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Reply #1140 - Jun 17^th, 2023 at 10:20pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 17^th, 2023 at 7:29pm:

But covid came from the wet market.

Only stupid idots believe that. There is zero zip zilch evidence it came from the wet market.

The first 3 cases worked at the Wuhan Lab.

I think the truth is that we don't really know.

Most likely and most supported by science the wet market.

The second most likely is that it escaped from the Lab in anti virus testing.

The least likely by far is that it was the result of a biological weapons program.

The vast majority of scientists say that the virus looks to be a naturally occuring version. This would be far more likely to either come from the field - the wet market or possibly from research that was using naturally infected animals. (there is no evidence that any such animal was ever found) This makes it less likely of the two. The most unlikely would be the bio weapon theory because the virus would not look like a naturally occurring strain.

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Reply #1141 - Jun 18^th, 2023 at 2:21pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 17^th, 2023 at 7:29pm:

But covid came from the wet market.

Only stupid idots believe that. There is zero zip zilch evidence it came from the wet market.

The first 3 cases worked at the Wuhan Lab.

Thanks Baron,
we know the truth.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46657 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1142 - Jun 18^th, 2023 at 2:23pm Blooby reckons he knows the truth Just read the crap he has posted in this thread and the garbage he has posted in Environment which is just a rubbish bin overloaded with crap.
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Reply #1143 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 8:31am

Monk owes us all a humble apology:

https://nypost.com/2023/06/17/its-becoming-undeniable-covid-came-from-a-chinese-...

It’s becoming undeniable: COVID came from a Chinese lab

By Post Editorial Board
June 17, 2023

Evidence that COVID came from a Chinese lab mounted toward a conclusive level last week: “Multiple government sources” say the very first people infected by the bug were Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers, a new report reveals.

More, they were allegedly modifying a close relative of the virus with a key feature unique to it.

The report — by Michael Shellenberger, Matt Taibbi and Alex Gutentag, posted on the outlet Public — names Ben Hu, Yu Ping and Yan Zhu as WIV scientists who developed COVID symptoms as early as November 2019, a month before the world even heard of the outbreak, and who now appear to be “patients zero.”

A source said officials were “100%” certain these three were the ones who developed the symptoms.

It’s “a game changer if it can be proven that Hu got sick with COVID-19 before anyone else,” marvels World Health Organization expert Jamie Metzl. “That would be the ‘smoking gun.’ Hu was the lead hands-on researcher” in the WIV lab.

Add in all the other evidence — especially the scientists’ gain-of-function work using a close relative of the COVID bug —

and it’s now impossible to ignore the extreme likelihood that a leak from the lab
sparked the global pandemic behind nearly 7 million deaths and untold economic harm.

It also points a damning finger at China for having waged the greatest coverup in history of the world — abetted by Westerners from Dr. Anthony Fauci to Big Tech to countless liberals and left-leaning media voices who misled the public by pooh-poohing the lab-leak theory early on, and actively suppressing those who pointed to evidence backing the theory.

Most tragically, per another report last week citing newly released cables, State Department officials believed the entire pandemic could’ve been contained early on if China had alerted the world of the outbreak instead of censoring news of it.

Oh, and guess who paid for at least some of Wuhan lab research that now appears to have sparked the pandemic? That’s right: you.

A Government Accountability Office breakdown Wednesday shows at least $2 million in US taxpayer funds went to the lab between 2014 and 2021, via the National Institute of Health, the University of California and a group called the EcoHealth Alliance.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104609 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1144 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 11:30am Fauci transferred forbidden technology and money to Wuhan to fund the Plandemic. 7 million died - the economic cost to the world is as high as $100 trillion. Nuremberg 2 trials are needed now with gallows waiting.
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Reply #1145 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 12:14pm

Some thoughts:

The first original strain of Covid-19 was super deadly
as expected from a bio weapon.
Remember Italy 2020 where healthy doctors and nurses died in their 100s
in the Covid wards even though they had double insulation
bio suits and N95 masks?
As per normal the virus mutated to a less deadly strain
which is the one that most of us got.

The same happened in 1918 -
the original H1N1 Spanish flu was super deadly
but the later strains were much weaker.
H1N1 is still around today and arrives every flu season but
even though it is much weaker it still kills millions of people every year.

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Reply #1146 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 12:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

Monk owes us all a humble apology:

https://nypost.com/2023/06/17/its-becoming-undeniable-covid-came-from-a-chinese-...

It’s becoming undeniable: COVID came from a Chinese lab

By Post Editorial Board
June 17, 2023

[url]https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/06/wuhan-institute
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Evidence that COVID came from a Chinese lab mounted toward a conclusive level last week: “Multiple government sources” say the very first people infected by the bug were Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers, a new report reveals.

More, they were allegedly modifying a close relative of the virus with a key feature unique to it.

The report — by Michael Shellenberger, Matt Taibbi and Alex Gutentag, posted on the outlet Public — names Ben Hu, Yu Ping and Yan Zhu as WIV scientists who developed COVID symptoms as early as November 2019, a month before the world even heard of the outbreak, and who now appear to be “patients zero.”

A source said officials were “100%” certain these three were the ones who developed the symptoms.

It’s “a game changer if it can be proven that Hu got sick with COVID-19 before anyone else,” marvels World Health Organization expert Jamie Metzl. “That would be the ‘smoking gun.’ Hu was the lead hands-on researcher” in the WIV lab.

Add in all the other evidence — especially the scientists’ gain-of-function work using a close relative of the COVID bug —

and it’s now impossible to ignore the extreme likelihood that a leak from the lab
sparked the global pandemic behind nearly 7 million deaths and untold economic harm.

It also points a damning finger at China for having waged the greatest coverup in history of the world — abetted by Westerners from Dr. Anthony Fauci to Big Tech to countless liberals and left-leaning media voices who misled the public by pooh-poohing the lab-leak theory early on, and actively suppressing those who pointed to evidence backing the theory.

Most tragically, per another report last week citing newly released cables, State Department officials believed the entire pandemic could’ve been contained early on if China had alerted the world of the outbreak instead of censoring news of it.

Oh, and guess who paid for at least some of Wuhan lab research that now appears to have sparked the pandemic? That’s right: you.

A Government Accountability Office breakdown Wednesday shows at least $2 million in US taxpayer funds went to the lab between 2014 and 2021, via the National Institute of Health, the University of California and a group called the EcoHealth Alliance.

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It’s “a game changer if it can be proven that Hu got sick with COVID-19 before anyone else,”

It has been known that Hu and 2 others were sick since 2020 and they still don't know that are still saying "IF"

Matt Taibbi in the by line does not help the stories credability following his disgraced bias with Twitter.

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Reply #1147 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 1:08pm

Mr DNA,
if you would have got the original Covid-19
you were toast - it was a grim reaper virus.
Those doctors and nurses in Italy were mostly young and healthy -
they didn't smoke or drink.
That's what caused so much panic.
The world leaders knew it was a bio weapon -
of course they never told us that -
they didn't want to panic us - and
there was no protection against it.
Super deadly viruses cause nearly everyone who gets it to die
so the virus is not passed on -
only weaker viruses survive as many people carry them without getting sick.
That's why viruses become weaker over time.
When the first strain came to Australia on the Ruby Princess it
wiped out whole nursing homes - everyone died.

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Reply #1148 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 1:27pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

and it’s now impossible to ignore the extreme likelihood that a leak from the lab sparked the global pandemic behind nearly 7 million deaths and untold economic harm.

Meanwhile, the 'high priests' of central banking, including at the IMF (Instant Misery Fund) and World Bank, are causing - day in day out - much greater harm, eg 70 million refugees from failed states collapsing under debt burdens their citizens had no part in creating.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/537#537

#537.

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Reply #1149 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 1:39pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 19^th, 2023 at 1:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2023 at 8:31am:

and it’s now impossible to ignore the extreme likelihood that a leak from the lab sparked the global pandemic behind nearly 7 million deaths and untold economic harm.

Meanwhile, the 'high priests' of central banking, including at the IMF (Instant Misery Fund) and World Bank, are causing - day in day out - much greater harm, eg 70 million refugees from failed states collapsing under debt burdens their citizens had no part in creating.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/537#537

#537.

That's off topic but important.

I feel we will never see justice for the bio weapon crimes that have been committed.
Even today - bio labs are still making Frankenstein viruses - all over the world -
and here in Australia too.

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Reply #1150 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 1:54pm

This gets more and more interesting as the days go by.

Chinese military scientist Zhou Yusen ‘thrown to his death’ at Wuhan lab for leaking COVID lab information

June 18, 2023

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A Chinese military scientist who was reportedly thrown to his death from the roof of a Wuhan institute is at the centre of mounting evidence that the COVID pandemic resulted from a lab leak.

Intelligence obtained by the US Senate reveals that Zhou Yusen filed a patent for a COVID-19 vaccine on February 24, 2020, barely a month after China put Wuhan into lockdown because of the outbreak.

US vaccine developers told investigators that it would have been impossible to have generated the data cited in the patent so swiftly –it would have taken about three months’ work, meaning that scientists at the Wuhan Institute for Virology were secretly working on a COVID vaccine in November at the latest.

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Zhou, who worked for the People’s Liberation Army and was collaborating with Wuhan scientists at the time of the outbreak, died in mysterious circumstances in May 2020, aged 54.

US investigators are said to have been told “Zhou fell from the roof of the institute”, although this has not been confirmed.

Personally, I've always suspected the SARS-CoV-2 virus came from the lab but it wasn't a 'man made' virus. It was a 'natural' virus they were doing gain of function research on and it accidentally (or deliberately?) escaped.

I saw some research posted somewhere about 6 or 12 months ago where scientists who analysed the virus closely claimed to have found evidence of DNA 'splicing' which would prove that "someone" was 'tinkering' with it.

In fact, I'm sure I posted about it in this very thread at the time... let's see if I can find it.

Edit: Found it.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1580611988/784#784

Which contains this link:

https://twitter.com/WashburneAlex/status/1583145276151189504

Which leads to this:

https://twitter.com/WashburneAlex/status/1583145283642220544

Haven't seen or heard any more about this since which I consider to be strange.

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** Repeat Covid infections exercise our immune system in the same way that repeat concussions exercise our brain **

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Reply #1151 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 5:23pm

Carl,
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It was a 'natural' virus they were doing gain of function research on and it accidentally (or deliberately?) escaped.

I saw some research posted somewhere about 6 or 12 months ago where scientists who analysed the virus closely claimed to have found evidence of DNA 'splicing' which would prove that "someone" was 'tinkering' with it.

That's exactly what happened.

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Reply #1152 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 6:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 19^th, 2023 at 5:23pm:

Carl,
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It was a 'natural' virus they were doing gain of function research on and it accidentally (or deliberately?) escaped.

I saw some research posted somewhere about 6 or 12 months ago where scientists who analysed the virus closely claimed to have found evidence of DNA 'splicing' which would prove that "someone" was 'tinkering' with it.

That's exactly what happened.

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/134/196/016/original/73ab48...

You keep posting that the problem is that it isn't true.

Gain of function is part of the development process for most vaccines.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46657 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1153 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 9:02pm A part of the virus genome LOOKS like it may have been designed. That is it for evidence that the virus is a bioweapon.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58468 Here Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1154 - Jun 19^th, 2023 at 9:10pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 19^th, 2023 at 9:02pm: A part of the virus genome LOOKS like it may have been designed. That is it for evidence that the virus is a bioweapon. I would say that most reasonable people just don't know how it originated but definitely the bio weapon is the least likely.
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