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Reply #1800 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 4:06am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 16th, 2025 at 9:34pm:
CIA is not a neutral source.

Try thinking things out, not just posting garbage uncritically, high school drop out.



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Reply #1801 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 7:51am
 
Try evaluating what you read before you post.
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Reply #1802 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 10:42am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2025 at 9:05pm:
Monk,
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That conclusion was reached in 2020, what about now in 2025?




The CIA source was January  2025.

Mr Kanga,
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You've posted a lot of nonsense so it's hard to keep track, but can you link to this CIA source in 2025?

The last I had read was that, as of January 2025, the CIA has updated its assessment regarding the origins of COVID-19. The agency now considers a laboratory leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China as the most likely origin of the virus.

However, this conclusion is held with "low confidence," indicating that the information leading to this assessment is not definitive.

So there is still no evidence to prove it so you cannot made these definitive statements that it was a lab leak or bio weapon.

We've been trying to explain this to you for over 5 years now,

KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:31am:
No, you've been saying all along that it "IS" a covert biological weapons program and I've said if you're going to make that claim you need evidence to support it.  I've said it's plausible but without evidence, it's nothing but a hypothesis.

Nothing has changed.


Nothing HAS changed...  You're still using the lack of evidence as if that in and of itself IS evidence.

It's not.

That's not how it works.
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Reply #1803 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 12:35pm
 
Well Mr Kanga,
as my 121 page masterpiece is not good enough for you -

may I suggest that you move my entire thread to the Coronavirus board here?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=corona
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Reply #1804 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 12:40pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Well Mr Kanga,
as my 121 page masterpiece is not good enough for you -

may I suggest that you move my entire thread to the Coronavirus board here?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=corona


You've posted a lot here in here, there's no doubt about that.

But not a lot of, if any, evidence of what you claim is true.

That's always been your problem.  It's your problem today, it was your problem 5 years ago and it will be your problem tomorrow.
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Reply #1805 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 12:43pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Mar 17th, 2025 at 12:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2025 at 12:35pm:
Well Mr Kanga,
as my 121 page masterpiece is not good enough for you -

may I suggest that you move my entire thread to the Coronavirus board here?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=corona


You've posted a lot here in here, there's no doubt about that.

But not a lot of, if any, evidence of what you claim is true.

That's always been your problem.  It's your problem today, it was your problem 5 years ago and it will be your problem tomorrow.



May I suggest that you move my entire thread to the Coronavirus board ?
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Reply #1806 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:00pm
 
That won't fix your lack of evidence.

If you had some, you'd be right, it wouldn't be a fringe topic anymore, it would be a proven claim.
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Reply #1807 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:04pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:00pm:
That won't fix your lack of evidence.

If you had some, you'd be right, it wouldn't be a fringe topic anymore, it would be a proven claim.


But I'm not getting a fair hearing here -

you constantly shoot the messenger -
even top new services like Reuters -
it doesn't matter what I find it's never good enough for you.
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Reply #1808 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:08pm
 
But you never post evidence, THAT is the problem!
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Reply #1809 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:10pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:08pm:
But you never post evidence, THAT is the problem!



You never answer my questions.

Why did China cover up what happened at Wuhan?
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Reply #1810 - Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:04pm:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 17th, 2025 at 1:00pm:
That won't fix your lack of evidence.

If you had some, you'd be right, it wouldn't be a fringe topic anymore, it would be a proven claim.


But I'm not getting a fair hearing here -

you constantly shoot the messenger -
even top new services like Reuters -
it doesn't matter what I find it's never good enough for you.


You are not being unfairly treated.

You started this thread in the Fringe after already posting in the main Corona Virus thread located in the dedicated Coronavirus forum.

The article you linked is from a blog stating,

"Coronavirus Exposed, Part 1: Communist Coverup, or Pandemic Bioweapon of Mass Destruction?"

It explores speculative theories regarding the origins of COVID-19, particularly focusing on the proximity of the Wuhan Institute of Virology to the outbreak site, and the suggestion that the virus could be a bioweapon. However, the article stops short of making any definitive conclusions on these theories.

What you've done since is claim to have provided evidence supporting the veracity of these and other similar claims, yet none of that evidence actually substantiates the assertions you’ve made.

While these theories may be plausible, they remain unproven.

In some cases, you’ve taken this even further, using the lack of proof to suggest that this is evidence of a cover-up, and therefore, what you believe must be true.

You are free to hold those beliefs, but once you begin to make definitive statements about what is or isn't real, and cannot substantiate them, you will be called out, just as anyone else would.

You’re encouraged to share your opinions and theories here, that’s the purpose of this forum. But when you transition from speculation into declaring what is and isn't true, you’ll be asked to provide proof.

Until we have definitive evidence, what we're dealing with are theories, not established facts. We don’t yet know the precise origin of SARS-CoV-2.

To illustrate, I could follow the same logic and claim that COVID was deliberately released by Trump, in China, to implicate them, destabilise the global economy, and divert attention away from the faltering economic indicators under his watch.

Much of that is based in truth, the US economy was indeed starting to struggle before the virus appeared, it originated in China, and the global economic damage provided cover for US economic performance.

But that's where reasonable speculation stops.

I could then go a step further and argue, "Trump covered it up, that's why there’s no evidence of him ordering the release of the virus, therefore, it must be true." That’s exactly the sort of leap you’re making.

Would you accept this as definitive proof that COVID was released by Trump to cover his failures?

No, of course not, because it’s not proof.

But that’s precisely what you expect of us regarding China. Then you throw a tantrum when you're called out?

Come on, Bobby, get real...
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Reply #1811 - Mar 18th, 2025 at 3:33pm
 
LOL, the high school dropout is pretending my comments here are me favoring the CCP. What a loser!
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Reply #1812 - Mar 18th, 2025 at 3:35pm
 
Monk has been an apologist for the CCP -
the Chinese Communist Party.
He has been re-instated as a cultural Marxist.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1660808671/1542#1542


Evidence:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 6:40pm:
Monk,
why did the Chinese and the Yanks destroy all records
before the WHO could get their hands on them ?





Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
Who cares, Boobhead?

The Chinese would have done it to save “face”

which Sad Kangaroo explained really well but you didn’t read it, did you?

The US? Did they? Who in particular did and does it really matter now we know the wet market was the source of covid19?
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Reply #1813 - Mar 18th, 2025 at 4:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 18th, 2025 at 3:35pm:
Monk has been an apologist for the CCP -
the Chinese Communist Party.
He has been re-instated as a cultural Marxist.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1660808671/1542#1542


Evidence:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 6:40pm:
Monk,
why did the Chinese and the Yanks destroy all records
before the WHO could get their hands on them ?





Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
Who cares, Boobhead?

The Chinese would have done it to save “face”

which Sad Kangaroo explained really well but you didn’t read it, did you?

The US? Did they? Who in particular did and does it really matter now we know the wet market was the source of covid19?


I'm convinced now that you don't know what evidence is.

The question remains, is that because you're stupid or is it by choice?

You asked him a question, in the context of the exchange you two were having, to explain why China would destroy the records with the US that you claim. An action that you'd taken to mean they were covering up a crime and if Monk couldn't provide a viable alternative that this makes your claim true by default:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
All the records have been destroyed by the USA and China
so that the WHO could not investigate it.

We'll never know for sure now.
It's the greatest coverup of crime in human history -

the murder of 7 million people
and the economic loss of at least US$40 trillion.


The problem for you is, Monk did answer with an alternative theory, which was for them to save face and not be seen to capitulate with the west.  Could they have been covering something up, sure, but like you said,

Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
We'll never know for sure now.


Exactly.

Since Monk's answer is just as plausible as your theory, you're now trying to discredit him since you can't prove your theory true.

If you think answering your question makes him an CCP apologist, when all he suggested was a theory just as valid as yours, then it doesn't say much about your position now does it?
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Reply #1814 - Mar 18th, 2025 at 4:24pm
 
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If you think answering your question makes him an CCP apologist.


He is a CCP apologist.

He should have said -

yes Bobby - I agree with you -
if there was nothing to hide the CCP would have allowed a full independent inquiry.
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