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Reply #75 - Feb 22nd, 2020 at 11:57pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Good point, Phil. But do you think the Democrats should LOCK THEM UP, SEND THEM BACK and REMOVE THEIR KIDS?

I'm curious. Do you think the Democrats should try to be as pathological as the Trump administration?

After all, they haven't got a hope anyway. Mr Trump will win. Do you really think the Democrat candidate should destroy their credibility for a generation, Hillary-style (when she voted to invade Iraq), in the vain attempt to match Mr Trump?
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Reply #76 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 5:34pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 11:57pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Good point, Phil. But do you think the Democrats should LOCK THEM UP, SEND THEM BACK and REMOVE THEIR KIDS?

I'm curious. Do you think the Democrats should try to be as pathological as the Trump administration?

After all, they haven't got a hope anyway. Mr Trump will win. Do you really think the Democrat candidate should destroy their credibility for a generation, Hillary-style (when she voted to invade Iraq), in the vain attempt to match Mr Trump?


No....However many Trump supporters have genuine concerns about illegal immigrants and the Democrats ignore them with accusations....Trump is going over the top but he is the only option for a lot of Americans....The problem is those with genuine concerns that do not align with the political left are ridiculed and there opinions are rejected out of hand....Who is listening to them and giving many Americans no other option???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #77 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:20pm
 
From Psychology Today -

"Suicide, stress, divorce -- psychologists and other mental health professionals may actually be more screwed up than the rest of us."

"The problem is that mental health professionals—particularly psychologists—do a poor job of monitoring their own mental health problems and those of their colleagues. In fact, the main responsibility for spotting an impaired therapist seems to fall on the patient, who presumably has his or her own problems to deal with. That's just nuts."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/199707/why-shrinks-have-problems
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Reply #78 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:20pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 5:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 11:57pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Good point, Phil. But do you think the Democrats should LOCK THEM UP, SEND THEM BACK and REMOVE THEIR KIDS?

I'm curious. Do you think the Democrats should try to be as pathological as the Trump administration?

After all, they haven't got a hope anyway. Mr Trump will win. Do you really think the Democrat candidate should destroy their credibility for a generation, Hillary-style (when she voted to invade Iraq), in the vain attempt to match Mr Trump?


No....However many Trump supporters have genuine concerns about illegal immigrants and the Democrats ignore them with accusations....Trump is going over the top but he is the only option for a lot of Americans....The problem is those with genuine concerns that do not align with the political left are ridiculed and there opinions are rejected out of hand....Who is listening to them and giving many Americans no other option???

Huh Huh Huh



a hero of the democratic party who demanded the deportation of illegal migrants for undercutting union wages

Cesar Chavez (born César Estrada Chávez, locally [ˈsesaɾ esˈtɾaða ˈtʃaβes]; March 31, 1927 – April 23, 1993) was an American labor leader, community organizer, and Latino American civil rights activist. Along with Dolores Huerta, he co-founded the National Farm Workers Association (NFWA), later renamed the United Farm Workers (UFW) union.

how would he go with the current leftie intellectual elite ?
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Reply #79 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:21pm
 
The UFW during Chavez's tenure was committed to restricting import of immigrant labor. On a few occasions, concerns that illegal immigrant labor would undermine UFW strike campaigns led to a number of controversial events, which the UFW describes as anti-strikebreaking events, but which have also been interpreted as being anti-immigrant. In 1969, Chavez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valleys to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of illegal immigrants as strikebreakers. Joining him on the march were Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale.[117] In its early years, the UFW and Chavez went so far as to report illegal immigrants who served as strikebreaking replacement workers
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Reply #80 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:46pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 5:34pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 11:57pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Good point, Phil. But do you think the Democrats should LOCK THEM UP, SEND THEM BACK and REMOVE THEIR KIDS?

I'm curious. Do you think the Democrats should try to be as pathological as the Trump administration?

After all, they haven't got a hope anyway. Mr Trump will win. Do you really think the Democrat candidate should destroy their credibility for a generation, Hillary-style (when she voted to invade Iraq), in the vain attempt to match Mr Trump?


No....However many Trump supporters have genuine concerns about illegal immigrants and the Democrats ignore them with accusations....Trump is going over the top but he is the only option for a lot of Americans....The problem is those with genuine concerns that do not align with the political left are ridiculed and there opinions are rejected out of hand....Who is listening to them and giving many Americans no other option???

Huh Huh Huh


Separating families and putting young children into cages isn't aimed at people with genuine concerns.
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Reply #81 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:48pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:21pm:
The UFW during Chavez's tenure was committed to restricting import of immigrant labor. On a few occasions, concerns that illegal immigrant labor would undermine UFW strike campaigns led to a number of controversial events, which the UFW describes as anti-strikebreaking events, but which have also been interpreted as being anti-immigrant. In 1969, Chavez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valleys to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of illegal immigrants as strikebreakers. Joining him on the march were Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale.[117] In its early years, the UFW and Chavez went so far as to report illegal immigrants who served as strikebreaking replacement workers


Deflection seldom works well.

Besides the article is unlikely to help you.

You would keep a team of research psychologists occupied for decades.
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Reply #82 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:55pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:21pm:
The UFW during Chavez's tenure was committed to restricting import of immigrant labor. On a few occasions, concerns that illegal immigrant labor would undermine UFW strike campaigns led to a number of controversial events, which the UFW describes as anti-strikebreaking events, but which have also been interpreted as being anti-immigrant. In 1969, Chavez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valleys to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of illegal immigrants as strikebreakers. Joining him on the march were Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale.[117] In its early years, the UFW and Chavez went so far as to report illegal immigrants who served as strikebreaking replacement workers


Deflection seldom works well.

Besides the article is unlikely to help you.

You would keep a team of research psychologists occupied for decades.



this union hero of the democratic party EVEN TRIED TO BUILD A WALL

the United Farm Workers set up a "wet line" along the United States-Mexico border to prevent Mexican immigrants from entering the United States illegally and potentially undermining the UFW's unionization efforts.[123] During one such event, in which Chavez was not involved, some UFW members, under the guidance of Chavez's cousin Manuel, physically attacked the strikebreakers after peaceful attempts to persuade them not to cross the border failed
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Reply #83 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:59pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Quote:
hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem.


I suspect that Like Australia illegal immigration is a political tool that in reality isn't a problem at all, just good for elections to lock in the paranoid redneck voting block.
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Reply #84 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm
 
athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am:
I think they're approaching it from the wrong side.

People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people.

Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person.


They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty....




You are totally wrong, President Trump is different.
He has moral integrity.
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Reply #85 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:06pm
 
Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support

Whites - Nah, He got HUGE support from 'non-whites'.
Now millions more of them are employed .....

Men, Nah - as above.

Christians - Yes. He is a good solid Christian. That aligns with the above observations.

Achievers - yep, He achieves.

Patriots- Yep, He is ON Americas side.



I'm struggling here. Can anyone help?
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Reply #86 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm
 
capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm:
athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am:
I think they're approaching it from the wrong side.

People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people.

Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person.


They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty....




You are totally wrong, President Trump is different.
He has moral integrity.


There has never been a politician with less integrity.
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Reply #87 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:20pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:06pm:
Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support

Whites - Nah, He got HUGE support from 'non-whites'.
Now millions more of them are employed .....

Men, Nah - as above.

Christians - Yes. He is a good solid Christian. That aligns with the above observations.

Achievers - yep, He achieves.

Patriots- Yep, He is ON Americas side.



I'm struggling here. Can anyone help?



Yes - Take option "d" none of the above.
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Reply #88 - Feb 24th, 2020 at 2:49am
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm:
capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm:
athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am:
I think they're approaching it from the wrong side.

People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people.

Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person.


They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty....




You are totally wrong, President Trump is different.
He has moral integrity.


There has never been a politician with less integrity.


Let me introduce you to logic. Its the language of the universe - you cannot deny it.

There has never been a President who has fulfilled or is fulfilling his pre-election promises as Trump has. NEVER! Wall, sanctuary cities, redressing trade imbalances, taxes overturning insane left wing programs................

You endlessly grind out these mindless stimulus response knee jerk reactions. Are you insane Ducky?
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Reply #89 - Feb 24th, 2020 at 6:21am
 
Logic
That's truly laughable

People don't vote based on logic

They vote based on their temperament there  emotions
And their personal psychology

Go talk to a 17 year old and tell them to turn off the rap music and listen to Beethoven because logically he produces superior music
Argue tell ur blue in the face

Understand the game you're playing and then play that game
If you win then what you are presenting is basically the truth
Trump sits in the oval office
Trump has played the game of American politics
So by the definition of the game itself Trump is the truth

The truth is not contained in 100 pages of civil service data
The truth is contained in the results of the winner of the game that we have all decided to play
That game is called American politics
Trump has understood the game
And Trump is the truth

If you cannot accept that
You have a derangement syndrome
Trump has entered your brain like a virus
He is in your head and you can't get him out
Richard Dawkins talks about the idea of memes as some sort of mind virus
That's the Donald
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