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Reply #285 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:07am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 11th, 2020 at 7:23pm:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johndrake/2020/10/06/why-covid-19-isnt-just-a-bad-v...

Covid-19 is 54 times more lethal than the flu.

What more proof do we need that it's a bio weapon?


Proof that it was a bio weapon.
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Reply #286 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:14am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:07am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 11th, 2020 at 7:23pm:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johndrake/2020/10/06/why-covid-19-isnt-just-a-bad-v...

Covid-19 is 54 times more lethal than the flu.

What more proof do we need that it's a bio weapon?


Proof that it was a bio weapon.



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https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6191339058001


Chinese virologist claims virus which has ‘destroyed countries’ came from a lab



16/09/2020|2min

Sky News host Paul Murray says given the evidence “hasn’t really stacked up” to this point about the origins of the coronavirus, the world should pay attention to a Chinese virologist who points the finger at it being man-made.

A Chinese virologist whistleblower who fled the country after leaving her job at a Hong Kong university claims coronavirus was “man-made” in a lab – and the
communist nation released the virus “intentionally”.


Doctor Li-Meng Yan, who published a study undermining the origin theory that coronavirus naturally occurred, told Fox News it did not come from nature.

“This is created in the lab,” she told Fox News.

“The genomic, structural, medical, and literature evidence, which, when considered together, strongly contradicts the natural origin theory.”

Mr Murray said we should pay some attention to the whistleblower who could provide clarity as to where the virus which “killed hundreds of thousands of people, infected millions, and destroyed countries around the world” actually came from.
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Reply #287 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:38am
 
But that's still not evidence.

It's certainly a reason to search for evidence, but it's as reliable as Trump now saying he's immune from COVID-19.
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Reply #288 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:49am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:38am:
But that's still not evidence.

It's certainly a reason to search for evidence, but it's as reliable as Trump now saying he's immune from COVID-19.



Its' a case where no evidence will be good enough for some people.
The Chinese Govt. is not going to stand up and declare they did it.
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Reply #289 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 7:51am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:49am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:38am:
But that's still not evidence.

It's certainly a reason to search for evidence, but it's as reliable as Trump now saying he's immune from COVID-19.



Its' a case where no evidence will be good enough for some people.
The Chinese Govt. is not going to stand up and declare they did it.


Of course not, but even if it seems likely they did create the virus in a lab and then deliberately release it, because that is such a huge claim with so many wide-ranging impacts, you're going to need more than just the word of one whistleblower.

Especially when there is scientific evidence to suggest that it jumped from species to species.

I don't tryst China, I don't think anybody should.  Which is why some actual evidence is needed.
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Reply #290 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 12:06pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 7:51am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:49am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:38am:
But that's still not evidence.

It's certainly a reason to search for evidence, but it's as reliable as Trump now saying he's immune from COVID-19.



Its' a case where no evidence will be good enough for some people.
The Chinese Govt. is not going to stand up and declare they did it.


Of course not, but even if it seems likely they did create the virus in a lab and then deliberately release it, because that is such a huge claim with so many wide-ranging impacts, you're going to need more than just the word of one whistleblower.

Especially when there is scientific evidence to suggest that it jumped from species to species.

I don't tryst China, I don't think anybody should.  Which is why some actual evidence is needed.



The dishonest Chinese did not allow United nations
inspectors to enter the country and interview
the people who worked in their bio labs
or do any sort of investigation -
taking samples - reading all documents -
immediately in January 2020.
Access denied.
Obviously they something to cover up.

All we have now are whistle blowers who managed
to get out before they were murdered.

Of course it was an escaped bio weapon.
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Reply #291 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 12:33pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 12:06pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 7:51am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:49am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 6:38am:
But that's still not evidence.

It's certainly a reason to search for evidence, but it's as reliable as Trump now saying he's immune from COVID-19.



Its' a case where no evidence will be good enough for some people.
The Chinese Govt. is not going to stand up and declare they did it.


Of course not, but even if it seems likely they did create the virus in a lab and then deliberately release it, because that is such a huge claim with so many wide-ranging impacts, you're going to need more than just the word of one whistleblower.

Especially when there is scientific evidence to suggest that it jumped from species to species.

I don't tryst China, I don't think anybody should.  Which is why some actual evidence is needed.



The dishonest Chinese did not allow United nations
inspectors to enter the country and interview
the people who worked in their bio labs
or do any sort of investigation -
taking samples - reading all documents -
immediately in January 2020.
Access denied.
Obviously they something to cover up.

All we have now are whistle blowers who managed
to get out before they were murdered.

Of course it was an escaped bio weapon.


It's amazing how important whistle blowers become to you when you like what they're saying...
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Reply #292 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 12:37pm
 
China's administering its own vaccine to the population while the rest of the world dies off like an indigenous peoples in the face of colonisation. They had it all along.  Cheesy
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #293 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 12:56pm
 
Jasin wrote on Oct 12th, 2020 at 12:37pm:
China's administering its own vaccine to the population while the rest of the world dies off like an indigenous peoples in the face of colonisation. They had it all along.  Cheesy



Yes - they had the problem and now they have the solution while
the rest of the world dies off and property becomes cheaper.
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Reply #294 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 1:28pm
 
They have the Poison
They have the Remedy
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Reply #295 - Oct 17th, 2020 at 8:46pm
 
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6191230400001


Coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
and released ‘intentionally’
: Whistleblower virologist.


16/09/2020|7min

A Chinese virologist whistleblower who fled the country after leaving her job at a Hong Kong university claims coronavirus was “man-made” in a lab – and the communist nation released the virus “intentionally”.

Doctor Li-Meng Yan, who published a study undermining the origin theory that coronavirus naturally occurred, told Fox News it did not come from nature.

“This is created in the lab,” she told Fox News.

“China’s military discovered and owned the very unique bat coronavirus which cannot affect people, but after the modification became the very harmful virus.

“I have evidence to show why they can do it, what they have done, how did they do it.”

She said nobody speaks about the virus being manufactured in China because of “big suppression” from the Chinese Communist Party.

“The scientific world also keeps silent, works together with Chinese Community Party,” Dr Li-Meng said.


“They don’t want people to know this truth.

“That’s why I get suspended, I get suppression, I am the target that the Chinese Community Party wants to be disappeared.

“I worked in the WHO reference lab which is the top coronavirus lab in the world at the University of Hong Kong.

“And the thing is I get deeply into such investigation in secret from the early beginning of this outbreak.

“I had my intelligence because I also get my own unit network in China.”

In her research, the doctor said SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19, shows “biological characteristics that are inconsistent with a naturally occurring zoonotic virus” and could be created in a lab in “approximately six months”.

“The natural origin theory, although widely accepted, lacks substantial support,” the authors said.

“The alternative theory that the virus may have come from a research laboratory is, however, strictly censored on peer-reviewed scientific journals.

“The genomic, structural, medical, and literature evidence, which, when considered together, strongly contradicts the natural origin theory.

“The evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 should be a laboratory product created by using bat coronaviruses ZC45 and/or ZXC21 as a template and/or backbone.”

Dr Li-Meng said would release another report soon to “make you fully understand the case”.

Her research was uploaded to the open-access repository website Zenodo.

Correction: This report includes an extract from an interview with virologist Li-Meng Yan about conclusions drawn in her draft paper published on Zenodo.org which Healthfeedback.org found to be incorrect or unsupported, while acknowledging one hypothesis cannot be completely excluded until the origin of SARS-CoV-2 has been precisely determined.
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Reply #296 - Oct 26th, 2020 at 9:38pm
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54648684

Covid: Why is coronavirus so deadly?

By James Gallagher
Health and science correspondent

Published

3 days ago


A simple virus has brought life as we know it to a screeching halt.

...


We have faced viral threats before, including pandemics, yet the world does not shut down for every new infection or flu season.

So what is it about this coronavirus? What are the quirks of its biology that pose a unique threat to our bodies and our lives?
Master of deception


In the early stages of an infection the virus is able to deceive the body.

Coronavirus can be running rampant in our lungs and airways and yet our immune system thinks everything is a-ok.

"This virus is brilliant, it allows you to have a viral factory in your nose and feel completely well," says Prof Paul Lehner from the University of Cambridge.

Our body's cells start releasing chemicals - called interferons - once they are being hijacked by a virus and this is a warning signal to the rest of the body and the immune system.

But the coronavirus has an "amazing capability" of switching off this chemical warning, Prof Lehner says, "it does it so well you don't even know you're ill".

He says when you look at infected cells in the laboratory you cannot tell they have been infected and yet tests show they are "screaming with virus" and this is just one of the "joker cards" the virus can play.
It behaves like a 'hit and run' killer

The amount of virus in our body begins to peak the day before we begin to get sick.

But it takes at least a week before Covid progresses to the point where people need hospital treatment.

"This is a really brilliant evolutionary tactic - you don't go to bed, you go out and have a good time," says Prof Lehner.

So the virus is like a dangerous driver fleeing the scene - the virus has moved on to the next victim long before we either recover or die.

In stark terms, "the virus doesn't care" if you die, says Prof Lehner, "this is a hit and run virus".

This is a massive contrast with the original Sars-coronavirus, back in 2002. It was most infectious days after people became ill, so they were easy to isolate.


Blood clotting also goes strangely awry in Covid, with stories of doctors unable to get a line into a patient because it is immediately blocked with clotted blood.

Clotting chemicals in the blood are "200%, 300%, 400% higher" than normal in some Covid patients, says Prof Beverly Hunt from King's College London.
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Reply #297 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 10:28am
 
Evolution at it's worst.
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Reply #298 - Oct 27th, 2020 at 10:55am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 27th, 2020 at 10:28am:
Evolution at it's worst.



Or a genetic manipulation be evil scientists?
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Reply #299 - Oct 28th, 2020 at 6:19am
 
If the evidence supports it, which has yet to be seen.
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