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Reply #240 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:43pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 2:43pm:

Here's my theory.

It's a naturally occurring virus the Chinese discovered and this has been confirmed by many sources.

The Chinese discovered it, experimented with it on political prisoners and discovered it was very contagious, mostly kills old people but not a species ender.

They decided to let it infect their own people and let it spread just enough so that it went world wide. They did enough modelling to know how much damage it would do to the world economy but knew with advanced knowledge, they could contain it within China (which if you believe their numbers, they have) and leave them in a very strong position to gain significant economic advantage over the world.

That sounds plausible - but of course it's impossible to prove -
anyone involved would have been murdered months ago.

The problem with that theory is that they were relying on Trump being an incompetent halfwit and completely stuffing up the US response to the pandemic

..........actually yes it is plausible

Regardless of Trump, Americans are susceptible to a pandemic because they're not a compliment people, suspicious of government and arrogant about their ascendancy as a world leader.

I think what's happened in the US was a foregone conclusion.

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Reply #241 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:50pm

KangAnon wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 2:30pm:

Mr Sad,
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I made it up to show the absurdity of it all.

Sounds awfully close to a strawman argument. Embarrassed

Not at all, just shows how easy it is to simply make up a conspiracy theory.

This site says it wasn't made in a lab:

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html

Here's why: SARS-CoV-2 is very closely related to the virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which fanned across the globe nearly 20 years ago. Scientists have studied how SARS-CoV differs from SARS-CoV-2 — with several key letter changes in the genetic code. Yet in computer simulations, the mutations in SARS-CoV-2 don't seem to work very well at helping the virus bind to human cells. If scientists had deliberately engineered this virus, they wouldn't have chosen mutations that computer models suggest won't work. But it turns out, nature is smarter than scientists, and the novel coronavirus found a way to mutate that was better — and completely different— from anything scientists could have created, the study found.

Another nail in the "escaped from evil lab" theory? The overall molecular structure of this virus is distinct from the known coronaviruses and instead most closely resembles viruses found in bats and pangolins that had been little studied and never known to cause humans any harm.

"If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness," according to a statement from Scripps.

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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #242 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:40pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:43pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 2:46pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 2:43pm:

Here's my theory.

It's a naturally occurring virus the Chinese discovered and this has been confirmed by many sources.

The Chinese discovered it, experimented with it on political prisoners and discovered it was very contagious, mostly kills old people but not a species ender.

They decided to let it infect their own people and let it spread just enough so that it went world wide. They did enough modelling to know how much damage it would do to the world economy but knew with advanced knowledge, they could contain it within China (which if you believe their numbers, they have) and leave them in a very strong position to gain significant economic advantage over the world.

That sounds plausible - but of course it's impossible to prove -
anyone involved would have been murdered months ago.

The problem with that theory is that they were relying on Trump being an incompetent halfwit and completely stuffing up the US response to the pandemic

..........actually yes it is plausible

Regardless of Trump, Americans are susceptible to a pandemic because they're not a compliment people, suspicious of government and arrogant about their ascendancy as a world leader.

I think what's happened in the US was a foregone conclusion.

It's a certain type of American that we keep seeing at the protests and flaunting the social distancing rules.

I was thinking, maybe if the US had a strong leader at the moment it might be different, but the last strong leader they had was Obama and these same people would have ignored everything he said so I think you're right, what is happening in the US now is likely to always have been the case.

Sad really.

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Reply #243 - May 1^st, 2020 at 7:32pm

For all those doubting Thomas's who laughed at me -

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52496098

What did Trump say?

At the White House on Thursday, Mr Trump was asked by a reporter: "Have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the origin of this virus?"

"Yes, I have. Yes, I have," said the president, without specifying. "And I think the World Health Organization [WHO] should be ashamed of themselves because they're like the public relations agency for China."

Asked later to clarify his comment, he said: "I can't tell you that. I'm not allowed to tell you that."

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Reply #244 - May 1^st, 2020 at 9:03pm

Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:32pm:

For all those doubting Thomas's who laughed at me -

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52496098

What did Trump say?

At the White House on Thursday, Mr Trump was asked by a reporter: "Have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the origin of this virus?"

"Yes, I have. Yes, I have," said the president, without specifying. "And I think the World Health Organization [WHO] should be ashamed of themselves because they're like the public relations agency for China."

Asked later to clarify his comment, he said: "I can't tell you that. I'm not allowed to tell you that."

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Reply #245 - May 1^st, 2020 at 9:09pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 9:03pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:32pm:

For all those doubting Thomas's who laughed at me -

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52496098

What did Trump say?

At the White House on Thursday, Mr Trump was asked by a reporter: "Have you seen anything at this point that gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the origin of this virus?"

"Yes, I have. Yes, I have," said the president, without specifying. "And I think the World Health Organization [WHO] should be ashamed of themselves because they're like the public relations agency for China."

Asked later to clarify his comment, he said: "I can't tell you that. I'm not allowed to tell you that."

Many Blessings Brave Knight

it is how ye hath said as much to be so ..

and so it is ,

Namaste

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dear master Light,
many blessings
Thank you brave knight - your support is appreciated.
It is nice to know that I was right along.

namaste

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Reply #246 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 5:00am

The evidence is mounting:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/how-france-helped-build-chinese-biolab-linked...

Given what a disaster for the French the P4 lab in Wuhan has become,

it is worth asking why they embarked upon it in the first place. Like so many other failed public and private ventures in China, it was an effort to increase trade with the Communist giant. Add to this the fact that France already had close commercial ties with Wuhan, as more than 100 French companies were doing business there.

The stage was set for the P4 lab fiasco back in 2003 during the SARS-epidemic, when Chinese leader Jiang Zemin approached Jacque Chirac for help in building high-containment biolabs. In response, the French president authorized the export of four medium-containment mobile biolabs, or P3-labs. He did this against the advice of his own Defense Ministry, which argued that all existing P3-labs in China were under the direct command and control of the People’s Liberation Army and were being used for military purposes.

The French President’s authorization of the construction of a P4 biolab in Wuhan met even fiercer opposition, this time not only from his own Defense Ministry and the French intelligence service, the DGSE, but also from other member states of the European Union and from the United States. The U.S. had consistently opposed helping China create a P4 lab, and transferring the sensitive technology required to operate it, because of the risk that the facility could be used for military purposes.

I will close with this. Six months before the official opening of the P4 lab the French Ambassador to China visited the Wuhan Institute of Virology and bestowed a medal on Dr. Shi Zhengli.

Dr. Shi got a medal. The rest of us got the CCP Virus.

Steven W. Mosher @StevenWMosher is the President of the Population Research Institute and the author of Bully of Asia: Why China’s Dream is the New Threat to World Order.

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KangAnon Moderator Online The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 17905 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #247 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 7:11am The "questions" are mounting. There is no evidence, that's the problem. This is why your conspiracy is filling the void.
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Reply #248 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 8:26am

KangAnon wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 7:11am:

The "questions" are mounting.

There is no evidence, that's the problem.

This is why your conspiracy is filling the void.

dear Mr Sad,
The evidence is mounting - bit by bit.
For now it is only good enough to appear in the Fringe forum but
later on it may become mainstream especially
after Donald forces China to have an independent investigation into these matters.

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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #249 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 3:02pm

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 8:26am:

KangAnon wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 7:11am:

The "questions" are mounting.

There is no evidence, that's the problem.

This is why your conspiracy is filling the void.

dear Mr Sad,
The evidence is mounting - bit by bit.
For now it is only good enough to appear in the Fringe forum but
later on it may become mainstream especially
after Donald forces China to have an independent investigation into these matters.

It's either true and evidence, or a conspiracy and belongs int he fringe, don't confuse the two.

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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #250 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 7:27pm

KangAnon wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 3:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 8:26am:

KangAnon wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 7:11am:

The "questions" are mounting.

There is no evidence, that's the problem.

This is why your conspiracy is filling the void.

dear Mr Sad,
The evidence is mounting - bit by bit.
For now it is only good enough to appear in the Fringe forum but
later on it may become mainstream especially
after Donald forces China to have an independent investigation into these matters.

It's either true and evidence, or a conspiracy and belongs in the fringe, don't confuse the two.

Dear Mr sad,
truth is very elusive.
All we can do for now is bring forth what we do know.

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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #251 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 11:40pm

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 7:27pm:

KangAnon wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 3:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 8:26am:

KangAnon wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 7:11am:

The "questions" are mounting.

There is no evidence, that's the problem.

This is why your conspiracy is filling the void.

dear Mr Sad,
The evidence is mounting - bit by bit.
For now it is only good enough to appear in the Fringe forum but
later on it may become mainstream especially
after Donald forces China to have an independent investigation into these matters.

It's either true and evidence, or a conspiracy and belongs in the fringe, don't confuse the two.

Dear Mr sad,
truth is very elusive.
All we can do for now is bring forth what we do know.

You're not even doing that. You're making conclusions based on your opinions.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106745 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #252 - May 8^th, 2020 at 10:57am Jump to 10 minutes: https://lbry.tv/@FreedomFighter:a/Plandemic-Part-1---Dr.-Judy-Mikovits:4 Dr. Judy Mikovits confirms that Coronavirus is man made. The evolution of the virus would have taken naturally 800 years from SARS Cov1 to SARS Cov2. It took only 10 years.
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Reply #253 - May 8^th, 2020 at 11:02am

Bobby. wrote on May 8^th, 2020 at 10:57am:

Jump to 10 minutes:

https://lbry.tv/@FreedomFighter:a/Plandemic-Part-1---Dr.-Judy-Mikovits:4

Dr. Judy Mikovits confirms that Coronavirus is man made.
The evolution of the virus would have taken naturally 800
years from SARS Cov1 to SARS Cov2.
It took only 10 years.

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Judy Anne Mikovits is an American anti-vaccination activist, conspiracy theorist, and former medical researcher.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106745 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #254 - May 8^th, 2020 at 11:04am Watch the video Mimo. Your reply was faster than you could have watched the video. What more proof do we need of a troll?
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