Australian Politics Forum - China's covert biological weapons program

Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104584 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1575 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 2:28pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 2:18pm: . . .Waiting! many blessings - you'll have to look for yourself - 105 pages now - it will be quite a journey of exciting discovery for you.
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Reply #1576 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 2:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 11:26am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 7:03am:

STILL trying to make the Wuhan lab the culprit!

You never learn, do you? Typical of those with low intelligence and no education someone sells you a plausible–seeming theory—man made virus, GSM—and you go on an orgy of finding –anything– that can be thought to support that theory. No objectivity, no critical thinking.

There certainly is no critical thinking on your part in the 100-page compilation of crap that is this thread.

Then you say the stinking pile of crap that is this thread is Walkley Award material????

I should have got an Ozpolitic award for journalistic excellence -

we now have 105 pages of evidence thanks to me -
that is much more than any book and shall serve as a valuable reference for decades to come.

I will add that I have also copied and pasted quite a bit from those links so
when the information is deleted one day by the Ministry of Truth -
it will still be here. Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46639 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1577 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 2:42pm So, you got no evidence re gain of function research, OK that is what I thought.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104584 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1578 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 3:26pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 2:42pm: So, you got no evidence re gain of function research, OK that is what I thought. You are being disingenuous - you haven't read even 1% of my links. You're just a troll.
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Reply #1579 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 3:46pm

No, I looked at most of the crap articles you posted. Worthless.

The crap you posted is invalidated by the swabs and the publishing of the virus genomes studied at the Wuhan lab.

What you have posted is:

1. Irrelevant. Nothing there is directly relevant to the virus

2. Wrong. Like the gain of function—not done at the Wuhan lab.

3. Airy fairy—what politicians said etc. People who are not scientists and have never been to Wuhan let alone the lab.

You might think this has some value but believe me it is just a waste of time.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46639 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1580 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 3:52pm And I notice you have not provided a shred of evidence re gain of function that can withstand at least a surface scan.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104584 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1581 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 3:55pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 14^th, 2024 at 3:52pm: And I notice you have not provided a shred of evidence re gain of function that can withstand at least a surface scan. Get off this thread and let me get on with uncovering the awful truth. This work is not for the faint hearted.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46639 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1582 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 4:15pm This thread is complete. The lab at Wuhan did not work on covid19 or do gain of function research and the virus arose at the Wuhan wet market. Just piling up irrelevant crap is over.
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Reply #1583 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 4:24pm

We are even doing it in Australia too. WTF?

https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/gain-function-research-review-rep...

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Gain-of-function research in Australia

Over the last 10 years, the Australian Government has funded or conducted 17 research projects that were identified in this review as gain-of-function research that could increase the harmfulness of an infectious agent to humans (also described as ‘gain-of-function research of concern’). These projects comprise less than 0.3% of the more than 6000 infectious disease research projects that were funded or conducted by Australian Government agencies in the same period.

Of the 17 research projects identified, 10 were funded by NHMRC and 8 were conducted by the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO); one project was both funded by NHMRC and conducted by CSIRO. Information about the projects is presented in general terms and, where appropriate, aggregated form. This approach is necessary to protect researchers from potentially serious threats to their personal and professional lives, as has been experienced by scientists around the world in the context of COVID-19.

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Reply #1584 - Dec 14^th, 2024 at 5:48pm

From your article:

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Of the 17 research projects, 13 involved virological studies and 4 involved bacteriological studies. The research projects aimed to achieve benefits for human health including better understanding of viral and bacterial infections and how to detect, prevent and treat these infections. In all cases, the controls required under Australia’s regulatory framework for the safe and ethical conduct of research, including biosecurity and biosafety, were in place. All projects were conducted in appropriate physical containment facilities with the required approvals or licences. The projects were monitored appropriately and there were no reported incidents involving infectious agents or GMOs during the conduct of the projects.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48163 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1585 - Dec 15^th, 2024 at 9:30am Monk has worms again. He's got that itch that he scratches with his left index finger.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46639 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1586 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:25am So I guess not all gain-of-function research is bioweapon related.
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SadKangaroo Moderator Offline #FightStupid Posts: 17264 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1587 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 9:25am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:25am: So I guess not all gain-of-function research is bioweapon related. I'd flip it the other way. Gain of function research is overwhelmingly not about bioweapons. But it's not without risk.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1588 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 11:49am

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 9:25am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:25am:

So I guess not all gain-of-function research is bioweapon related.

I'd flip it the other way. Gain of function research is overwhelmingly not about bioweapons.

But it's not without risk.

It's very risky and I have tried but I have failed to see
how it could be of any benefit to the human race.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 46639 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1589 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:00pm Do some systematic reading on it, Booby. That is the best advice I can give.
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