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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48577 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1470 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 3:50pm Raccoon Dogs! Monk is a flippin idiot. 😆😂🤣
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105125 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1471 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 3:55pm Jasin wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 3:50pm: Raccoon Dogs! Monk is a flippin idiot. 😆😂🤣 Monk always believes what the ABC and SBS tell him.
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SadKangaroo Moderator Offline #FightStupid Posts: 17271 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1472 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:05pm Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 5:03pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 4:59pm: NOTHING in-depth about your pile of crap. Monk, your opinion doesn't count because you're nothing more than a quarrelsome drunk. Play the ball, not the man.
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Reply #1473 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:05pm:

If Ozpolitic awarded a journalist prize for excellence, I'm sure I'd win it.

Nothing can measure up to 100 page long threads -
I really come up with the goodies.

You and Light are the same.

You both claim that page count is more important than substance, something only those spouting utter crap would ever claim.

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Reply #1474 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:11pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

NOTHING in-depth about your pile of crap.

Monk,
your opinion doesn't count because you're
nothing more than a quarrelsome drunk.

Play the ball, not the man.

Does that apply to Monk as well? Undecided

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Reply #1475 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:12pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:05pm:

If Ozpolitic awarded a journalist prize for excellence, I'm sure I'd win it.

Nothing can measure up to 100 page long threads -
I really come up with the goodies.

You and Light are the same.

You both claim that page count is more important than substance, something only those spouting utter crap would ever claim.

The sheer weight of evidence mounts up.

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Reply #1476 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:11pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 5:03pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:

NOTHING in-depth about your pile of crap.

Monk,
your opinion doesn't count because you're
nothing more than a quarrelsome drunk.

Play the ball, not the man.

Does that apply to Monk as well? Undecided

Of course it does.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47087 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1477 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:48pm The genotypes of viruses studied at the Wuhan Lab puts paid to the theory the virus arose in that lab.
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Reply #1478 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 4:51pm

For the female dumber than Booby:

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What countries have raccoon dogs?
Raccoon dogs (also known as a 'tanuki' or a Japanese raccoon dog) aren't raccoons – they're members of the canid (dog) family. They're native to the forests of eastern Siberia, northern China, northern Vietnam, Korea and Japan.

https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/other/raccoondogs#:~:text=Raccoon...

These are eaten by some Chinese and are or were available from the Wuhan wet market.

This was mentioned earlier in this thread when I posted the study of all those swabs.

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Reply #1479 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 5:47pm

Like Ive said often.
Before COVID, I watched a doco about Most dangerous jobs.
I've tried to find the episode, but no luck.
It was about Chinese workers going after prized nests that reap big money for delicacy consumption.
Sadly, these caves have lots of bats and their excrement on Cave floors is where CORONA VIRUS comes from.
These workers are attired in just thongs and shorts, etc. No real PPE.
Thus many contract the CORONA virus.
Now in the Doco, there WAS A LAB (Clinic) set up not far from the caves NEAR Wuhan to treat the workers for the virus.
There were also Researchers, but they could afford proper PPE, although some still contracted the virus.
These Workers also went to the WET MARKETS in Wuhan.
#This is the connection#
The Wet Markets AT THAT TIME, were filthy and unsanitised. Discarded flesh, entrails - the works. Would lay all over the streets, hosed into gutters at most. The Markets stank, but it was like a cultural pride of toughness.
Under festering sun, the rot degenerated and add the workers taking the Corona virus to the Markets, The VIRUS IS ABLE TO MUTATE. Thus a more deadlier strain is able to find its niche and it did.
All Pandemics have evolved from some form of unhygienic circumstance.
I have no doubt the Lab/Clinic DID NOT create a deadly version, regardless of its practice to understand the Corona virus for treatment.
Especially when big FILTHY nations like China, the USA and others would find their quality of living (the Poor) becoming a very expensive accountability.
Therefore, blaming Science, Communists and a Lab for fabricating the virus is a far far less expensive 'blame' to point the finger at.

Can you see countries that have filthy living conditions that can give rise to Viruses, Pandemics, etc admit to such?
Hell no!
Blaming a lab is cost effective and dismisses their filthy living conditions as something, by Law, that they have to clean up their act.

I could add that the HAN Chinese gene pool in Wuhan is a very shallow pool, that lacks genetic variation, diversity and thus more susceptible for a Virus to easily crack the genetic code for a break and enter. A case of national inbreeding.

Like I said. This doco was a few years before 2019

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Reply #1480 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 7:51pm

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/03/opinion/covid-lab-leak.html

Why the Pandemic Probably Started in a Lab, in 5 Key Points

By Alina Chan
Dr. Chan is a molecular biologist at the Broad Institute of M.I.T. and Harvard, and a co-author of “Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19.”

June 3, 2024

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This article has been updated to reflect news developments.

On Monday, Dr. Anthony Fauci returned to the halls of Congress and testified before the House subcommittee investigating the Covid-19 pandemic. He was questioned about several topics related to the government’s handling of Covid-19, including how the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which he directed until retiring in 2022, supported risky virus work at a Chinese institute whose research may have caused the pandemic.

For more than four years, reflexive partisan politics have derailed the search for the truth about a catastrophe that has touched us all. It has been estimated that at least 25 million people around the world have died because of Covid-19, with over a million of those deaths in the United States.

Although how the pandemic started has been hotly debated, a growing volume of evidence — gleaned from public records released under the Freedom of Information Act, digital sleuthing through online databases, scientific papers analyzing the virus and its spread, and leaks from within the U.S. government — suggests that the pandemic most likely occurred because a virus escaped from a research lab in Wuhan, China. If so, it would be the most costly accident in the history of science.

Here’s what we now know:

1The SARS-like virus that caused the pandemic emerged in Wuhan, the city where the world’s foremost research lab for SARS-like viruses is located.
At the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a team of scientists had been hunting for SARS-like viruses for over a decade, led by Shi Zhengli.
Their research showed that the viruses most similar to SARS‑CoV‑2, the virus that caused the pandemic, circulate in bats that live roughly 1,000 miles away from Wuhan. Scientists from Dr. Shi’s team traveled repeatedly to Yunnan province to collect these viruses and had expanded their search to Southeast Asia. Bats in other parts of China have not been found to carry viruses that are as closely related to SARS-CoV-2.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47087 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1481 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 8:46pm The lab did not study or work on covid19. This is just speculation by the NYT. It omitted the swab study too. The virus arose at the Wuhan wet market.
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Reply #1482 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 8:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 8:46pm:

The lab did not study or work on covid19.

This is just speculation by the NYT. It omitted the swab study too.

The virus arose at the Wuhan wet market.

And of course you know more than the New York Times? Roll Eyes

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47087 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1483 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 8:58pm But that article is just speculation, not factual. Nothing wrong with that—speculation is all we have without facts. The article tho did not mention the swabs.
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Reply #1484 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 9:02pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 8:58pm:

But that article is just speculation, not factual.

Nothing wrong with that—speculation is all we have without facts. The article tho did not mention the swabs.

The fact is that what started out as a Fringe idea and with YouTube videos deleted about it
has now become mainstream -
and who was first on to it? -
brave sir Bobby -
capable of critical thinking.

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