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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1590 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 11:49am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 9:25am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:25am:

So I guess not all gain-of-function research is bioweapon related.

I'd flip it the other way. Gain of function research is overwhelmingly not about bioweapons.

But it's not without risk.

It's very risky and I have tried but I have failed to see
how it could be of any benefit to the human race.

Did you try though? It takes 30 seconds to find this info:

Gain-of-function (GoF) research involves studying organisms, often pathogens, by enhancing their properties, such Quote:

as transmissibility, host range, or virulence. The goal is typically to better understand how certain traits evolve or to predict how a virus or bacteria might behave in the future, enabling the development of effective countermeasures like vaccines or treatments.

Types of Gain-of-Function Research:

Virological Studies: Altering viruses to assess their pandemic potential or resistance to treatment.

Agricultural Studies: Modifying plants or pests to understand resilience mechanisms or vulnerabilities.

Basic Science: Exploring genetic pathways to understand disease mechanisms or evolutionary processes.

The Benefits of GoF:

Pandemic Preparedness: It helps identify mutations that could make a virus more dangerous, enabling preemptive action.

Drug and Vaccine Development: By mimicking potential future strains, scientists can develop therapeutics that are robust against a wider range of threats.

Improved Understanding of Pathogenesis: Insights into how diseases function can inform broader biomedical research.

As I said, it's not without risk of Accidental Release or Bioterrorism, but they're the risks, not the goals, and when conducted responsibly under strict biosafety protocols, it can yield invaluable insights for global health.

Do the benefits outweigh the risks, so far yes. Especially when the notion of COVID-19 being a result of the lab leak is only at this stage a hypothetical theory for which there is no evidence to support, no matter how many time you repeat the claim.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105087 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1591 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:37pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:00pm: Do some systematic reading on it, Bobby. That is the best advice I can give. Monk, can't you see that they are mad scientists who endanger the whole world? What if one of their evil viruses escapes again?
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1592 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:40pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

As I said, it's not without risk of Accidental Release or Bioterrorism, but they're the risks, not the goals, and when conducted responsibly under strict biosafety protocols, it can yield invaluable insights for global health.

Do the benefits outweigh the risks, so far yes. Especially when the notion of COVID-19 being a result of the lab leak is only at this stage a hypothetical theory for which there is no evidence to support, no matter how many time you repeat the claim.

Hi Mr Sad,
it's too dangerous.
It was made illegal in the USA so Fauci transferred it to Wuhan and Ukraine -
as if that would make it any less dangerous. Roll Eyes

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47066 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1593 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:21pm {Sigh} Transferred what to Wuhan?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105087 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1594 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 6:10pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:21pm: {Sigh} Transferred what to Wuhan? So you haven't actually read this thread? Fauci transferred money and forbidden gene splicing technology to Wuhan.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47066 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1595 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:29pm Says who? What did the Wuhan lab actually do? Remember, we are 99% sure that the lab was NOT the source of covid. I do not see the US contracting a Chinese lab in China to develop a biological weapon, does not make sense, right?
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1596 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:32pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:29pm:

Says who?

What did the Wuhan lab actually do? Remember, we are 99% sure that the lab was NOT the source of covid.

I do not see the US contracting a Chinese lab in China to develop a biological weapon, does not make sense, right?

Just wait for Fauci's trial for crimes against humanity.

Trump will get it done.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47066 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1597 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:34pm WHAT crimes? I get the 80yo baby wants vengeance but he needs to follow the letter of the law.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105087 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1598 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:35pm Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:34pm: WHAT crimes? I get the 80yo baby wants vengeance but he needs to follow the letter of the law. Crimes against humanity: making a bio weapon that killed 7 million people.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47066 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1599 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:38pm But we KNOW that was not done in the Wuhan lab and we have very solid evidence now, the swabs and the viral genomes, that the virus arose in the Wuhan wet market! Your 100+ pages of crap have no worth.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1600 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:40pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:38pm:

But we KNOW that was not done in the Wuhan lab and we have very solid evidence now, the swabs and the viral genomes, that the virus arose in the Wuhan wet market!

Your 100+ pages of crap have no worth.

107 pages of solid evidence -

much of it will be used by the prosecution in court.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47066 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1601 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:51pm You have posted no real evidence. No matter how many pages you fill with crap it does not make that crap real. The scientist at the Wuhan lab sequenced the genomes of the viruses studied there. Covid19 was NOT one of the viruses. This is actual evidence as was the evidence from the swabs.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1602 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 2:38pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 7:51pm:

You have posted no real evidence. No matter how many pages you fill with crap it does not make that crap real.

The scientist at the Wuhan lab sequenced the genomes of the viruses studied there. Covid19 was NOT one of the viruses. This is actual evidence as was the evidence from the swabs.

Monk,
you sound like an apologist for the CCP. Embarrassed

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47066 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #1603 - Dec 18^th, 2024 at 3:55pm How so, when you claim, without a shred of evidence, that Fauci directed/contracted the Wuhan lab to make covid19. Fauci, as we now know, did no such thing.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1604 - Dec 19^th, 2024 at 11:42am

It is funny to watch people like Bobbi who are used to echo chamber support crumble under the most basic of questions, in this case to simply detail the claim he made.

Light used to to that all the time.

You ask for a clarification on something he said and he's try to burry your question by reposing the same memes over and over.

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