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⮞ Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL ⮜ (Read 6538 times)
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Reply #45 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:16pm
 
Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:16pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm:
Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:52am:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:14am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am:
Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am:
"Promises made = promises kept".

A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before?

Well done President Trump.


So Mexico is paying for the wall?

Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again?



Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built.
Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. [highlight]A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"[/highlight]



100% Correct!!!
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Only the Butt-Hurt, Trump Hating, Leftist, KrustyKruntKrinton supporters get their panties in a twist because Trump didn't make Mexico pay for the wall, as if that means anything to us Americans.....Americans want the WALL first & foremost for the Security it provides.........a huge aid in keeping the sh!thole countries unwanted foreigners, people smugglers, drug cartels & gangs out. We couldn't give a rats ass who pays for it, or how much it costs.



Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history.

The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure.

Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay?


Millions, upon millions, upon millions of Americans will vote for President Trump in 2020, & they don't give a Royal Rat's Ass who pays for it........or where the President has to creatively get the funds to finance it........He's getting the Job done......Done for America.....Done for Americans!!!


Job Well Done President Trump.......Job Well Done!!

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Those voters probably don't know the REAL reason congress refused to approve the wall: it won't work.

Democrats and Republicans based their decision on a congressional report that showed the border needs a range of measures, including electrical signalling, drones, aerial surveillance and border personnel. Barriers have a role around high population areas, but they're pointless in remote places where people can just go under or over them.

The report was written by the border experts, including the ones who told Mr Trump a wall's no good because you need to see what's on the other side.

Now that's okay. You don't have to agree with everything Mr Trump says, dear. You're allowed to side with the experts occasionally.

Aren't you?




Same experts that said Trump couldn't win the Presidency in 2016 became border experts now!! http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gifhttp://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gif

I want a Southern Border Wall between the USA & Mexico......period.

I will, because I am an American Citizen living in Australia, I repeat, I will vote for President Donald John Trump in November (actually earlier) because that wall WILL protect America, & keep UNWANTED non-Americans out!!!



No, dear, experts from the US Border Patrol. They're the ones who chase the illegals round the desert and LOCK THEM UP, you know?

And they're saying a wall isn't going to KEEP UNWANTED NON-AMERICANS OUT.

So I'm curious. Why do you want a wall?
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Reply #46 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:25pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 8:13pm:
Great video Panther.


The video shows existing wall being replaced.

It's not new wall being constructed.

They're just doing regular maintenance, which has been going on long before the alleged child rapist became President.

No new segments of wall have been built, and no money has come from Mexico.

Once gain, Trump has failed miserably.

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Reply #47 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:33pm
 
Mexico is offering 2 goal-posts on the border but Trump wants a deal to have US flags on both and have wheels fitted.
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Reply #48 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:12pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:09pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 1:10pm:
The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall"


Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it.

That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim.

My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare?

Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare?


What goalposts?, you're talking in cliches. The promise was to build a barrier, a high barrier, didn't you watch the drone video? Long stretches of that new high barrier getting concreted into the ground over that open ground that previously had only speed bumps as a barrier, if there was any at all in some places - they'd stop no one

I've already given my honest opinion about who should pay. If the fence is exactly on the border line, then both parties should share the costs. Now go and annoy someone else with your health and Obama care. Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier and that's all that matters - period
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Reply #49 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:19pm
 
Does great America matter?  Fiddling the Mexican books and fiddling the Pentagon books is not great.  Except for a crim mentality.
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Re: ⮞ Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL ⮜
Reply #50 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:06pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:09pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 1:10pm:
The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall"


Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it.

That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim.

My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare?

Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare?


What goalposts?, you're talking in cliches. The promise was to build a barrier, a high barrier, didn't you watch the drone video? Long stretches of that new high barrier getting concreted into the ground over that open ground that previously had only speed bumps as a barrier, if there was any at all in some places - they'd stop no one

I've already given my honest opinion about who should pay. If the fence is exactly on the border line, then both parties should share the costs. Now go and annoy someone else with your health and Obama care. Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier and that's all that matters - period


Trump's promise was always to build the wall and have Mexico to pay for it.  He suggested they'd have to make a one off $5-$10 billion dollar payment.  Payment in actual money.

Now not only has he not come good on that, but the costs have also blown out despite him promising he was the only one who could build the wall for $10-$12 billion while his other Republican Primary challengers would need $20-$30 billion to do it.

Well, turns out he needs that too, more even.

But since we're able to pick and choose what promises he makes matter, which need to be kept and which are like "core" promises, I suppose as I said Healthcare would get that same treatment, but what about his lies about Soleimani being an imminent threat, are he just going to pretend he never said that now that a White House memo has been released showing that he wasn't at all an imminent threat?

Like where does this "we will decide what things Trump says needs to be true or not" end?  Is it just campaign promises, or things he says as President too?

Hell, he even admitted after he was exonerated that he sent Giuliano off to Ukraine to get dirt on Biden, one of the things during the investigation and trial he claimed never ever happened.

Does that matter?  Or is he lying about lying? 2 wrongs make a right?

It used to be so simple.  Government officials were held to a strict standard of having to be law-abiding and being punished if their lies were exposed or they were proven to have broken the law.  But not Trump.  His supporters condone his lying, defend it and turn a blind eye to him breaking the law and the Republicans abandoning their oath of office to cover it up.

But with Trump, we just get to rewrite history or just ignore lies we don't like.

What did that become acceptable, and not only that, defended by the tards?

The same tards who wanted to lock Clinton up for being a liar...
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Reply #51 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 5:31pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:09pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 1:10pm:
The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall"


Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it.

That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim.

My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare?

Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare?


What goalposts?, you're talking in cliches. The promise was to build a barrier, a high barrier, didn't you watch the drone video? Long stretches of that new high barrier getting concreted into the ground over that open ground that previously had only speed bumps as a barrier, if there was any at all in some places - they'd stop no one

I've already given my honest opinion about who should pay. If the fence is exactly on the border line, then both parties should share the costs. Now go and annoy someone else with your health and Obama care. Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier and that's all that matters - period


Not at all, dear. Mr Trump was very specific on this - he made that point. Specific. He promised a big, beautiful wall, over 30 feet high, from one ocean to the other. A wall the bad people can't get over or under. And right in the middle, he said, we'll put a nice big door where we can invite in anyone we want.

And I know how to build things, he said, believe me.

Mr Trump later considered moats with alligators and snakes, electric fencing, poisoned spikes, etc, but the planners wouldn't let him do it. Too PC, he said. No imagination.

So he settled on repairs to existing border fencing instead. How marvellous and glorious - more American than the State of Liberty, no? Mr Trump will try to fit a door in to let all the nice people in.

But if he had just said "high barrier", do you really think anyone would vote for that?
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Reply #52 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 5:44pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:06pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:09pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 1:10pm:
The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall"


Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it.

That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim.

My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare?

Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare?


What goalposts?, you're talking in cliches. The promise was to build a barrier, a high barrier, didn't you watch the drone video? Long stretches of that new high barrier getting concreted into the ground over that open ground that previously had only speed bumps as a barrier, if there was any at all in some places - they'd stop no one

I've already given my honest opinion about who should pay. If the fence is exactly on the border line, then both parties should share the costs. Now go and annoy someone else with your health and Obama care. Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier and that's all that matters - period


Trump's promise was always to build the wall and have Mexico to pay for it.  He suggested they'd have to make a one off $5-$10 billion dollar payment.  Payment in actual money.

Now not only has he not come good on that, but the costs have also blown out despite him promising he was the only one who could build the wall for $10-$12 billion while his other Republican Primary challengers would need $20-$30 billion to do it.

Well, turns out he needs that too, more even.

But since we're able to pick and choose what promises he makes matter, which need to be kept and which are like "core" promises, I suppose as I said Healthcare would get that same treatment, but what about his lies about Soleimani being an imminent threat, are he just going to pretend he never said that now that a White House memo has been released showing that he wasn't at all an imminent threat?

Like where does this "we will decide what things Trump says needs to be true or not" end?  Is it just campaign promises, or things he says as President too?

Hell, he even admitted after he was exonerated that he sent Giuliano off to Ukraine to get dirt on Biden, one of the things during the investigation and trial he claimed never ever happened.

Does that matter?  Or is he lying about lying? 2 wrongs make a right?

It used to be so simple.  Government officials were held to a strict standard of having to be law-abiding and being punished if their lies were exposed or they were proven to have broken the law.  But not Trump.  His supporters condone his lying, defend it and turn a blind eye to him breaking the law and the Republicans abandoning their oath of office to cover it up.

But with Trump, we just get to rewrite history or just ignore lies we don't like.

What did that become acceptable, and not only that, defended by the tards?

The same tards who wanted to lock Clinton up for being a liar...


Yes, but Hillary lied about her email server. Can you believe it?

Okay, maybe not lied, but she didn't tell the whole story. You know that, it's just a fact.

Obama, if you remember, lied about his religion and which country he was born in. Unbelievable, but the leftards let him get away with that, as usual.

Emails, Muslims, being born in Africa, is there anything the leftards won't lie about?

We need Mr Trump in the White House to restore dignity to the office once more, to bring people together again. If Mr Trump can't do that, who can?
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Reply #53 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 5:44pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier ...


No, he's not.

He's repairing the existing "barrier", that's all.

The same repairs that have been going on long before the alleged child rapist become President.

He said he would build a wall, and that Mexico would pay for it.

"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively.

"I will build a great great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall."


He lied.

Thoughts?
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Reply #54 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 5:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 5:44pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:12pm:
Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier ...


No, he's not.

He's repairing the existing "barrier", that's all.

The same repairs that have been going on long before the alleged child rapist become President.

He said he would build a wall, and that Mexico would pay for it.

"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively.

"I will build a great great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall."


He lied.

Thoughts?


I think building costs must have gone up. Mr Trump just didn't factor in the cost of all those steel poles. Things just aren't cheap like they used to be, that's not Mr Trump's fault. They are made in America, you know. Mr Trump always buys American.

Don't worry, the Mexicans will pay for it one way or another, Mr Trump always promised that. I bet he stiffs them on a trade deal.

Suck on that, Mexico.
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Reply #55 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 6:08pm
 
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Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL


Didn't think that Mexico's military had that much money to throw at a useless expensive pink elephant ?

Whoops - Mexico aren't paying are they, I forgot.
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Reply #56 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 6:14pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 6:08pm:
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Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL


Didn't think that Mexico's military had that much money to throw at a useless expensive pink elephant ?

Whoops - Mexico aren't paying are they, I forgot.


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Reply #57 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 6:14pm
 
In 2010, Mexicans were 10% of the US, 31,798,258 .  Although Bloomberg has Au$90,000,000, and Trump has Au$4.3 bn. not all citizens have many beans in the cup. But on average they can chuck in a few dimes and Mexicans do around 10% for Unca Donald and Disneyland Fun Park.
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Reply #58 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 7:33pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 6:08pm:
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Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL


Didn't think that Mexico's military had that much money to throw at a useless expensive pink elephant ?

Whoops - Mexico aren't paying are they, I forgot.


No, they are. Mr Trump's planning on ripping them off in some way to get the money back.

It's how you're supposed to do business, you see.
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Reply #59 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 7:35pm
 
chimera wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 6:14pm:
In 2010, Mexicans were 10% of the US, 31,798,258 .  Although Bloomberg has Au$90,000,000, and Trump has Au$4.3 bn. not all citizens have many beans in the cup. But on average they can chuck in a few dimes and Mexicans do around 10% for Unca Donald and Disneyland Fun Park.


That's another thing. Not only will Mr Trump get them to pay, he'll get them to vote for him as well.

We'll win so much we'll get tired of winning, no?
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