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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46665 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1515 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 7:52am No, you served up nonsense on a plate. We know covid19 was not created in the Wuhan lab.
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Reply #1516 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 8:05am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

It has something similar to parts of the AIDS virus.

Covid19 did NOT originate in the Wuhan lab. We KNOW this, you are too stupid, too emotionally bound up in “Fauci paid to develop a biological weapon” to carefully consider the actual, real evidence we now have.

And you know the origins bedwetter because MSM told you so Cheesy

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Reply #1517 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 8:09am

Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 8:05am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 6:36am:

It has something similar to parts of the AIDS virus.

Covid19 did NOT originate in the Wuhan lab. We KNOW this, you are too stupid, too emotionally bound up in “Fauci paid to develop a biological weapon” to carefully consider the actual, real evidence we now have.

And you know the origins bedwetter because MSM told you so Cheesy

LOL

Hi sir Nail,
Monk is very gullible - he trusts his TV and radio news.
We knew what was going on over 3 years ago but he still
believes Covid-19 was from animals. Roll Eyes

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Reply #1518 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 8:14am

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 7:45am:

No, we know the Wuhan lab did not study the covid19 virus.

Guess your “experts” are wrong.

You sure about biolabs in Ukraine?

You got AID's bedwetter. Next time don't let strangers inject their mRNA sh.t into you and you will live lonbger Wink

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Basically SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine is HIV 2.0. The Rubicon has been crossed and there is no turning back. “They lied, many died!” 1

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46665 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1519 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 8:35am LOL! I don’t have a TV and have no radio set up either. BUT I am intelligent and I am educated You two nitwits can’t say the same thing.
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Reply #1520 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 10:14am

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Abstract
This paper has been withdrawn by its authors. They intend to revise it in response to comments received from the research community on their technical approach and their interpretation of the results. If you have any questions, please contact the corresponding author.

https://pubpeer.com/publications/D1A6196323AD28C08311A3D3EF426E?utm_source=Chrom...

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46665 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1521 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 10:19am And I repeat: covid19 was not a virus studied or created at the Wuhan lab. The “Burning Platform” article is just an article not a scientific paper.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30087 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1522 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 10:24am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 10:19am: And I repeat: covid19 was not a virus studied or created at the Wuhan lab. The “Burning Platform” article is just an article not a scientific paper. You know this for a certainty do you ? BTW Are you still wearing a mask ?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46665 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1523 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 10:56am I LOOKED at the article, radical I know!
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Reply #1524 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 11:15am

Nail and Bobbi have entered this with the preconceived notion that it is a Chinese Biological Weapons program, without requiring any evidence.

The reasons for this are unclear.

It is convenient to have a scapegoat for the hardships endured during lockdowns. This might be the reason, or perhaps it is because Trump said so. Again, who knows.

Their starting point is a belief in this theory.

This sets the threshold for supporting evidence or proof to anything that aligns with their belief extremely low, and anything to the contrary, no matter how reliable the source, is dismissed as part of a conspiracy to conceal the "truth".

It's a futile endeavour. They have consciously chosen to filter what they consider to be truth, reliable, or a trustworthy source based on how closely the content aligns with their pre-existing beliefs.

They are selectively accepting what is real based on whether it confirms their biases.

There is no penetrating that. They are, and will continue to, substitute reality with their own.

It's pointless to try to convince them otherwise.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46665 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1525 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 11:21am Yup. Is funny tho, sometimes. I show the covid19 virus was not worked on in the Wuhan lab. This morning I ask Booby where the virus was created—Wuhan lab he says!
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Reply #1526 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 11:46am

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 11:15am:

Nail and Bobbi have entered this with the preconceived notion that it is a Chinese Biological Weapons program, without requiring any evidence.

The reasons for this are unclear.

It is convenient to have a scapegoat for the hardships endured during lockdowns. This might be the reason, or perhaps it is because Trump said so. Again, who knows.

Their starting point is a belief in this theory.

This sets the threshold for supporting evidence or proof to anything that aligns with their belief extremely low, and anything to the contrary, no matter how reliable the source, is dismissed as part of a conspiracy to conceal the "truth".

It's a futile endeavour. They have consciously chosen to filter what they consider to be truth, reliable, or a trustworthy source based on how closely the content aligns with their pre-existing beliefs.

They are selectively accepting what is real based on whether it confirms their biases.

There is no penetrating that. They are, and will continue to, substitute reality with their own.

It's pointless to try to convince them otherwise.

dear Mr Sad,
many blessings.
May I suggest you go back to the previous page 101 - and read:

Reply #1500
Reply #1502
Reply #1504
Reply #1511

I'm the one supplying some great evidence.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46665 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1527 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 11:50am The paper you found was not published due comments in peer review.
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Reply #1528 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 1:41pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 11:50am:

The paper you found was not published due comments in peer review.

It says:
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v2
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This paper has been withdrawn by its authors. They intend to revise it in response to comments received from the research community on their technical approach and their interpretation of the results. If you have any questions, please contact the corresponding author.

That's OK - that happens to many papers - more than you'd think -
it doesn't mean that the facts presented in it are wrong.

forgiven

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Reply #1529 - Dec 12^th, 2024 at 3:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 12^th, 2024 at 11:46am:

dear Mr Sad,
many blessings.
May I suggest you go back to the previous page 101 - and read:

Reply #1500
Reply #1502
Reply #1504
Reply #1511

I'm the one supplying some great evidence.

Reply #1500:

"To be clear, science demonstrated that COVID-19 was laboratory-created, possibly as a bioweapon, and that the creator of the virus used GP120 to do so; a glycoprotein from the HIV-1 1990s era that tied back to Fauci. This statement is the most damning:"

"science demonstrated" yet nothing was cited in the Civilian Intelligence Network opinion piece by Shawn Paul Melville to support that.

The claim has been thoroughly debunked multiple times, most comprehensively here:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/may/12/jerome-corsi/conspiracy-theori...

So this is not "evidence", it's simply an unfounded claim proven to be incorrect.

Reply #1502

"Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag"

The paper that initially made this claim was withdrawn by its authors due to significant criticism from the scientific community regarding their methodology and interpretation of results. Subsequent research has shown that the similarities are not unique to HIV-1 and can be found in other coronaviruses as well. This notion has been widely discredited by experts in the field.

Again another unfounded claim that has also been proven to be incorrect.

Not "evidence".

Reply #1504

Trying to get to the original source had me hit a dead end at an archived article on Zerohedge by Tyler Durden protected by a paywall.

So again, likely another opinion piece given it was penned by a fictional character from fightclub on a site that, given its history and the nature of its content, ZeroHedge is not generally considered a mainstream or trustworthy source for unbiased news.

So again, opinion, not "evidence".

Reply #1511

Did you watch the video? It says nothing about US Funded bioweapons research facilities in Ukraine and the whole interview with Bolton was about the risk of US Allies sharing sensitive intelligence with them, in this case, that the US and Ukraine have partnered through the Pentagon's Biological Threat Reduction Program since 2005. This program aims to support peaceful and safe biological detection and diagnostic capabilities and to reduce the threats posed by pathogens.

It has nothing to do with bioweapons research, it is about public health and biodefense.

This is just straight-up misinformation traced back to QAnon.

Again, not "evidence".

Bobbi, you continuing to call absolute bullshit claims that have been thoroughly debunked "evidence" only weakens your position, and proves my claims about you to be correct.

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