,” Paterson said.
Safe for use

Both medications are safe for use in Australia, one treats malaria, the other HIV and in test tube studies both effectively kill the virus.

The drugs have already been given to patients infected with COVID-19 abroad and on home soil with promising results.

When asked how close we are to a cure, Paterson said there is “potential” that this drug “could cure the infection”.

But without human trials, these drugs can’t be administered with any certainty.

“We are going to coordinate with hospitals in NSW and Victoria so that we can all work on a common protocol to get the answers as quickly as possible,” Paterson said.
Funding

If the trial is successful, within three months researchers should know whether these drugs are effective in treating COVID-19.

The trial can begin within weeks but researchers need $750,000 to fund it.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/australian-researchers-within-re...

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9660 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Corona virus Reply #1934 - Mar 16^th, 2020 at 2:21pm That's good news, John. And, we all could use some of that these days. Anne Murray - A Little Good News. Just as relevant today (even more so) as it was in 1983.
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