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Reply #135 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:12pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 1:51pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 1:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 12:55pm:
How about exclude the usual suspects first then move onto conspiracy theories.



The Fringe forum is here to discuss alternative theories.


Yes, but not to the exclusion of the most likely.






Only master Light could judge that one.




Ype, trustworthy
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Reply #136 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:18pm
 
Repeat:


It was engineered from the AIDS virus.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/27/coronavirus-hiv-like-mutation-helps-attack-human-...


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Coronavirus has an ‘HIV-like mutation’ which helps it to attack human cells, scientists claim author imageJasper HamillThursday 27 Feb 2020 1:12 pm

The coronavirus has an ‘HIV-like’ mutation which helps it to bind with human cells at a terrifyingly effective rate, Chinese scientists have claimed. A new study from Nankai University alleged that Covid-19’s ability to infect cells is up to 1,000 times more powerful than SARS, a coronavirus which caused 774 deaths in 17 countries between November 2002 and July 2003. The new coronavirus emerged in Wuhan, China, and has now killed 2,800 victims and infected more than 80,000. In a new piece of research, scientists said SARS enters the human body by binding with a protein called ACE2 that exists in human cell membranes. But the new coronavirus aims for an enzyme called furin – the same enzyme attacked by HIV and ebola. Professor Ruan Jishou and his team at Nankai University found genes in Covid-19 which did not exist in SARS but can be found in both of the viruses responsible for spreading HIV and ebola, according to the South China Morning Post.


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Reply #137 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:26pm
 
HIV-like mutation



Its like, not is HIV. HIV and coronavirus aren't even directly related to one another.


Please. Do science, then come back.
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Reply #138 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:37pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:26pm:
HIV-like mutation



Its like, not is HIV. HIV and coronavirus aren't even directly related to one another.


Please. Do science, then come back.



1,000 times more powerful than SARS

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Reply #139 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:26pm:
HIV-like mutation



Its like, not is HIV. HIV and coronavirus aren't even directly related to one another.


Please. Do science, then come back.



1,000 times more powerful than SARS




In terms of virology this is not a term that is used.
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Reply #140 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:43pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:26pm:
HIV-like mutation



Its like, not is HIV. HIV and coronavirus aren't even directly related to one another.


Please. Do science, then come back.



1,000 times more powerful than SARS



Powerful as in?

Deadly, its transmission rates, it's ability to live outside the body?
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SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:26pm:
HIV-like mutation



Its like, not is HIV. HIV and coronavirus aren't even directly related to one another.


Please. Do science, then come back.



1,000 times more powerful than SARS



Powerful as in?

Deadly, its transmission rates, it's ability to live outside the body?




Ability to produce bullshit from people?
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Reply #142 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:54pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:45pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:26pm:
HIV-like mutation



Its like, not is HIV. HIV and coronavirus aren't even directly related to one another.


Please. Do science, then come back.



1,000 times more powerful than SARS



Powerful as in?

Deadly, its transmission rates, it's ability to live outside the body?


Ability to produce bullshit from people?



Don't believe it then you doubting Thomas.


"A new study from Nankai University alleged that Covid-19’s ability to infect cells
is up to 1,000 times more powerful than SARS,"
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Reply #143 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 3:05pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:45pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 2nd, 2020 at 2:26pm:
HIV-like mutation



Its like, not is HIV. HIV and coronavirus aren't even directly related to one another.


Please. Do science, then come back.



1,000 times more powerful than SARS



Powerful as in?

Deadly, its transmission rates, it's ability to live outside the body?


Ability to produce bullshit from people?



Don't believe it then you doubting Thomas.


"A new study from Nankai University alleged that Covid-19’s ability to infect cells
is up to 1,000 times more powerful than SARS,"




You do realise what that means right?
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Reply #144 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 5:43pm
 
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You do realise what that means right?


It means we're in for a rough time.
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Reply #145 - Mar 2nd, 2020 at 5:50pm
 
It's in Melbourne.



https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/an-australian-coronavir...


PASSENGERS EXPOSED ON FLIGHTS

This comes as passengers who were on a flight from Bali to Melbourne on Friday may have been exposed to the coronavirus after a woman on the flight was diagnosed with the illness.

A woman in her 30s, who was on her way back from Iran via Kuala Lumpur and Bali, was on the Malindo Air OD 177 flight that arrived at Melbourne Airport at around 6am on Friday.

She travelled by private car from the airport directly to her home before going to the hospital the following day after developing symptoms of the virus.

The woman was immediately isolated and tested for COVID-19, returning a positive result on Sunday.

Victorian Chief Health Minister Brett Sutton urged all passengers who were on the flight to call the Victorian Department of Health’s COVID-19 helpline on 1800 675 398.

Heath Authorities are requesting all passengers who were sitting in the same row or two rows either side of the woman to self isolate.
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Reply #146 - Mar 5th, 2020 at 6:04pm
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8074613/Coronavirus-fight-LOST-Leadin...

Coronavirus fight is LOST:


Leading scientist admits world tried 'very hard' to stop the outbreak but the battle is OVER as more than 80 countries have confirmed cases of the killer infection.

    Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, said global battle was lost
    Added the UK was in the 'early stage' of an epidemic and said time is running out
    Urged more drastic measures to contain virus on home soil and mitigate deaths.

The world's battle with coronavirus is now over, a leading scientist today declared amid the rampant spread of the deadly infection.

Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, admitted the world 'tried very hard to stop this virus altogether' but had failed.

He told the BBC Today programme: 'You can see from the statistics, the number of countries affected that that battle is really over.'

More than 80 nations across the world have now confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

The Faroe Islands and Poland today became the latest countries to be struck – only a handful of European nations have not recorded cases.
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Reply #147 - Mar 6th, 2020 at 8:36am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 5th, 2020 at 6:04pm:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8074613/Coronavirus-fight-LOST-Leadin...

Coronavirus fight is LOST:


Leading scientist admits world tried 'very hard' to stop the outbreak but the battle is OVER as more than 80 countries have confirmed cases of the killer infection.

    Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, said global battle was lost
    Added the UK was in the 'early stage' of an epidemic and said time is running out
    Urged more drastic measures to contain virus on home soil and mitigate deaths.

The world's battle with coronavirus is now over, a leading scientist today declared amid the rampant spread of the deadly infection.

Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, admitted the world 'tried very hard to stop this virus altogether' but had failed.

He told the BBC Today programme: 'You can see from the statistics, the number of countries affected that that battle is really over.'

More than 80 nations across the world have now confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

The Faroe Islands and Poland today became the latest countries to be struck – only a handful of European nations have not recorded cases.



As I said I'm resigned to getting it.
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Reply #148 - Mar 6th, 2020 at 10:58am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 5th, 2020 at 6:04pm:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8074613/Coronavirus-fight-LOST-Leadin...

Coronavirus fight is LOST:


Leading scientist admits world tried 'very hard' to stop the outbreak but the battle is OVER as more than 80 countries have confirmed cases of the killer infection.

    Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, said global battle was lost
    Added the UK was in the 'early stage' of an epidemic and said time is running out
    Urged more drastic measures to contain virus on home soil and mitigate deaths.

The world's battle with coronavirus is now over, a leading scientist today declared amid the rampant spread of the deadly infection.

Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, admitted the world 'tried very hard to stop this virus altogether' but had failed.

He told the BBC Today programme: 'You can see from the statistics, the number of countries affected that that battle is really over.'

More than 80 nations across the world have now confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

The Faroe Islands and Poland today became the latest countries to be struck – only a handful of European nations have not recorded cases.


It was never going to be contained.  The medical experts knew this.  The fact that it can spread without a carrier showing any symptoms and not just early on, some people never experience symptoms or get nothing more than a mild cold-like, not even flu-like symptoms plus the variable length of time for the incubation period before symptoms show or even a positive test result will measure.

This is why while we have a number of confirmed cases, the number of actual cases is likely far far higher.  This is why the death rate and the lethality based on only confirmed cases is a little misleading, again, what the experts are saying.

The paradigm of the media wanting to be the first to report, wanting to get the most out of every story and hyping, scaring people, telling them to prepare and panic buy etc, it's worse than what the virus is, at this stage anyway.

And we can see it in how people talk about it on here.  The same few are claiming we're in the end times...

They've caught the hype train and are wanting to be the first to report here whatever sensational news they read without a care for fact-checking or even correcting themselves after someone else has fact-checked them.

The misinformation and panic, for no reason, is going to cost economies around the world dearly.

Even now, we should be alert, but not anxious. 

Alert, take all the normal flu precautions, hand washing, avoid touching face, clean surfaces, avoid travel and crowed places unless you need to be there (like a Queen concert lol), but don't be anxious, don't go panic buying or seeking medication or even alternative treatment and preventative measures you've seen on facebook or twitter...

Don't drink or gargle bleach.

Don't even waste your time doing the same with salt, it doesn't help and will make you think you may have defeated the virus leading you to spread it around more.

Don't pay through the nose for these Miracle Mineral Solutions, or Silver Solutions.  They don't do anything to kill the virus or stop you getting if you've been exposed and could actually harm you.

Just be smart and live your lives.

Fact check the shared social media, whatsapp and chain email messages about "Dr so and so, from someplace says" because 90% of them are bullshit and again will give you a false sense of security especially if you've been exposed and will help the further spread of the virus.

I'm deeply disappointed that so many people need to be told this.  I knew politically we are a stupid people in Australia, but I'm shocked at how generally stupid so many people actually are.
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Reply #149 - Mar 6th, 2020 at 11:03am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 6th, 2020 at 10:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 5th, 2020 at 6:04pm:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8074613/Coronavirus-fight-LOST-Leadin...

Coronavirus fight is LOST:


Leading scientist admits world tried 'very hard' to stop the outbreak but the battle is OVER as more than 80 countries have confirmed cases of the killer infection.

    Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, said global battle was lost
    Added the UK was in the 'early stage' of an epidemic and said time is running out
    Urged more drastic measures to contain virus on home soil and mitigate deaths.

The world's battle with coronavirus is now over, a leading scientist today declared amid the rampant spread of the deadly infection.

Professor Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, admitted the world 'tried very hard to stop this virus altogether' but had failed.

He told the BBC Today programme: 'You can see from the statistics, the number of countries affected that that battle is really over.'

More than 80 nations across the world have now confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

The Faroe Islands and Poland today became the latest countries to be struck – only a handful of European nations have not recorded cases.


It was never going to be contained.  The medical experts knew this.  The fact that it can spread without a carrier showing any symptoms and not just early on, some people never experience symptoms or get nothing more than a mild cold-like, not even flu-like symptoms plus the variable length of time for the incubation period before symptoms show or even a positive test result will measure.

This is why while we have a number of confirmed cases, the number of actual cases is likely far far higher.  This is why the death rate and the lethality based on only confirmed cases is a little misleading, again, what the experts are saying.

The paradigm of the media wanting to be the first to report, wanting to get the most out of every story and hyping, scaring people, telling them to prepare and panic buy etc, it's worse than what the virus is, at this stage anyway.

And we can see it in how people talk about it on here.  The same few are claiming we're in the end times...

They've caught the hype train and are wanting to be the first to report here whatever sensational news they read without a care for fact-checking or even correcting themselves after someone else has fact-checked them.

The misinformation and panic, for no reason, is going to cost economies around the world dearly.

Even now, we should be alert, but not anxious. 

Alert, take all the normal flu precautions, hand washing, avoid touching face, clean surfaces, avoid travel and crowed places unless you need to be there (like a Queen concert lol), but don't be anxious, don't go panic buying or seeking medication or even alternative treatment and preventative measures you've seen on facebook or twitter...

Don't drink or gargle bleach. 
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Don't even waste your time doing the same with salt, it doesn't help and will make you think you may have defeated the virus leading you to spread it around more.

Don't pay through the nose for these Miracle Mineral Solutions, or Silver Solutions.  They don't do anything to kill the virus or stop you getting if you've been exposed and could actually harm you.

Just be smart and live your lives.

Fact check the shared social media, whatsapp and chain email messages about "Dr so and so, from someplace says" because 90% of them are bullshit and again will give you a false sense of security especially if you've been exposed and will help the further spread of the virus.

I'm deeply disappointed that so many people need to be told this.  I knew politically we are a stupid people in Australia, but I'm shocked at how generally stupid so many people actually are.
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1. Lol, Trump supporters   Grin

2. Me too. This has been an eye-opener.  The panic buying of toilet paper has shown me just how incredibly stupid some Australians are.
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