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Reply #1650 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 10:52am
 
Quick search shows the report is based on faulty science.
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Reply #1651 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 10:55am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 10:52am:
Quick search shows the report is based on faulty science.



Link?

Dear Mr SadKangaroo -

please punish Monk for trolling my thread.


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Reply #1652 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:04am
 
Not “your” thread, and I am tearing apart the crap you posted.

One link:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873506120304165
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Reply #1653 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:07am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:04am:
Not “your” thread, and I am tearing apart the crap you posted.



I should receive an Ozpolitic journalist award for excellence.

No one else on this forum backs up their ideas so convincingly
with mountains of evidence:
videos, reports, scientific papers and expert opinions.
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Reply #1654 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:26am
 
Crap backing up crap.

This thread should be printed on toilet paper.

You did not explain and show how that report backed your case. It doesn’t, it is wrong, bad science from non-scientists.
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Reply #1655 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:29am
 
Started a new poll:

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Reply #1656 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:43am
 
God but you are a wanker.
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Reply #1657 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:47am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:43am:
God but you are a wanker.



I'm already winning the 3 day poll - you dickhead.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #1658 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 11:53am
 
That makes you even more of a wanker.
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Reply #1659 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 5:21pm
 
Repugs in the House presented a report on the origin of covid 19. Report dated Dec 4, 2024.

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https://embed.documentcloud.org/documents/25429414-12042024-sscp-final-report/

On page 2 the report states:
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COVID-19 was novel. The brightest scientists and medical experts were learning on the[ ]job to determine how to treat both the underlying disease and the second order side effects.


True enough and inevitably mistakes would have been made especially early in the pandemic. (Pandemic: “A pandemic is an epidemic of an infectious disease that has a sudden increase in cases and spreads across a large region, for instance multiple continents ...” (wiki))

One conclusion with bipartisan support on page 3:
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1) The possibility that COVID-19 emerged because of[ ]a laboratory or research related[ ]accident is not[ ]a conspiracy theory.


Does not mean that is what happened, of course.

Booby’s favorite boogyman gets a mention (p3)
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1) The U.S. National Institutes of Health funded gain-of-function research at the WuhanInstitute of Virology.


We see that escape of an enhanced virus escaping from the lab is the result the repugs wanted.

Getting into the nitty gritty the report states (p40)
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In January 2024, Mr. Wade voiced his increasing support for a lab incident origin.14 Mr.Wade astutely noted that “SARS2 possesses a furin cleavage site, found in none of the other 871[ ]known members of its viral family, so it cannot have gained such a site through the ordinary[ ]evolutionary swaps of genetic material within a family.”15 With the natural evolution of a furin[ ]cleavage site being nonexistent, Mr. Wade further noted that EcoHealth and the WIV’s DEFUSEproposal, which was rejected by DARPA, sought to do what nature had not been ever known todo—insert a furin cleavage site into a SARS2 virus.16 It is, therefore, more than just a[ ]coincidence that COVID-19 emerged from the city with a lab preparing to conduct this research[ ]under cost-effective yet risky BSL-2 protocols.17


The wet market as origin is discounted in the report:
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Fourth, the evidence supporting that COVID-19 came from an animal at the Huanan[ ]Seafood Market in Wuhan is tenuous.26 Dr. Chan points of that “the existing genetic and early[ ]case data show that all known COVID-19 cases probably stem from a single introduction of[ ]SARS-CoV-2 into people, and the outbreak at the Wuhan market probably happened after the[ ]virus had already been circulating in humans.”27 Furthermore, no infected animal has been[ ]verified at the Wuhan market or its supply chain.28


Ummm, there were TWO separate varieties of the covid19 virus, labelled A and B, not many samples were intermediate—so TWO releases of the virus from the lab? And the wet market was closed and live animals removed.

Also the first cases were all from people who worked or shopped at the wet market.

However, the killer evidence the committee found was “the natural evolution of a furin[ ]cleavage site being nonexistent.”

Now, was going to explain what a cleavage site was in DNA—gets complicated immediately. Not essential anyway. Will just post this:

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SARS-CoV-2 entry requires sequential cleavage of the spike glycoprotein at the S1/S2 and the S2ʹ cleavage sites to mediate membrane fusion. SARS-CoV-2 has a polybasic insertion (PRRAR) at the S1/S2 cleavage site that can be cleaved by furin.27 Apr 2021

The furin cleavage site in the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is ...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-021-00908-w

Now, the lab origin theory requires that the furin cleavage site was artificially created. Unfortunately for the theory:
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Furin cleavage sites naturally occur in coronaviruses

Yiran Wu a
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Suwen Zhao


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873506120304165

So the presence of furin cleavage sites in corona viruses happens naturally and this report by the HoR subcommittee fails to make the case the covid19 virus has an artificial origin.
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Reply #1660 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 5:24pm
 
The post above is what is needed to argue a particular origin of covid19.

Booby just said “This agrees with what I believe” and posted the article on the committee’s finding uncritically.
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Reply #1661 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 6:32pm
 

Dear Monk,
many blessings.
one such as I am
exposes the darkness without permission
or approval yes this work is not for the faint
hearted beloved ones ... and this is why and
from the energy in which I emanate in whom I am
as a humble servant in the divine
and sacred LIGHT as we continue
to monitor all thoughts word
and deed, and so it is

namaste
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Reply #1662 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 6:34pm
 
It just goes on, p42:
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As Mr. Ratcliffe testified, the ledger on the side of lab leak is full of convincing evidencewhile the spillover side is nearly empty. Since January 2020, the body of evidence has onlygrown stronger in support of a lab leak theory.


Yet the analysis of the swabs was known. And the genomes of the viruses studied at the lab is now known, casting more doubt on the report.
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Reply #1663 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 6:32pm:
Dear Monk,
many blessings.
one such as I am
exposes the darkness without permission
or approval yes this work is not for the faint
hearted beloved ones ... and this is why and
from the energy in which I emanate in whom I am
as a humble servant in the divine
and sacred LIGHT as we continue
to monitor all thoughts word
and deed, and so it is

namaste


The usual crap you post when shown to have posted crap. You just posted the article mentioning the report did not look at the report itself. That is not journalism  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #1664 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:20pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 7:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 6:32pm:
Dear Monk,
many blessings.
one such as I am
exposes the darkness without permission
or approval yes this work is not for the faint
hearted beloved ones ... and this is why and
from the energy in which I emanate in whom I am
as a humble servant in the divine
and sacred LIGHT as we continue
to monitor all thoughts word
and deed, and so it is

namaste


The usual crap you post when shown to have posted crap. You just posted the article mentioning the report did not look at the report itself. That is not journalism  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin




many blessings beloved Monk,
there are those upon your world,
when they receive encouragement,
enlightenment, answers
they yet still choose to lament in " what if " scenarios ..
even after receiving the great news and reminders
of that which ye are capable of
carry on regardless as more knowledge regarding your predicament,
is revealed with so very much love.

namaste
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