Australian Politics Forum - China's covert biological weapons program

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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #330 - Dec 21^st, 2020 at 5:24pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 4:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 3:48pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2020 at 3:34pm:

What's been posted doesn't show evidence of a Chinese covert weapons program.

What has been posted is random bits of information, some true, some false, and the reader is being lead to connect the dots that aren't even there and come to the conclusion that it was a covert Chinese biological weapon.

But there is no evidence of it.

If there was, it wouldn't be a fringe topic.

Just like the election Fraud threads should be here and not in the US forum because there is no evidence for it what so ever.

Listen here Pal,
don't belittle my work -
one example of direct eye witness testimony:

Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #286 - Oct 12th, 2020 at 7:14am

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1580611988/285

Many of us suspect the Chinese either engineered Covid 19 or availed themselves of something nasty they discovered in the ‘warm meat market’.
Why is just about every nation on the planet is scared to point the finger? At least Herr Morrison has suggested an investigation into the origins of Covid 19. Given China’s thug in chief is a personal friend of the woman at the forefront of defending the ‘warm meat’ market we need to ask a lot more questions and brace ourselves for the next biological threat originating in some rare animal prepared in the suicidal, dangerous Chinese manner (cooked rare from ‘warm’). Genetic manipulation may have been involved with Covid 19 but that’s not necessary to unleash another plague on the planet. Remember, this culture may be making profound technological advances yet most Chinese still believe rhinoceros horn makes you randy.

Sometimes your instinct tells you the truth straight away.
It looked like a bio weapon from the first day I saw it on TV in Wuhan.
Welding up doors - that wasn't normal -
something terrible had happened.

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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #331 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 9:26am

Eye witness testimony is the worst kind of evidnce.

What seems like might be true about the origins of COVID are still just opinions, it's not evidence.

I agree the whole thing is sus, but to make any claim you first need evidence.

When it's something as serious as this, you need rock solid evidence.

We're not talking about investigating who stole a cookie here...

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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #332 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 11:55am

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 9:26am:

Eye witness testimony is the worst kind of evidence.

What seems like might be true about the origins of COVID are still just opinions, it's not evidence.

I agree the whole thing is sus, but to make any claim you first need evidence.

When it's something as serious as this, you need rock solid evidence.

We're not talking about investigating who stole a cookie here...

Direct eye witness testimony is the main kind
of evidence accepted in a court of law.

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SadKangaroo Moderator Offline #FightStupid Posts: 17728 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #333 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 11:59am Which is the biggest flaw.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106455 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #334 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 12:15pm SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 11:59am: Which is the biggest flaw. Eye witness testimony from a scientist was great and powerful evidence - good enough to convince Neil deGrasse Tyson.
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SadKangaroo Moderator Offline #FightStupid Posts: 17728 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #335 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 12:51pm No, it wasn't. He, like many of us, rely on the data, not the word of someone with who knows what bias guiding their claims. And as he said, extraordinary claims...
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #336 - Dec 24^th, 2020 at 6:17am I doubt Booby knows what his sig really means because he never posts any real evidence let alone “extraordinary evidence.”
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106455 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #337 - Dec 24^th, 2020 at 6:29am Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 24^th, 2020 at 6:17am: I doubt Booby knows what his sig really means because he never posts any real evidence let alone “extraordinary evidence.” Mong is too drunk to understand science.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #338 - Dec 24^th, 2020 at 6:54am You truly are an idiot. You just post a heap of stuff with no analysis and think that is evidence. As I said, you do not know what evidence is or how to present it. You truly are an idiot.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #339 - Dec 24^th, 2020 at 6:55am That you resorted to an ad hom just shows your arguments lack weight.
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SadKangaroo Moderator Offline #FightStupid Posts: 17728 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #340 - Dec 24^th, 2020 at 8:52am There is a lab in Wuhan, therefore it's a bioweapon. That is not evidence. People were welded shut in their house, therefore it's a bioweapon This is not evidence.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #341 - Dec 31^st, 2020 at 8:25am

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 24^th, 2020 at 8:52am:

There is a lab in Wuhan, therefore it's a bioweapon.

That is not evidence.

People were welded shut in their house, therefore it's a bioweapon

This is not evidence.

Do you actually imagine the Chinese would leave any evidence?
We may never know the truth of the situation. For me the bottom line is there’s no need for the Chinese to be genetically engineering viruses as weapons. Their attitude to the ‘warm meet’ market, supported by by their 'great leader’, is a serious threat to all of us.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106455 Melbourne Gender:	Re: China's covert biological weapons program Reply #342 - Dec 31^st, 2020 at 8:35am SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 24^th, 2020 at 8:52am: There is a lab in Wuhan, therefore it's a bioweapon. That is not evidence. People were welded shut in their house, therefore it's a bioweapon This is not evidence. And you left out direct eye witness testimony as stated above.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #343 - Jan 2^nd, 2021 at 1:53pm

Proverb in Chinese: 请教别人一次是五分钟的傻子，从不请教别人是一辈子的傻子
Pinyin: qǐng jiào bié rén yī cì shì wǔ fēnzhōng de shǎzi, cóng bù qǐng jiào biérén shì yī bèizi de shǎzi
English translation: "He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes; he who does not ask a question remains a fool forever."

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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #344 - Jan 2^nd, 2021 at 2:15pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 31^st, 2020 at 8:25am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 24^th, 2020 at 8:52am:

There is a lab in Wuhan, therefore it's a bioweapon.

That is not evidence.

People were welded shut in their house, therefore it's a bioweapon

This is not evidence.

Do you actually imagine the Chinese would leave any evidence?
We may never know the truth of the situation. For me the bottom line is there’s no need for the Chinese to be genetically engineering viruses as weapons. Their attitude to the ‘warm meet’ market, supported by by their 'great leader’, is a serious threat to all of us.

The Covid outbreak started in Wuhan, which just happens to have a biosafety level 4 virology lab that studies coronavirus almost identical to COVID-19.

Now if every city in China had a biosafety level 4 virology lab that studies the aforementioned, no big deal, but level 4 virology labs are very rare. China has just 2.

Now look at the wobbly China chucked at Australia over the request for an investigation. Shortly after that they started point the finger to everyone from Italy to frozen beef from Australia. The lady doth protest too much?

Now let's have a look at a book two Chinese Colonels wrote in 1999.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_Warfare

Expanded:

Qiao and Wang called for a “revolution in war,” which combines conventional with non-war actions, and military with non-military actions. In an alarming opinion, they stated that war may include a blend of stealth planes and cruise missiles, along with biochemical, financial, and terrorist attacks.

War for Biological Dominance
More than a decade later, a 2010 publication titled War for Biological Dominance (制生权战争) emphasized the impact of biology on future warfare.

https://japan-forward.com/biological-weapons-the-focus-of-chinas-military-resear...

My personal opinion is Covid19 escaped by accident, and it was either a recently found naturally occurring virus or one they've been playing with.

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