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Re: Corona virus
Reply #960 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 6:46am

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:50pm:

"... right-wing ideologies attract people with lower mental abilities because they minimize the complexity of the world.

"Right-wing ideologies offer well-structured and ordered views of society, views that preserve traditions and norms, so they are especially attractive to those who are threatened by change and want to avoid uncertainty and ambiguity.

"Conversely, smart people are more capable of grasping a world of nuance, fluidity and relativity."

Is Racism Just a Form of Stupidity?

Smart hey?? We weren't the ones who imported grooming gangs and Islamic terrorists into our countries. That was morons like you self perceived smart people.

Refresh my memory.

Who was it who flew this guy to Australia, granted him asylum, made him an Australian citizen, and then stood by and did nothing while he carried out an attack in Martin Place?

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #961 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 6:54am

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 4:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:29am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:05am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I am pointing out that it is not racist to call Asians....Asians.

Nobody said it was.

This, however, is racist:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

I have no problem if you think it is. Like I've said....it's on you. It's your opinion. I will not "own" your opinion. Roll Eyes

It has nothing to do with my, or anyone else's, opinion.

It's an undeniable fact.

This is a racist statement:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

Source......

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1579765351/872#872

Source of the UNDENIABLE FACT.

I am aware of what was posted.....AND BY WHO. Grin

How does restricting all "Asians" from entering the country target the virus?

It doesn't.

It targets Asians.

It doesn't even target those who aren't citizens. It targets people by race no matter their right to be in the country.

You can be an Australian born Chinese for example (since it appears to the original poster, "Asian" only means "Chinese"), and they went to NZ for a holiday, the first time out of the country. They aren't allowed back home either.

The statement and sentiment needs refining because currently, it's too broad and simply racist.

But as Greggy pointed out, that's the point. That the allure of right-wing ideologies. You sheld all the complexity of the real world and replace it with one-liners that might make people feel better but won't solve or even target the stated problem, usually making a donor of the given party rich in the process.

Stop the boats.

Build the wall.

Make America Great Again.

Keep America Great Again.

All empty slogans without any detail used to dupe the stupid into reading into them what they want.

"Make America Great Again", many Trump supporters read into that "Keep Muslims out and America White".

It's clever, in the laziest of ways, but effective. I'd underestimated how many truely stupid people there are in the world, in the US.

And here.

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #962 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:10am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:16pm:

Coronavirus fears see Malaysian student evicted from Perth share house by landlord Roll Eyes

that is sad..

but its FEAR and PANIC....

people are dying ..that is a fact....

so far the deaths have occured in CHina. probably because they didnt work fast enough to prevent its travel through the community.....

they prefer to save face rather than lives.. Angry

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #963 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:25am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:29am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:05am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I am pointing out that it is not racist to call Asians....Asians.

Nobody said it was.

This, however, is racist:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

I have no problem if you think it is. Like I've said....it's on you. It's your opinion. I will not "own" your opinion. Roll Eyes

It has nothing to do with my, or anyone else's, opinion.

It's an undeniable fact.

This is a racist statement:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

Source......

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1579765351/872#872

How's this for racism ......

A new category of person described by the High Court as a "Belonger"? Grin

2 criminals & non citizens of Australia who were to be deported for their violent criminal actions have had their deportation stopped by a ruling of the High Court, 4 votes to 3 that if you have any Aboriginal heritage or identify as Aboriginal & were born overseas and a non citizen you cannot be deported as an alien under the constitution or on character grounds.

The highest court in the land conducting -Quote Morgan Begg - "the most radical instance of Judicial activism in Australias history."

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/high-court-says-indigenous-men-daniel-lo...

No wonder this country is going downhill at a rapid rate.

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #964 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:28am

cods wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:10am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:16pm:

Coronavirus fears see Malaysian student evicted from Perth share house by landlord Roll Eyes

that is sad..

but its FEAR and PANIC....

people are dying ..that is a fact....

so far the deaths have occured in CHina. probably because they didnt work fast enough to prevent its travel through the community.....

they prefer to save face rather than lives.. Angry

Zero evidence that's racism.

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #965 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:30am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 6:54am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 4:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:29am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:05am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I am pointing out that it is not racist to call Asians....Asians.

Nobody said it was.

This, however, is racist:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

I have no problem if you think it is. Like I've said....it's on you. It's your opinion. I will not "own" your opinion. Roll Eyes

It has nothing to do with my, or anyone else's, opinion.

It's an undeniable fact.

This is a racist statement:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

Source......

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1579765351/872#872

Source of the UNDENIABLE FACT.

I am aware of what was posted.....AND BY WHO. Grin

How does restricting all "Asians" from entering the country target the virus?

It doesn't.

It targets Asians.

It doesn't even target those who aren't citizens. It targets people by race no matter their right to be in the country.

You can be an Australian born Chinese for example (since it appears to the original poster, "Asian" only means "Chinese"), and they went to NZ for a holiday, the first time out of the country. They aren't allowed back home either.

The statement and sentiment needs refining because currently, it's too broad and simply racist.

But as Greggy pointed out, that's the point. That the allure of right-wing ideologies. You sheld all the complexity of the real world and replace it with one-liners that might make people feel better but won't solve or even target the stated problem, usually making a donor of the given party rich in the process.

Stop the boats.

Build the wall.

Make America Great Again.

Keep America Great Again.

All empty slogans without any detail used to dupe the stupid into reading into them what they want.

"Make America Great Again", many Trump supporters read into that "Keep Muslims out and America White".

It's clever, in the laziest of ways, but effective. I'd underestimated how many truely stupid people there are in the world, in the US.

And here.

You never isolate the source in a potential epidemic/pandemic situation do you? Roll Eyes

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #966 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:57am

Gnads wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:30am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 6:54am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 4:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:29am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:05am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I am pointing out that it is not racist to call Asians....Asians.

Nobody said it was.

This, however, is racist:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

I have no problem if you think it is. Like I've said....it's on you. It's your opinion. I will not "own" your opinion. Roll Eyes

It has nothing to do with my, or anyone else's, opinion.

It's an undeniable fact.

This is a racist statement:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

Source......

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1579765351/872#872

Source of the UNDENIABLE FACT.

I am aware of what was posted.....AND BY WHO. Grin

How does restricting all "Asians" from entering the country target the virus?

It doesn't.

It targets Asians.

It doesn't even target those who aren't citizens. It targets people by race no matter their right to be in the country.

You can be an Australian born Chinese for example (since it appears to the original poster, "Asian" only means "Chinese"), and they went to NZ for a holiday, the first time out of the country. They aren't allowed back home either.

The statement and sentiment needs refining because currently, it's too broad and simply racist.

But as Greggy pointed out, that's the point. That the allure of right-wing ideologies. You sheld all the complexity of the real world and replace it with one-liners that might make people feel better but won't solve or even target the stated problem, usually making a donor of the given party rich in the process.

Stop the boats.

Build the wall.

Make America Great Again.

Keep America Great Again.

All empty slogans without any detail used to dupe the stupid into reading into them what they want.

"Make America Great Again", many Trump supporters read into that "Keep Muslims out and America White".

It's clever, in the laziest of ways, but effective. I'd underestimated how many truely stupid people there are in the world, in the US.

And here.

You never isolate the source in a potential epidemic/pandemic situation do you? Roll Eyes

Exactly.

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #967 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 9:00am

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 3:05pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 9:44am:

The silent majority have spoken yet again, the Chinese restaurants, takeaways, food courts and other Chinese dominated areas are deserted and no amount of coercion by our pc politicians telling us to love honour and respect them is going to work, their culture could wipe out the entire human race, if not this time perhaps the next.

SHUT THE GATES, we are full.

Yes it certainly didn't earn them any brownie points, and from now on we will have it in the back of our minds that people of Asian and Chinese appearance are more prone to spread deadly viruses around the world more so than health conscious Western citizens these days

it wouldn't surprise me if our local Vietnamese got a virus from their filthy takeaway food shops sometime in the future. Sensible traditional Aussies like myself give them a wide berth, and we know what their kitchens are like out the back of the shops, a starved dog would take one look and a sniff, and instinctively remain hungry

I moved to the safety of the bush. I stopped listening to PC politicians decades ago and I think well outside their brain-dead box. There are times when we must brush stupid Lib Lab politics aside to maintain our sanity and common sense

Given the Chinese track record on virus outbreaks they are a bigger threat to humanity than atom bombs.

I to live in the country and are dismayed at what I see every time I venture into the big smoke.

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #968 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 9:14am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 6:54am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 4:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:29am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:22am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:05am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

I am pointing out that it is not racist to call Asians....Asians.

Nobody said it was.

This, however, is racist:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

I have no problem if you think it is. Like I've said....it's on you. It's your opinion. I will not "own" your opinion. Roll Eyes

It has nothing to do with my, or anyone else's, opinion.

It's an undeniable fact.

This is a racist statement:

"We should now restrict Asians coming to Australia".

Source......

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1579765351/872#872

Source of the UNDENIABLE FACT.

I am aware of what was posted.....AND BY WHO. Grin

How does restricting all "Asians" from entering the country target the virus?

It doesn't.

It targets Asians.

It doesn't even target those who aren't citizens. It targets people by race no matter their right to be in the country.

You can be an Australian born Chinese for example (since it appears to the original poster, "Asian" only means "Chinese"), and they went to NZ for a holiday, the first time out of the country. They aren't allowed back home either.

The statement and sentiment needs refining because currently, it's too broad and simply racist.

Racism in it's purist form.

You couldn't come up with a better example of a racist statement.

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #969 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 9:15am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 6:46am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:50pm:

"... right-wing ideologies attract people with lower mental abilities because they minimize the complexity of the world.

"Right-wing ideologies offer well-structured and ordered views of society, views that preserve traditions and norms, so they are especially attractive to those who are threatened by change and want to avoid uncertainty and ambiguity.

"Conversely, smart people are more capable of grasping a world of nuance, fluidity and relativity."

Is Racism Just a Form of Stupidity?

Smart hey?? We weren't the ones who imported grooming gangs and Islamic terrorists into our countries. That was morons like you self perceived smart people.

Refresh my memory.

Who was it who flew this guy to Australia, granted him asylum, made him an Australian citizen, and then stood by and did nothing while he carried out an attack in Martin Place?

https://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/5969860/data/man-haron-monis-custom-data.jpg

I'll give you a hint.

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #970 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 9:18am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 6:54am:

You sheld all the complexity of the real world and replace it with one-liners that might make people feel better but won't solve or even target the stated problem, usually making a donor of the given party rich in the process.

I don't suppose you'd like to explain the "complexities" of the world, would you?

We know one complexity, a friggin deadly virus in real world China. Nothing wrong with shielding against that, and wanting a mandatory examination of all Chinese visitors and students now and into the future

KangAnon wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 6:54am:

All empty slogans without any detail used to dupe the stupid into reading into them what they want.

Oh yeah, where was the detail in "Populate or Perish" or "It's Time", or Obama's "Yes we can"

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Our Lives Are Governed By The Feast & Famine Variable

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Re: Corona virus
Reply #972 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 9:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 9:31am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:16pm:

Coronavirus fears see Malaysian student evicted from Perth share house by landlord Roll Eyes

Be good if the picture showed the whole sign .

https://images.perthnow.com.au/publication/B881460855Z/1581497913530_GSO2KIDGP.3...

Fair enough. I still don't see the racism in this. More like a extreme fear of viruses. If the landlord was racist he/she wouldn't have allowed the Asian girl to live there in the first place. maybe there is an underlying issue involving rent not be paid?

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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8633	Re: Corona virus Reply #973 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 11:38am A heart wrenching report from a Wuhan funeral home staffer. My question is why this virus killing Chinese only? https://youtu.be/eYYV1B1lRKY
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Re: Corona virus
Reply #974 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 1:41pm

rhino wrote on Feb 13^th, 2020 at 12:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 10:05pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 8:16pm:

Coronavirus fears see Malaysian student evicted from Perth share house by landlord Roll Eyes

Be good if the picture showed the whole sign .

You have evidence that is not the "whole sign", Hammer? Roll Eyes

I heard the landlords are Indian themselves.

Who cares? Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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