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Reply #750 - Sep 16th, 2022 at 5:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 4:29pm:
https://www.rt.com/news/562874-us-impede-covid-research-lancet/

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US impeded independent research into Covid origins – Lancet
Washington barred scientists from its laboratories manipulating SARS-CoV-like viruses, the British medical journal claimed
US impeded independent research into Covid origins – Lancet



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The US has prevented independent research into the origins of the Covid-19 virus, a report by the Lancet Commission has asserted.

Washington barred the researchers from accessing relevant laboratories and refused to disclose full information on American studies of the virus, the document, published in the British medical journal on Wednesday, outlined.

“Independent researchers have not yet investigated the US laboratories engaged in the laboratory manipulation of SARS-CoV-like viruses,” the report said while discussing the potential origins of the Covid-19 infection. Nor had they gained access to the research conducted at the Wuhan laboratory, which has been considered a possible place where the disease might have originated, the document added.

The US National Institutes of Health (NIH) also “resisted disclosing the details” of the research conducted in America on SARS-CoV-related viruses, which the US government agency has been supporting, according to the report. Eventually, only an “extensively redacted” version of the relevant data was provided, the document said, adding that it contains only as much information that was required by the Freedom of Information act lawsuits.


So what? The science shows the virus arose in the Wuhan wet market, like the SARS virus before it.
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Reply #751 - Sep 16th, 2022 at 5:55pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 5:46pm:
So what? The science shows the virus arose in the Wuhan wet market, like the SARS virus before it.



What have they got to hide?
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Reply #752 - Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:06pm
 
Who’s gotta hide what?
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Reply #753 - Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:07pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:06pm:
Who’s gotta hide what?



Are you illiterate?


US impeded independent research into Covid origins – Lancet
Washington barred scientists from its laboratories manipulating SARS-CoV-like viruses, the British medical journal claimed
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Reply #754 - Sep 16th, 2022 at 6:29pm
 
Who cares?

Covid arose in the Wuhan wet market.

The Spanish flu likely originated in a wet market in Arkansas or Alabama.
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Reply #755 - Sep 16th, 2022 at 7:12pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 16th, 2022 at 10:19am:
Covid19 came from the wet market in Wuhan, all the REAL, scientific evidence points that way.


There is zero zip zilch evidence to support wet market as origin for kung flu.

Just because a dopey incel mong like you who didn't do science in high school claims this it doesn't mean it's true.

What is the date on this article ya dopey Mong?

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The Lancet Commission on lessons for the future from the COVID-19 pandemic


The origins of SARS-CoV-2

The proximal origins of SARS-CoV-2 are still not known.  We concur with the position of 18 leading scientists who wrote in Science magazine44 in May, 2021: “We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data.” As a group of 16 scientists communicated in The Lancet45 in October, 2021: “Overwhelming evidence for either a zoonotic or research-related origin is lacking: the jury is still out.”
More than 2 years into the pandemic, the search for the origin of SARS-CoV-2 remains incomplete and inconclusive.

Independent experts consulted by the Lancet COVID-19 Commission shared the view that hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers are in play and need further investigation.

Furin cleavage sites are found naturally in almost every family of coronavirus,50,  51 although they have not been observed in other SARS-related coronaviruses (subgenus Sarbecoronavirus). Since 2006, following the emergence of severe acute respiratory syndrome, furin cleavage sites have also been the subject of laboratory manipulation, including their insertion into coronavirus spike proteins.52

Two main possible pathways of emergence have been identified.53 The first is that SARS-CoV-2 emerged from a natural spillover event—that is, from a non-research-related zoonotic transmission The second is that the virus emerged from research-related activities, with three possible research-related pathways: the infection of a researcher in the field while collecting samples, the infection of a researcher in the laboratory while studying viruses collected in their natural habitat, and the infection of a researcher in the laboratory while studying viruses that have been genetically manipulated.

The second possible pathway is a research-related or laboratory-associated release of the pathogen. Such a pathway could have involved a researcher becoming infected in the field or in the laboratory with a natural virus, or becoming infected in the laboratory with a genetically manipulated virus. Advances in biotechnology in the past two decades have made it possible to create new and highly dangerous pathogens through genetic manipulation—for example, creating chimeric viruses by combining the genetic material of more than one viral pathogen, or mutant viruses through the deliberate insertion of a furin cleavage site. The bioengineering of SARS-CoV-like viruses for the study and testing of potential drugs and vaccines advanced substantially after the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome in the 2000s.52,  64 Laboratory experiments included the creation of novel viruses (eg, so-called consensus viruses that average the genetic code across a set of natural viruses), the mutation of viruses (such as through the insertion of a furin cleavage site), the creation of chimeric viruses, and the serial passaging of viruses through cell cultures to test their transmissibility, virulence, immunogenicity, and host tropism. Research that can increase the transmissibility and virulence of pathogens is called gain-of-function research of concern, although which specific experiments should fall into this category is contested by scientists.As laboratory technologies have rapidly advanced, many scientists have warned of the increasing risks of undersupervised and under-regulated genetic manipulation of SARS-CoV-like viruses and other potential pandemic pathogens.65 There is currently no system for the global monitoring and regulation of gain-of-function research of concern.

As of the time of publication of this report, all three research-associated hypotheses are still plausible: infection in the field, infection with a natural virus in the laboratory, and infection with a manipulated virus in the laboratory. No independent, transparent, and science-based investigation has been carried out regarding the bioengineering of SARS-like viruses that was underway before the outbreak of COVID-19.

The laboratory notebooks, databases, email records, and samples of institutions involved in such research have not been made available to independent researchers. Independent researchers have not yet investigated the US laboratories engaged in the laboratory manipulation of SARS-CoV-like viruses, nor have they investigated the details of the laboratory research that had been underway in Wuhan.47

Moreover, the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) has resisted disclosing details of the research on SARS-CoV-related viruses that it had been supporting providing extensively redacted information only as required by Freedom of Information Act lawsuits.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)01585-9/fullt...

The NIH only released redacted info after lawsuit with FOI

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Reply #756 - Sep 16th, 2022 at 8:01pm
 
I posted actual scientific papers showing that it was extremely unlikely that the virus came from the lab and extremely likely that it came from the wet market.

It seems to annoy you that I did earn a BSc from Adelaide University. That is for you to deal with and me to laugh at.

Did you get a BSc, Baron?
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Reply #757 - Oct 4th, 2022 at 6:14pm
 
https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/absolute-proof-the-gp-120-sequences


Absolute proof:
The Gp-120 sequences prove beyond all doubt that "COVID-19" was man-made
The "missing link" was there in Pradhan's paper all along,
we just needed to ask the right question:
"where are the genome sequences for the Gp-120 inserts"



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Dr Ah Kahn Syed
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Following on from December’s article “How to BLAST your way to the truth about the origins of COVID-19” where I explained how the four “inserts” described in Pradhan’s Feb 2020 paper showed definitively that the SARS-CoV-2 genome had to have been man-made, there has been considerable interest and a lot of push-back from those whose reputations are on the line.

From what I can make out the main lines of rebuttal were one of these:

    “You are an anonymous troll” (anonymous - yes, a troll - only to those people)

    “those sequences exist in bacteria and it doesn’t matter that viruses can’t combine with bacterial sequences” (OK, no problem, let’s just turn virology on its head and go with your new dogma that you’ve just plucked out of thin air)

    “that 19nt sequence wasn’t actually claimed in the Moderna patent” (true, but it was still a Moderna sequence listed in the patent - they just didn’t want to patent all 30,000 of them because it would cost a fortune so they tricked Genbank into accepting them as patented sequences for free)

continued at the link above - a long read.
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Reply #758 - Oct 4th, 2022 at 6:56pm
 
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Pradhan’s Feb 2020 paper showed definitively that the SARS-CoV-2 genome had to have been man-made,


Just more SHOULD be lab made.

It wasn’t.
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Reply #759 - Oct 8th, 2022 at 12:32pm
 
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-10-07-lawsuit-filed-against-peter-daszak-ralph-...


Groundbreaking lawsuit filed against Peter Daszak, Ralph Baric
over SARS-CoV-2 gain of function research and hazardous RELEASE


Friday, October 07, 2022 by: Mike Adams      

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A groundbreaking lawsuit has been filed by attorney Thomas Renz, naming EcoHealth Alliance president Peter Daszak and University of North Carolina researcher Ralph Baric as defendants, claiming they are responsible for the deaths of plaintiffs due to their involvement in funding gain-of-function research of the SARS-CoV-2 virus which is believed to be responsible for the “covid pandemic.”

According to the lawsuit, a copy of which is posted at Renz-Law.com, Daszak and Baric conspired to circumvent gain-of-function funding restrictions and transfer both money and technology to Dr. Zheng-Li (the so-called “Bat Lady”) at the Wuhan bioweapons research facility in China, where the final work on SARS-CoV-2 was conducted, weaponizing it against humanity. Once completed, the weapon was released upon the world, causing the deaths of plaintiffs.


Also a video here:

https://www.brighteon.com/09548f67-95be-442b-9ace-42c4462bf6ae

Situation Update, Oct 7, 2022 - Groundbreaking lawsuit filed against Peter Daszak, Ralph Baric over SARS-CoV-2 gain of function research and hazardous RELEASE

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Reply #760 - Oct 9th, 2022 at 12:10pm
 
Well, I guess someone wants to make money out of the pandemic. Won’t succeed—virus came from the wet market.
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Reply #761 - Oct 9th, 2022 at 12:59pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 9th, 2022 at 12:10pm:
Well, I guess someone wants to make money out of the pandemic.
Won’t succeed—virus came from the wet market.



If Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric lose - will you apologise?
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Reply #762 - Oct 9th, 2022 at 7:24pm
 
Why should I?

The pandemic started in a wet market, like two pandemics before it. Why can’t you accept that? Your precious feelings? You being too thick to understand the scientific papers I quoted?

Just like the GSM means a mini ice age rubbish right? You have no idea about science, you are a cretin and can’t understand science papers, can you? Even if a GSM were happening it would not bring on an ice age.
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Reply #763 - Oct 9th, 2022 at 7:33pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 9th, 2022 at 7:24pm:
Why should I?

The pandemic started in a wet market, like two pandemics before it. Why can’t you accept that? Your precious feelings? You being too thick to understand the scientific papers I quoted?

Just like the GSM means a mini ice age rubbish right? You have no idea about science, you are a cretin and can’t understand science papers, can you? Even if a GSM were happening it would not bring on an ice age.



So - even if I'm proven correct in a court of law you still won't apologise.
That means you have been trolling this thread the whole time.
You have ASPD - see a doctor.
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Reply #764 - Oct 9th, 2022 at 8:33pm
 
As I explained in Food—you are the one with ASPD, you are a psychopath.

The SCIENTIFIC evidence is the pandemic came from the Wuhan wet market.
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