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Reply #585 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 6:36pm
 
The most likely scenario is the virus was collected from the bowels of some deep dark cave, brought to the Wuhan lab then.....OOOPS.

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Reply #586 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 6:47pm
 
That is what you might want to have happened, it is not what the Nature paper suggests tho.
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Reply #587 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 6:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2021 at 7:02am:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/22/report-wuhan-lab-sought-funding-to...

Report: Wuhan Lab Sought Funding to Create,
Release ‘Enhanced’ Coronaviruses into Bats


https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/016/955/146/original/afa3a5f7d...


Researchers also wanted to create chimeric viruses that were “genetically enhanced to infect humans more easily, and requested $14 million from the Pentagon’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) to fund the work,” the Telegraph reports. The papers show the researchers were hoping to introduce “human-specific cleavage sites” to bat coronaviruses, which would make it easier for the virus to enter human cells.

As the Telegraph noted, “When Covid-19 was first genetically sequenced, scientists were puzzled about how the virus had evolved such a human-specific adaptation at the cleavage site on the spike protein, which is the reason it is so infectious.”


“The scary part is they were making infectious chimeric Mers viruses,” the researcher said. “These viruses have a fatality rate over 30 per cent, which is at least an order of magnitude more deadly than Sars-CoV-2. If one of their receptor replacements made Mers spread similarly, while maintaining its lethality, this pandemic would be nearly apocalyptic.”


Ecohealth allaince run by Peter Daszak tried to get DARPA to fund this new virus.

Peter Daszak was also behind the letter written claiming it couldn't have come from a lab also on team investigating in Wuhan. He never mentioned these conflicts of interest.

From the source in your link
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16. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE INTRODUCTION OF “HUMAN-SPECIFIC CLEAVAGE
SITES”


We will analyze all SARSr-CoV S gene sequences for appropriately conserved proteolytic
cleavage sites in S2 and for the presence of potential Furin cleavage sites74,75”
.
SARSr-CoV S with mismatches in proteolytic cleavage sites can be activated by exogenous Trypsin or Cathepsin L.

Where clear mismatches occur, we will introduce appropriate human-specific cleavage sites
and evaluate growth potential in Vero cells and HAE cultures.”


https://drasticresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/defuse-project-drastic-analy...


The people from DRASTIC also wrote this which is beyond Monkey man and SK comprehansion levels take note of novel furin cleavage site mentioned above.

Quote:
Conclusion

More than a year after the initial documented cases in Wuhan, the source of SARS-CoV-2 has yet to be identified, and the search for a direct or intermediate host in nature has been so far unsuccessful. The low binding affinity of SARS-CoV-2 to bat ACE2 studied to date does not support Chiroptera as a direct zoonotic agent. Furthermore, the reliance on pangolin coronavirus receptor binding domain (RBD) similarity to SARS-CoV-2 as evidence for natural zoonotic spillover is flawed, as pangolins are unlikely to play a role in SARS-CoV-2′s origin and recombination is not supported by recent analysis. At the same time, genomic analyses pointed out that SARS-CoV-2 exhibits multiple peculiar characteristics not found in other Sarbecoviruses. A novel multibasic furin cleavage site (FCS) confers numerous pathogenetically advantageous capabilities, the existence of which is difficult to explain though natural evolution; SARS-CoV-2 to human ACE2 binding is far stronger than SARS-CoV, yet there is no indication of amount of evolutionary adaptation that SARS-CoV or MERS-CoV underwent.

More here unlike monks bullshit this link has relevant cites- https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10311-021-01211-0

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Reply #588 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:00pm
 
So we have ecohealth alliance run by Peter Daszak saying he will introduce human specific cleavage sites into a coronavirus then presto we have a coronavirus with exactly what he said they could do with a virus.

Then this very same person tries to deny this virus has lab origins.

Only idiots would believe this virus evolved naturally.


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Reply #589 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:03pm
 
Or those that WANT it to be a bio weapon won’t look at any other evidence.
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Reply #590 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:24pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Or those that WANT it to be a bio weapon won’t look at any other evidence.


I don't think it was a bioweapon. A bioweapon would be more deadly act faster then disperse quickly so troops wouldn't be at risk when they waltz in.

Trump should have fired Fauci yet that would have caused massive butthurt with the bedwetting snowflakes.

Fauci and the NIH funded this research that gave us this Kung Flu the truth will come out.

Documents have already been leaked they had to pick a neutral politician Rand Paul is a perfect choice.

I would ignore all links with fact check heck even SK called himself a fact checker those who claim that never look at all the evidence they have agendas to push.

Take your pick Fauci has blood on his hands with this. Fauci even tries to redefine gain of function.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=rand+paul+fauci+gain+of+function&source=hp&ei...


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Reply #591 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:39pm
 
Obviously, if it was intended to be a bioweapon it was released, probably accidentally, way too early.
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Reply #592 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:50pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Or those that WANT it to be a bio weapon won’t look at any other evidence.


I don't think it was a bioweapon. A bioweapon would be more deadly act faster then disperse quickly so troops wouldn't be at risk when they waltz in.

Trump should have fired Fauci yet that would have caused massive butthurt with the bedwetting snowflakes.

Fauci and the NIH funded this research that gave us this Kung Flu the truth will come out.

Documents have already been leaked they had to pick a neutral politician Rand Paul is a perfect choice.

I would ignore all links with fact check heck even SK called himself a fact checker those who claim that never look at all the evidence they have agendas to push.

Take your pick Fauci has blood on his hands with this. Fauci even tries to redefine gain of function.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=rand+paul+fauci+gain+of+function&source=hp&ei...





This guy explains it clearly:
Gain of Function -
Covid-19 is a bio weapon - proof:

See the video -
jump to 16:50

https://rumble.com/vmy6bq-dr-vladimir-zelenko-takes-a-big-risk-by-telling-it-all...


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Reply #593 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:51pm
 
More crap from Bobo.
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Reply #594 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:16pm
 
Cheeses!! we have Jovial Monk infestation again....

He's everywhere, saying nuffin'.   Tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #595 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:24pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Or those that WANT it to be a bio weapon won’t look at any other evidence.


I don't think it was a bioweapon. A bioweapon would be more deadly act faster then disperse quickly so troops wouldn't be at risk when they waltz in.



Actually, if China released a deadly bioweapon the world would recognise it as an act of war and respond accordingly, China doesn't want that.

Much smarter to release something that causes more disruptions than actual fatalities. Look at the polarisation it's caused, even people here like The Drunk Driver are happy when people he disagrees with politically die from it.

China has the political apparatus to deal with this, free countries, much less so.
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Reply #596 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:49pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:50pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Or those that WANT it to be a bio weapon won’t look at any other evidence.


I don't think it was a bioweapon. A bioweapon would be more deadly act faster then disperse quickly so troops wouldn't be at risk when they waltz in.

Trump should have fired Fauci yet that would have caused massive butthurt with the bedwetting snowflakes.

Fauci and the NIH funded this research that gave us this Kung Flu the truth will come out.

Documents have already been leaked they had to pick a neutral politician Rand Paul is a perfect choice.

I would ignore all links with fact check heck even SK called himself a fact checker those who claim that never look at all the evidence they have agendas to push.

Take your pick Fauci has blood on his hands with this. Fauci even tries to redefine gain of function.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=rand+paul+fauci+gain+of+function&source=hp&ei...





This guy explains it clearly:
Gain of Function -
Covid-19 is a bio weapon - proof:

See the video -
jump to 16:50

https://rumble.com/vmy6bq-dr-vladimir-zelenko-takes-a-big-risk-by-telling-it-all...


https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/017/049/960/original/d0a9cd8ff...


That'sthe Jewish doctor from New York who started treating people with HCQ when NY was the epicentre of kung flu in the US. He didn't lose a patient and none ended up in hospital.

The lancet published this paper which stopped all trials on HCQ can Monk or SK tell us what it means now it has big red letters saying RETRACTED all over it? This doctor did say the paper was based on bullshit looks like they found the bullshit with peer review.  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fullt...

How many of those with Trump Derangement Syndrome are aware of the benefits with using HCQ with onset of symptoms?  Did the American Journal of Medicine say 200Mg tablets with onset of symptoms is the go? https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)30673-2/fulltext

All those who object to using HCQ have blood on their hands through ignorance or plain stupidity they even pretend to have a clue on what they're talking about.


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Reply #597 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:55pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:24pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Or those that WANT it to be a bio weapon won’t look at any other evidence.


I don't think it was a bioweapon. A bioweapon would be more deadly act faster then disperse quickly so troops wouldn't be at risk when they waltz in.



Actually, if China released a deadly bioweapon the world would recognise it as an act of war and respond accordingly, China doesn't want that.

Much smarter to release something that causes more disruptions than actual fatalities. Look at the polarisation it's caused, even people here like The Drunk Driver are happy when people he disagrees with politically die from it.

China has the political apparatus to deal with this, free countries, much less so.


I am still not convinced it's a bioweapon or deliberate release on the fence with this one.

It appears this gain of function research financed by NIH and Fauci was done in Bio security level 3 lab and not BSL4 so chances of accidental release become even higher.

At this stage still leaning towards idiocy-accidental release from lab in Wuhan
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Reply #598 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:24pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Or those that WANT it to be a bio weapon won’t look at any other evidence.


I don't think it was a bioweapon. A bioweapon would be more deadly act faster then disperse quickly so troops wouldn't be at risk when they waltz in.



Actually, if China released a deadly bioweapon the world would recognise it as an act of war and respond accordingly, China doesn't want that.

Much smarter to release something that causes more disruptions than actual fatalities. Look at the polarisation it's caused, even people here like The Drunk Driver are happy when people he disagrees with politically die from it.

China has the political apparatus to deal with this, free countries, much less so.


I am still not convinced it's a bioweapon or deliberate release on the fence with this one.

It appears this gain of function research financed by NIH and Fauci was done in Bio security level 3 lab and not BSL4 so chances of accidental release become even higher.

At this stage still leaning towards idiocy-accidental release from lab in Wuhan


Same, just saying if it was, it's more China's style to do something that would continue to erode the west. They don't want a head to head confrontation, they want to white-ant us.

Tell you what tho, what's the bet their troll farms are working overtime to increase the division that's happening. Never let a good crisis go to waste.
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Reply #599 - Oct 2nd, 2021 at 9:17pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:59pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 8:24pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:24pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 2nd, 2021 at 7:03pm:
Or those that WANT it to be a bio weapon won’t look at any other evidence.


I don't think it was a bioweapon. A bioweapon would be more deadly act faster then disperse quickly so troops wouldn't be at risk when they waltz in.



Actually, if China released a deadly bioweapon the world would recognise it as an act of war and respond accordingly, China doesn't want that.

Much smarter to release something that causes more disruptions than actual fatalities. Look at the polarisation it's caused, even people here like The Drunk Driver are happy when people he disagrees with politically die from it.

China has the political apparatus to deal with this, free countries, much less so.


I am still not convinced it's a bioweapon or deliberate release on the fence with this one.

It appears this gain of function research financed by NIH and Fauci was done in Bio security level 3 lab and not BSL4 so chances of accidental release become even higher.

At this stage still leaning towards idiocy-accidental release from lab in Wuhan


Same, just saying if it was, it's more China's style to do something that would continue to erode the west. They don't want a head to head confrontation, they want to white-ant us.

Tell you what tho, what's the bet their troll farms are working overtime to increase the division that's happening. Never let a good crisis go to waste.


The virus did originate in Wuhan where apartment doors were welded shut road tunnels were blocked with dirt.

They tried to silence Dr Ai Fen and Li Wenliang who blew the whistle on this.
I don't know why anyone would defend China knowing what these Doctors were put through by the CCP.

Eroding the west hurts them as well we're their biggest customers for cheap Chinese Junk.


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