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Reply #225 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 9:16am
 
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 8:59am:
It still remains a possibility yes.

But claims that it "is" require evidence, something that is yet not available.


There were rumors lab animals from the facility were sold out the back door to street vendors, no proof but knowing how that part of the world works, I find it totally plausible.

If it was an accidental escape from their facility, there will never be proof and the world will never know because anyone involved would already be in a ditch on the outside of town with a hole in the back of their head.

 
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Reply #226 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:11am
 
Yeah, it is totally plausible that's what makes it so interesting.
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Reply #227 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:13am
 
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:11am:
Yeah, it is totally plausible that's what makes it so interesting.



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Reply #228 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:15am
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 9:16am:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 8:59am:
It still remains a possibility yes.

But claims that it "is" require evidence, something that is yet not available.


There were rumors lab animals from the facility were sold out the back door to street vendors, no proof but knowing how that part of the world works, I find it totally plausible.

If it was an accidental escape from their facility, there will never be proof and the world will never know because anyone involved would already be in a ditch on the outside of town with a hole in the back of their head.

 



34,617 people dead in the USA right now.

Wars have been started over less.

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Reply #229 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:31am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:13am:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:11am:
Yeah, it is totally plausible that's what makes it so interesting.



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No, you've been saying all along that it "IS" a covert biological weapons program and I've said if you're going to make that claim you need evidence to support it.  I've said it's plausible but without evidence, it's nothing but a hypothesis.

Nothing has changed.

It's also plausible that Trump created the virus, has a covert ops team release it in China because he'd tanked the US economy, the only positive he keeps turning to and it wasn't going to last the election campaign so he has brought the world to its knees all to help him be a "war time" president and win, or even cancel the next election.

For it to have the most impact he also needed to do nothing and let it infect his people, just enough, so he can swoop in and claim to be the hero who saved the day.  Remember, while his inaction leads to the infection of nearly 700,000+ people and the deaths as of now, of over 35,000, he can still claims to have saved over 2 million lives if he keeps pushing the narrative that 2.2 million would die if he did nothing.

So yeah, it's plausible that Trump is world enemy #1 and let his ego kill hundreds of thousands of people and destroy the lives and livelihood of millions, even billions more just so he wouldn't lose the next election.

It's an inside job, like 9/11.

There is the same amount of evidence for both claims and while I'm sure you think the Trump theory above is batshit crazy, just remember it's in the same category, evidence wise, the Chinese Biological Weapons Program and 5G being the cause.


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Reply #230 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:49am
 
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:13am:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:11am:
Yeah, it is totally plausible that's what makes it so interesting.



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No, you've been saying all along that it "IS" a covert biological weapons program and I've said if you're going to make that claim you need evidence to support it.  I've said it's plausible but without evidence, it's nothing but a hypothesis.

Nothing has changed.

It's also plausible that Trump created the virus, has a covert ops team release it in China because he'd tanked the US economy, the only positive he keeps turning to and it wasn't going to last the election campaign so he has brought the world to its knees all to help him be a "war time" president and win, or even cancel the next election.

For it to have the most impact he also needed to do nothing and let it infect his people, just enough, so he can swoop in and claim to be the hero who saved the day.  Remember, while his inaction leads to the infection of nearly 700,000+ people and the deaths as of now, of over 35,000, he can still claims to have saved over 2 million lives if he keeps pushing the narrative that 2.2 million would die if he did nothing.

So yeah, it's plausible that Trump is world enemy #1 and let his ego kill hundreds of thousands of people and destroy the lives and livelihood of millions, even billions more just so he wouldn't lose the next election.

It's an inside job, like 9/11.

There is the same amount of evidence for both claims and while I'm sure you think the Trump theory above is batshit crazy, just remember it's in the same category, evidence wise, the Chinese Biological Weapons Program and 5G being the cause.




You say some fair and balanced things at times, but when it comes to anything to do with Trump your impartiality goes right down the dunny.

Growth rate under Trump has been high but volatile compared to the  Obamas years but unemployment has been much lower. It's not as Trump claims the best it's ever been, but it's good.

Now as for Trump deliberately releasing a bio-weapon in China, unless he was capable of doing it 100% himself, do you think REALLY think American scientists would be complicit in such an operation?

I find it much more plausible that China, having been kicked in the balls over their trade negotiations released the virus themselves and accepted the collateral damage knowing it would spread throughout the world yet leave them in a very strong position to economically prey on the world.

Nothing China does would surprise me as we know they plan generations ahead, not by election cycles like we do.
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Reply #231 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 12:02pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:49am:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:13am:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:11am:
Yeah, it is totally plausible that's what makes it so interesting.



An admission now that the thread I started has
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No, you've been saying all along that it "IS" a covert biological weapons program and I've said if you're going to make that claim you need evidence to support it.  I've said it's plausible but without evidence, it's nothing but a hypothesis.

Nothing has changed.

It's also plausible that Trump created the virus, has a covert ops team release it in China because he'd tanked the US economy, the only positive he keeps turning to and it wasn't going to last the election campaign so he has brought the world to its knees all to help him be a "war time" president and win, or even cancel the next election.

For it to have the most impact he also needed to do nothing and let it infect his people, just enough, so he can swoop in and claim to be the hero who saved the day.  Remember, while his inaction leads to the infection of nearly 700,000+ people and the deaths as of now, of over 35,000, he can still claims to have saved over 2 million lives if he keeps pushing the narrative that 2.2 million would die if he did nothing.

So yeah, it's plausible that Trump is world enemy #1 and let his ego kill hundreds of thousands of people and destroy the lives and livelihood of millions, even billions more just so he wouldn't lose the next election.

It's an inside job, like 9/11.

There is the same amount of evidence for both claims and while I'm sure you think the Trump theory above is batshit crazy, just remember it's in the same category, evidence wise, the Chinese Biological Weapons Program and 5G being the cause.




You say some fair and balanced things at times, but when it comes to anything to do with Trump your impartiality goes right down the Dunny.


I'll stop you there because it was an outrageous and deliberately overblown statement for effect.

Trump has presided over continued economic growth but his debt has ballooned and his signature economic policies have not delivered, but it's hardly "tanked".  It was for, shall we say, dramatic effect when it comes to the obviously made up conspiracy theory.

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Now as for Trump deliberately releasing a bio-weapon in China, unless he was capable of doing it 100% himself, do you think REALLY think American scientists would be complicit in such an operation?


No, I don't.  I made it up to show the absurdity of it all.

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I find it much more plausible that China, having been kicked in the balls over their trade negotiations released the virus themselves and accepted the collateral damage knowing it would spread throughout the world yet leave them in a very strong position to economically prey on the world.

Nothing China does would surprise me as we know they plan generations ahead, not by election cycles like we do.


Well yeah, it would be more plausible that if this wasn't natural or even accidental in nature, that if any government would release it on their own people, it would be China.

But the point was that none of this is evidence, that's all Smiley
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Reply #232 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 12:11pm
 
Your premise was the economy has tanked. I do agree the US economy has become more stratified but that's been a 20+ year trend under both flavors of politics, but things have been going too well enough.

Anyway, as the world is slowly moving out of crisis mode which seems to be happening there will be a resounding international call, China, you've got some 'splaining to do.

Do you think we'll be satisfied with their answers?
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Reply #233 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:30pm
 
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I made it up to show the absurdity of it all.



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Reply #234 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:35pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:13am:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:11am:
Yeah, it is totally plausible that's what makes it so interesting.



An admission now that the thread I started has
some credibility.

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No, you've been saying all along that it "IS" a covert biological weapons program and I've said if you're going to make that claim you need evidence to support it.  I've said it's plausible but without evidence, it's nothing but a hypothesis.

Nothing has changed.

It's also plausible that Trump created the virus, has a covert ops team release it in China because he'd tanked the US economy, the only positive he keeps turning to and it wasn't going to last the election campaign so he has brought the world to its knees all to help him be a "war time" president and win, or even cancel the next election.

For it to have the most impact he also needed to do nothing and let it infect his people, just enough, so he can swoop in and claim to be the hero who saved the day.  Remember, while his inaction leads to the infection of nearly 700,000+ people and the deaths as of now, of over 35,000, he can still claims to have saved over 2 million lives if he keeps pushing the narrative that 2.2 million would die if he did nothing.

So yeah, it's plausible that Trump is world enemy #1 and let his ego kill hundreds of thousands of people and destroy the lives and livelihood of millions, even billions more just so he wouldn't lose the next election.

It's an inside job, like 9/11.

There is the same amount of evidence for both claims and while I'm sure you think the Trump theory above is batshit crazy, just remember it's in the same category, evidence wise, the Chinese Biological Weapons Program and 5G being the cause.




The whole Fringe forum is all about being free to
come up with any theory you like.
One day - some of those theories may be proven true.
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Reply #235 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:43pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:35pm:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:13am:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:11am:
Yeah, it is totally plausible that's what makes it so interesting.



An admission now that the thread I started has
some credibility.

forgiven

namaste



No, you've been saying all along that it "IS" a covert biological weapons program and I've said if you're going to make that claim you need evidence to support it.  I've said it's plausible but without evidence, it's nothing but a hypothesis.

Nothing has changed.

It's also plausible that Trump created the virus, has a covert ops team release it in China because he'd tanked the US economy, the only positive he keeps turning to and it wasn't going to last the election campaign so he has brought the world to its knees all to help him be a "war time" president and win, or even cancel the next election.

For it to have the most impact he also needed to do nothing and let it infect his people, just enough, so he can swoop in and claim to be the hero who saved the day.  Remember, while his inaction leads to the infection of nearly 700,000+ people and the deaths as of now, of over 35,000, he can still claims to have saved over 2 million lives if he keeps pushing the narrative that 2.2 million would die if he did nothing.

So yeah, it's plausible that Trump is world enemy #1 and let his ego kill hundreds of thousands of people and destroy the lives and livelihood of millions, even billions more just so he wouldn't lose the next election.

It's an inside job, like 9/11.

There is the same amount of evidence for both claims and while I'm sure you think the Trump theory above is batshit crazy, just remember it's in the same category, evidence wise, the Chinese Biological Weapons Program and 5G being the cause.




The whole Fringe forum is all about being free to
come up with any theory you like.
One day - some of those theories may be proven true.


Here's my theory.

It's a naturally occurring virus the Chinese discovered and this has been confirmed by many sources.

The Chinese discovered it, experimented with it on political prisoners and discovered it was very contagious, mostly kills old people but not a species ender.

They decided to let it infect their own people and let it spread just enough so that it went world wide. They did enough modelling to know how much damage it would do to the world economy but knew with advanced knowledge, they could contain it within China (which if you believe their numbers, they have) and leave them in a very strong position to gain significant economic advantage over the world.
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Reply #236 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:46pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:43pm:
Here's my theory.

It's a naturally occurring virus the Chinese discovered and this has been confirmed by many sources.

The Chinese discovered it, experimented with it on political prisoners and discovered it was very contagious, mostly kills old people but not a species ender.

They decided to let it infect their own people and let it spread just enough so that it went world wide. They did enough modelling to know how much damage it would do to the world economy but knew with advanced knowledge, they could contain it within China (which if you believe their numbers, they have) and leave them in a very strong position to gain significant economic advantage over the world.



That sounds plausible - but of course it's impossible to prove -
anyone involved would have been murdered months ago.
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Reply #237 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 4:27pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:46pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:43pm:
Here's my theory.

It's a naturally occurring virus the Chinese discovered and this has been confirmed by many sources.

The Chinese discovered it, experimented with it on political prisoners and discovered it was very contagious, mostly kills old people but not a species ender.

They decided to let it infect their own people and let it spread just enough so that it went world wide. They did enough modelling to know how much damage it would do to the world economy but knew with advanced knowledge, they could contain it within China (which if you believe their numbers, they have) and leave them in a very strong position to gain significant economic advantage over the world.



That sounds plausible - but of course it's impossible to prove -
anyone involved would have been murdered months ago.


The problem with that theory is that they were relying on Trump being an incompetent halfwit and completely stuffing up the US response to the pandemic

..........actually yes it is plausible
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Reply #238 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 7:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:30pm:
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I made it up to show the absurdity of it all.



Sounds awfully close to a strawman argument.  Embarrassed


Not at all, just shows how easy it is to simply make up a conspiracy theory.
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Reply #239 - Apr 17th, 2020 at 7:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 2:35pm:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:31am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:13am:
KangAnon wrote on Apr 17th, 2020 at 11:11am:
Yeah, it is totally plausible that's what makes it so interesting.



An admission now that the thread I started has
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No, you've been saying all along that it "IS" a covert biological weapons program and I've said if you're going to make that claim you need evidence to support it.  I've said it's plausible but without evidence, it's nothing but a hypothesis.

Nothing has changed.

It's also plausible that Trump created the virus, has a covert ops team release it in China because he'd tanked the US economy, the only positive he keeps turning to and it wasn't going to last the election campaign so he has brought the world to its knees all to help him be a "war time" president and win, or even cancel the next election.

For it to have the most impact he also needed to do nothing and let it infect his people, just enough, so he can swoop in and claim to be the hero who saved the day.  Remember, while his inaction leads to the infection of nearly 700,000+ people and the deaths as of now, of over 35,000, he can still claims to have saved over 2 million lives if he keeps pushing the narrative that 2.2 million would die if he did nothing.

So yeah, it's plausible that Trump is world enemy #1 and let his ego kill hundreds of thousands of people and destroy the lives and livelihood of millions, even billions more just so he wouldn't lose the next election.

It's an inside job, like 9/11.

There is the same amount of evidence for both claims and while I'm sure you think the Trump theory above is batshit crazy, just remember it's in the same category, evidence wise, the Chinese Biological Weapons Program and 5G being the cause.




The whole Fringe forum is all about being free to
come up with any theory you like.
One day - some of those theories may be proven true.


Yeah, exactly.  But until it's proven to be true, expect to get at least some resistance when you claim something already "is" true.
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