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Reply #510 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:04pm
 
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Bobby, really lacking there in the critical thinking department, aren't you?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #511 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:04pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Bobby, really lacking there in the critical thinking department, aren't you?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
He may or may not but some itemisation of the particular points you find lacking critical thinking might assist those who aren’t sure what you’re objecting to.
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Reply #512 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 10:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:40pm:

Says the 100 X yawning, tut tutting eyerolling 'educated, thinking' Bwian.




Brian seems to think the Chinese are nice guys who could do no wrong.
Is he naive or stupid?
I posted today on his Defence forum:

The Chinese bastards -
first bio weapons and now nukes for us.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1626752835

If any Chinese spies or spooks are reading this -
we know what you're doing -
your are hostile to us -
you're a huge threat.
We don't trust you at all.
We know about your bio weapons -
we know about your nuclear weapons.


There is some evidence you may be correct but unfortunately the Chinese are cleverly preventing us knowing exactly what they’re up to.
Not so with nations such as Israel who deliberately leak information of how well armed they are. Changing the subject but I can never understand we we’re forbidden criticising Israel possessing nuclear weapons while the West gets hysterical at the prospect of other nations in the Middle East developing them. Why the hell do they imagine the Iranians want them?

And yes, the Chinese are a threat to all of us but so are all large collectives force fed state propaganda.

As to Chinese spies the seriously dangerous ones are Chinese university students studying in Australia reporting everything they witness and sometimes what they imagine for fear mummy and daddy will get locked up back home if they don’t cooperate.
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Reply #513 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:57pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 10:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:40pm:

Says the 100 X yawning, tut tutting eyerolling 'educated, thinking' Bwian.




Brian seems to think the Chinese are nice guys who could do no wrong.
Is he naive or stupid?
I posted today on his Defence forum:

The Chinese bastards -
first bio weapons and now nukes for us.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1626752835

If any Chinese spies or spooks are reading this -
we know what you're doing -
your are hostile to us -
you're a huge threat.
We don't trust you at all.
We know about your bio weapons -
we know about your nuclear weapons.


There is some evidence you may be correct but unfortunately the Chinese are cleverly preventing us knowing exactly what they’re up to.
Not so with nations such as Israel who deliberately leak information of how well armed they are. Changing the subject but I can never understand we we’re forbidden criticising Israel possessing nuclear weapons while the West gets hysterical at the prospect of other nations in the Middle East developing them. Why the hell do they imagine the Iranians want them?

And yes, the Chinese are a threat to all of us but so are all large collectives force fed state propaganda.

As to Chinese spies the seriously dangerous ones are Chinese university students studying in Australia reporting everything they witness and sometimes what they imagine for fear mummy and daddy will get locked up back home if they don’t cooperate.



Chinese spies should be hanged in front of federal parliament.
We have to start getting serious.
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Reply #514 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:04pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Bobby, really lacking there in the critical thinking department, aren't you?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Easy for you to say but you can't prove it.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #515 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 4:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:57pm:
Chinese spies should be hanged in front of federal parliament.
We have to start getting serious.


You do come up with some silly ideas but this one’s a doozy. What do you imagine would happen to Australians working, visiting of living China if you had your wish?
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Reply #516 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 6:26pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 10:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 9:40pm:

Says the 100 X yawning, tut tutting eyerolling 'educated, thinking' Bwian.




Brian seems to think the Chinese are nice guys who could do no wrong.
Is he naive or stupid?
I posted today on his Defence forum:

The Chinese bastards -
first bio weapons and now nukes for us.


https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1626752835

If any Chinese spies or spooks are reading this -
we know what you're doing -
your are hostile to us -
you're a huge threat.
We don't trust you at all.
We know about your bio weapons -
we know about your nuclear weapons.


There is some evidence you may be correct but unfortunately the Chinese are cleverly preventing us knowing exactly what they’re up to.
Not so with nations such as Israel who deliberately leak information of how well armed they are. Changing the subject but I can never understand we we’re forbidden criticising Israel possessing nuclear weapons while the West gets hysterical at the prospect of other nations in the Middle East developing them. Why the hell do they imagine the Iranians want them?

And yes, the Chinese are a threat to all of us but so are all large collectives force fed state propaganda.

As to Chinese spies the seriously dangerous ones are Chinese university students studying in Australia reporting everything they witness and sometimes what they imagine for fear mummy and daddy will get locked up back home if they don’t cooperate.


Iran - like a lot of other Muslim countries and Western Muslims and lefties- wants to destroy Israel.

Israel wants to defend itself. It does not want to destroy Iran or any of the Muslim countries or Western lefties.

And nobody is 'forbidden criticising Israel's nukes'. But try to publish a Mohammed cartoon and see what happens.


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Reply #517 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 6:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 29th, 2021 at 5:04pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Bobby, really lacking there in the critical thinking department, aren't you?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Easy for you to say but you can't prove it.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

And to think all that pocket pissing you've been doing for Pastor Ross and this is the thanks you get!
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Reply #518 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:13pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 4:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:57pm:
Chinese spies should be hanged in front of federal parliament.
We have to start getting serious.


You do come up with some silly ideas but this one’s a doozy. What do you imagine would happen to Australians working, visiting of living China if you had your wish?



So - what are we doing about all those Chinese spies?
China also attacks us on the internet -
1000s of companies have been attacked.
What is your solution?
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Reply #519 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:53pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:13pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 4:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:57pm:
Chinese spies should be hanged in front of federal parliament.
We have to start getting serious.


You do come up with some silly ideas but this one’s a doozy. What do you imagine would happen to Australians working, visiting of living China if you had your wish?



So - what are we doing about all those Chinese spies?
China also attacks us on the internet -
1000s of companies have been attacked.
What is your solution?


Apply the skills of the Dept of External Affairs to encouraging and supporting any Australian industry looking for alternative markets for their products. Slap a massive import duty on all Chinese manufactured goods from companies owned by Australians.
Encourage Australians to leave China as soon as possible but do so without too much public hoo-ha. Expose Australian companies, such as Bunnings, importing Chinese goods for which they negotiated the manufacture of cheap (inferior quality) products for the Australian market.

Increase military preparedness dramatically. (I won’t discuss in which areas here for obvious reasons) Dump the stupid contract for French submarines transferring the order to Japan. I have a long list however there are a number of misguided fools posting here who would stoop low enough to transmit anything seriously interesting I might propose to you know who.

ASIO’s budget also needs a huge increase to enable them to spy on Chinese students studying in Australia. So what if fewer of them come here so long as the Gov’t ceases to strangle tertiary education.

Dramatically increase aid to Pacific Island nations etc..... the list could go on but I suspect my general direction is obvious.

Establish a military equipment manufacturing industry here with the intention of supplying  Sth East Asian nations who can be trusted ( A big question mark there )

Ban Chinese studying  digital technology, science or engineering subjects of strategic value in Australian universities etc. Encourage drug companies to cease relying exclusively upon China for critical base pharmaceutical ingredients. 

Ban Chinese nationals or their proven agents purchasing significant rural property and city real estate. If you imagine that’s extreme try, as an Australian, to purchase the major share in any Chinese property and see how far you get.

Provide tax incentives for Australian companies to invest in digital/internet security.

Enough said apart from drawing attention to the shamefull fact China isn’t the only guilty party in all of this. We Australians have been baring our arses to them for far, far too long.
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Reply #520 - Jul 30th, 2021 at 9:00pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:13pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 4:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:57pm:
Chinese spies should be hanged in front of federal parliament.
We have to start getting serious.


You do come up with some silly ideas but this one’s a doozy. What do you imagine would happen to Australians working, visiting of living China if you had your wish?



So - what are we doing about all those Chinese spies?
China also attacks us on the internet -
1000s of companies have been attacked.
What is your solution?


Apply the skills of the Dept of External Affairs to encouraging and supporting any Australian industry looking for alternative markets for their products. Slap a massive import duty on all Chinese manufactured goods from companies owned by Australians.
Encourage Australians to leave China as soon as possible but do so without too much public hoo-ha. Expose Australian companies, such as Bunnings, importing Chinese goods for which they negotiated the manufacture of cheap (inferior quality) products for the Australian market.

Increase military preparedness dramatically. (I won’t discuss in which areas here for obvious reasons) Dump the stupid contract for French submarines transferring the order to Japan. I have a long list however there are a number of misguided fools posting here who would stoop low enough to transmit anything seriously interesting I might propose to you know who.

ASIO’s budget also needs a huge increase to enable them to spy on Chinese students studying in Australia. So what if fewer of them come here so long as the Gov’t ceases to strangle tertiary education.

Dramatically increase aid to Pacific Island nations etc..... the list could go on but I suspect my general direction is obvious.

Establish a military equipment manufacturing industry here with the intention of supplying  Sth East Asian nations who can be trusted ( A big question mark there )

Ban Chinese studying  digital technology, science or engineering subjects of strategic value in Australian universities etc. Encourage drug companies to cease relying exclusively upon China for critical base pharmaceutical ingredients. 

Ban Chinese nationals or their proven agents purchasing significant rural property and city real estate. If you imagine that’s extreme try, as an Australian, to purchase the major share in any Chinese property and see how far you get.

Provide tax incentives for Australian companies to invest in digital/internet security.

Enough said apart from drawing attention to the shamefull fact China isn’t the only guilty party in all of this. We Australians have been baring our arses to them for far, far too long.



China is too strong to be playing games like that.
China could ruin us overnight by not buying our coal or iron ore etc.
We need China but we don't need their spying
and their biological and nuclear weapons.
It's also time we got the United Nations fired up by
getting the USA to do the hard yards for us.
Get the USA to make all kinds of demands at the United Nations about China.
Even threaten to kick China out of the UN
so they no longer have a veto power.
What else should be the penalty for covering up a
bio weapons program that has
nearly destroyed the whole world?
At the same time they are massively increasing their nukes.
They are a threat even worse than the Nazis or the Soviets.
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Reply #521 - Jul 31st, 2021 at 4:24pm
 
Transferring the contract for the Attack Class submarines to Japan from France?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You do realise there are massive penalties inherit in doing that?  The French might get a little pissed off as well.  Japan is not a reliable defence contractor, they have no history of supplying overseas contracts.  This would be their first one.  The Sōryū-class submarine (Ōryū) are inferior to the French Attack class.  It's range is too short for what the RAN wants.   It would run out of fuel far too quickly for what they want to do with it. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #522 - Jul 31st, 2021 at 5:02pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:13pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 4:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:57pm:
Chinese spies should be hanged in front of federal parliament.
We have to start getting serious.


You do come up with some silly ideas but this one’s a doozy. What do you imagine would happen to Australians working, visiting of living China if you had your wish?



So - what are we doing about all those Chinese spies?
China also attacks us on the internet -
1000s of companies have been attacked.
What is your solution?


Apply the skills of the Dept of External Affairs to encouraging and supporting any Australian industry looking for alternative markets for their products. Slap a massive import duty on all Chinese manufactured goods from companies owned by Australians.
Encourage Australians to leave China as soon as possible but do so without too much public hoo-ha. Expose Australian companies, such as Bunnings, importing Chinese goods for which they negotiated the manufacture of cheap (inferior quality) products for the Australian market.

Increase military preparedness dramatically. (I won’t discuss in which areas here for obvious reasons) Dump the stupid contract for French submarines transferring the order to Japan. I have a long list however there are a number of misguided fools posting here who would stoop low enough to transmit anything seriously interesting I might propose to you know who.

ASIO’s budget also needs a huge increase to enable them to spy on Chinese students studying in Australia. So what if fewer of them come here so long as the Gov’t ceases to strangle tertiary education.

Dramatically increase aid to Pacific Island nations etc..... the list could go on but I suspect my general direction is obvious.

Establish a military equipment manufacturing industry here with the intention of supplying  Sth East Asian nations who can be trusted ( A big question mark there )

Ban Chinese studying  digital technology, science or engineering subjects of strategic value in Australian universities etc. Encourage drug companies to cease relying exclusively upon China for critical base pharmaceutical ingredients. 

Ban Chinese nationals or their proven agents purchasing significant rural property and city real estate. If you imagine that’s extreme try, as an Australian, to purchase the major share in any Chinese property and see how far you get.

Provide tax incentives for Australian companies to invest in digital/internet security.

Enough said apart from drawing attention to the shamefull fact China isn’t the only guilty party in all of this. We Australians have been baring our arses to them for far, far too long.
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Reply #523 - Aug 1st, 2021 at 3:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 31st, 2021 at 5:02pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:53pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 7:13pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 4:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 30th, 2021 at 2:57pm:
Chinese spies should be hanged in front of federal parliament.
We have to start getting serious.


You do come up with some silly ideas but this one’s a doozy. What do you imagine would happen to Australians working, visiting of living China if you had your wish?



So - what are we doing about all those Chinese spies?
China also attacks us on the internet -
1000s of companies have been attacked.
What is your solution?


Apply the skills of the Dept of External Affairs to encouraging and supporting any Australian industry looking for alternative markets for their products. Slap a massive import duty on all Chinese manufactured goods from companies owned by Australians.
Encourage Australians to leave China as soon as possible but do so without too much public hoo-ha. Expose Australian companies, such as Bunnings, importing Chinese goods for which they negotiated the manufacture of cheap (inferior quality) products for the Australian market.

Increase military preparedness dramatically. (I won’t discuss in which areas here for obvious reasons) Dump the stupid contract for French submarines transferring the order to Japan. I have a long list however there are a number of misguided fools posting here who would stoop low enough to transmit anything seriously interesting I might propose to you know who.

ASIO’s budget also needs a huge increase to enable them to spy on Chinese students studying in Australia. So what if fewer of them come here so long as the Gov’t ceases to strangle tertiary education.

Dramatically increase aid to Pacific Island nations etc..... the list could go on but I suspect my general direction is obvious.

Establish a military equipment manufacturing industry here with the intention of supplying  Sth East Asian nations who can be trusted ( A big question mark there )

Ban Chinese studying  digital technology, science or engineering subjects of strategic value in Australian universities etc. Encourage drug companies to cease relying exclusively upon China for critical base pharmaceutical ingredients. 

Ban Chinese nationals or their proven agents purchasing significant rural property and city real estate. If you imagine that’s extreme try, as an Australian, to purchase the major share in any Chinese property and see how far you get.

Provide tax incentives for Australian companies to invest in digital/internet security.

Enough said apart from drawing attention to the shamefull fact China isn’t the only guilty party in all of this. We Australians have been baring our arses to them for far, far too long.
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Interesting how in attempting to prove your wisdom some of you fall flat on your face. The expression ‘baring their arses’ originates from the venerable English public school pushishment of baring one’s arse to receive the lash. I’m inclined to suggest you need a few for being a smart arse. 
Possibley the confusion comes from a dim understanding of Winston Churchill’s famous description of the British Navy. “The Navy is founded on three noble traditions, Rum, Sodomy and the Lash”
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Reply #524 - Aug 1st, 2021 at 3:50pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31st, 2021 at 4:24pm:
Transferring the contract for the Attack Class submarines to Japan from France?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You do realise there are massive penalties inherit in doing that?  The French might get a little pissed off as well.  Japan is not a reliable defence contractor, they have no history of supplying overseas contracts.  This would be their first one.  The Sōryū-class submarine (Ōryū) are inferior to the French Attack class.  It's range is too short for what the RAN wants.   It would run out of fuel far too quickly for what they want to do with it. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Sadly I can’t disprove your claims. An ex of mine ,whose rank and specific skills I need to keep to myself, is involved in this mess as a high ranking member or the Oz navy. My perspective comes directly from him. Simply put, nothing Australian tax payers are being told about the French contract is reliable.
At the presesnt rate of development of the Oz variety by the time Australia takes delivery they’ll be obsolete anyhow. They’ll be of little use unless armed with nuclear weapons.
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