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Reply #60 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:41pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:05pm:

Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history.

The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure.

Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay?

You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States

Fail: No president has ever undermined the constitution the way that Trump has - not even close.

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Reply #61 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:45pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 11:56am:

but as I said, it's more important to get the barrier built, even if the US pays the whole cost, it will be money well spent

Which is a broken promise by Trump. As is the cost of the wall. He said it would cost him $10-$12 Billion because he's in construction, and Mexico would pay for it because he makes deals.

He's failed on both of those claims.

Now you, he and all his supporters are still trying to claim the wall as a win when it's multiple monumental failures covered by changing goalposts as you've just done.

Trump touted his skill as a negotiation and construction magnate and he has not delivered.

These are indisputable facts with video and direct quotes to back it up.

You don't care because you support Trump, I understand that, but fact is fact.

The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall", and he's now getting it built. No one really expected Mexico to come to the party with the money. My own belief was that Mexico would be obliged to pay half. However, the new fence is on US land and not precisely on the exact border I believe. If that is the case, my own opinion is that Mexico has the right to refuse payment, but if the new fence is exactly on the border, then Mexico is obliged to pay half, and to pay for monitoring of their side

I personally thought of Trump's statement of getting Mexico to pay for the wall as being neither here nor there, but I could sense that he'd get the money from somewhere no matter what, and he is, and the barrier is getting built, end of story

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The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall"

Then why are they extending a pre existing fence ? Still no wall even planned to commence ?

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Reply #62 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:51pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:05pm:

Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history.

The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure.

Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay?

You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States

Fail: No president has ever undermined the constitution the way that Trump has - not even close.

Of course you're kidding

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10874 armidale Gender:	Re: ⮞ Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL ⮜ Reply #63 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:52pm Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:35pm: That's another thing. Not only will Mr Trump get them to pay, he'll get them to vote for him as well. A Mex born in US can become El Presidente with a rusting steel unbeautiful from sea to shining sea. He'll pay.
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Reply #64 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:53pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:05pm:

Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history.

The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure.

Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay?

You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States

Fail: No president has ever undermined the constitution the way that Trump has - not even close.

I dare say he'll go down in history as the only alleged child rapist President to be impeached more than once.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10874 armidale Gender:	Re: ⮞ Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL ⮜ Reply #65 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:54pm .
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: ⮞ Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL ⮜ Reply #66 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:56pm Gotta say this about Trump- he said he'd build that wall and it's getting built. And it's a absolute ripper.
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Reply #67 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:02pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:05pm:

Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history.

The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure.

Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay?

You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States

Fail: No president has ever undermined the constitution the way that Trump has - not even close.

Yes, but you have to break a few eggs to get back at the leftards, no?

And those Mexicans - seriously. They've been playing America like a fool for years.

It's not Mexico's fault, they're just doing what the tinted races do. The Chinks, the Spics, the Towel-Heads, they've been ripping off Whitey since day 1.

The Saudis are okay. And the Turks - and the Russians. They might have done Sept 11, killed America's friends the Kurds, and sabotaged the 2016 erection, but who's sending in rapists, murderers, drug dealers and some, I assume, are good people?

Besides, Mr Trump has investments in Riyadh, Istanbul and Moscow, so he knows how the world works. He's just telling it like it is, no?

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20076 Perth Gender:	Re: ⮞ Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL ⮜ Reply #68 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:02pm A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead???
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: ⮞ Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL ⮜ Reply #69 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:04pm philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary?
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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10874 armidale Gender:	Re: ⮞ Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL ⮜ Reply #70 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:11pm "Gotta say this about Trump- he said he'd build that wall and it's getting built." Yes , President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is quietly proud of his partnership . The construction by patriotic Mexicans has become a monument to their vision.
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Reply #71 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:13pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:02pm:

A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead???

Roll Eyes

Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? Roll Eyes

Do you mean Lying Hillary?

Be specific, Homo.

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Reply #72 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:17pm

chimera wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:11pm:

"Gotta say this about Trump- he said he'd build that wall and it's getting built."

Yes , President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is quietly proud of his partnership . The construction by patriotic Mexicans has become a monument to their vision.

You take that back, Chimera. Mr Trump thought of it first. The Mexicans are just jumping on the bandwagon.

Typical.

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Reply #73 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:18pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:02pm:

A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead???

Roll Eyes

Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? Roll Eyes

Do you mean Lying Hillary?

Be specific, Homo.

syphilitic Hillary babe.

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Reply #74 - Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:22pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:02pm:

A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead???

Roll Eyes

Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? Roll Eyes

Do you mean Lying Hillary?

Be specific, Homo.

syphilitic Hillary babe.

No, that's someone else. No one would touch the despicable Lying Hillary, she wears pants suits.

You?

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