Jasin wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 7:16pm:


They are evidence that the UFO's exist yes, and it's a fun discussion point.

Like, for example, we exist.  Who is to say the same conditions that started life on this planet, if that's even where life originated and we're not just the evolution of simple bacterial life that travelled here on some space rock, didn't also originate elsewhere in the universe.

Life may be inevitable given the most common elements in the universe.

It would be presumptuous of us to think that we're the only life out there, or even the first life out there.

But that doesn't mean that the origin of the UFOs are alien.

If I were American I'd want their Government investigating these UFOs because what if they're not alien?  What if they are some new tech from a competing nation that would eclipe the capabilities of their defence force?

I'd want them to know and be working on the cutting edge to match and surpass it for our safety.

But at the same time, the discovery of life originatine elsewhere in the universe would be a humbling moment for humanity, especially if it's intelligent life.

To ruin that discovery with "well, I don't know what that is, therefore it must be aliens"...

Come on...

Discussion on the topic is welcomed, encouraged even.  But claiming something is something else without evidence simply because that's what you want it to be, or that's the only way you can be satisfied as having an answer, even an unproven and likely wrong one is better than it being an unknown, that's not good enough.

Light, I don't think even to this day, understands the difference between an opinion and a fact.  Everything he believed or thinks is true, in his world IS true.  No evidence is needed to decide and no evidence will change his mind.

This is a foolish and backwards way of thinking.

The truth is important, but even in the fringe, this forum exists for the no-mans land of where the truth and the unknown meet.

If we (as humanity, not those of us on the forum) don't stop looking across the boundary of what we know into the unknown our learning stops.

But the only thing worse than not seeking answers is accepting answers that are unproven.  That's not learning and that's not discovery. 

That's playacting the weak-minded who to their credit have the desire to explore and find out more, but not the capability to deal with not yet having all the answers.  It's a form of weakness, one that is sadly the driving force for people like Light.

This leads people down the path of being unable to tell facts from conspiracies.

In some cases it can be a weakness overcome, in others, it just leads people to find less conflict to their ideas seeking out more friendly echo chambers filled with others like them who not only need answers but know the answers they already want.

The Fringe to me is where we can all talk about the things we don't know and propose possible explanations and discuss their merits.

The UFO footage could be showing Alien spacecraft on earth.  But to say it IS Alien because you can't explain it, well that doesn't lead us to answers but worse stops us looking. 

It's a failure all too common in the Fringe.

I won't stop anyone discussing anything here.  I may add my opinion as to the quality of the evidence leading to a conclusion but that's it.

I will not moderate ideas only personal attacks that cross a line that thankfully nobody has done yet.  I don't want to ban anyone from the forums and all ideas are welcome.

But just because you're free to share ideas doesn't mean they won't be scrutinised.

It's like free speech, you're free to say what you want, but that doesn't mean you won't be held to account for what you say.

Some people want to say whatever they want and not have anyone question it.  Sadly, that's not a right people have and it triggers some to have a tanty and abandon threads or even the forum all together for somewhere that won't question them or even better, have an army of like-minded posters who will attack, on their behalf, anyone who does question their beliefs.

KangAnon wrote on May 22^nd, 2020 at 7:36am:


it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1559879841/0#0

You can't hide behind pseudo-religious talk It_is_the_Light this time. Fess up like a nasal spray.

KangAnon wrote on May 22^nd, 2020 at 7:36am:

You're simply trolling and it serves no purpose.  If you want to keep it up be my guest.

And I know this is what you want right, you want to push the envelope so you get moderated so you can whinge and moan about being a victim when you're being the attacker, the abuser?

Typical of someone as childish as you.

What you always leave out in your spam are the days and days of me asking you questions politely in reply to whatever the content and claims you were making at the time were and your disrespect in refusing to answer them and instead, you posted memes and attacked me.  Who are you to expect unlimited kindness and respect in the face that sort of behaviour? 

I replied in kind and you've not let it go for years.

Or don't you remember?  This is just a taste of the few posts I had asked you a question about your claims,

KangAnon wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 10:57am:


This is partly why you turned tail and left this place.  You want to make claims but not have people check their authenticity.

We have a long track record of me proving you wrong and it's evidenced at how triggered you are by constantly reposting the one "victory" you had over me which only proves that my earlier predication about you was true,

KangAnon wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:


Remember, respect goes both ways.  I showed you truckloads of undeserved respect for years and it was only ever met with petulant trolling and you've since lost that respect. 

You don't deserve to be treated politely until you earn it back, but here I am anyway, being polite and having a decent conversation and you again revert so spamming like the baby you are.

Why don't you go back to your US Message Board where nobody will question you and you can have your safe space?

You clearly don't want to take part in any reasonable discussions here, so it begs the question, if not to troll, why are you still here?

You've got so much red in your ledger I don't know why I'm still so polite to you.

So again, I will invite you to address the post you've tried to distract away from that JaSin brought to your attention,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1581500042/91#91

Or you can continue to troll, the choice is yours.  Your road to redemption could start here, or you could remove any doubt about your true intentions here.

Namaste.

Jasin wrote on May 23^rd, 2020 at 10:49am:



But Mr Sad may apply any rules he likes.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html

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master Light has to accept anything dished up to him.

and so it is
according to the DP.

namaste