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Reply #15 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 7:43am

AiA wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 7:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 7:33am:

AiA wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 7:21am:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 6:37am:

AiA wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 6:31am:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 6:04am:

Pretty angry responses in here to the death of an adventurer

maybe some feel threatened and have less confidence in their assertions than they profess?

He was a stunt man who spread ignorance and misery. I am fine with the stunt man part, but he did real damage with his lies.

I'd hardly call him an adventurer.

I'd never heard of him before. What damage did he do?

He was a leader of the doubters of scientific expertise as a whole and that everything one doesn't believe in is "fake news."

Sure, but nowhere near as harmful as the anti-vaxxer Hollywood elites or the constant stream of crap from the likes of gwyneth paltrow, all who don't get anywhere near the level of criticism from the media because they're mostly politically left.

Hopefully Weinstein can rape her before he goes to jail ...

He'd have to take the candles out first.

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Reply #16 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 8:10am

PZ547 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 6:04am:

Pretty angry responses in here to the death of an adventurer

maybe some feel threatened and have less confidence in their assertions than they profess?

I applaud his willingness to try and find evidence to prove his hypothesis, but, like most flat earthers, he's made his mind up and nothing was going to change it.

He would have been better flying a Cessna, it would have got him higher that he achieved.

But really, he should have just used a balloon. He could have seen the curvature at 80,000ft, but the latest balloon skydive record was at 135,890ft.

He could have seen it with his own eyes and not had to worry about a rocket that he clearly was not capable of designing and piloting.

He's "red-pilled" countless other flatards and while his death is a waste of human life, at least we only have to deal with his legacy now.

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Reply #17 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 10:10am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 8:10am:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 6:04am:

Pretty angry responses in here to the death of an adventurer

maybe some feel threatened and have less confidence in their assertions than they profess?

I applaud his willingness to try and find evidence to prove his hypothesis, but, like most flat earthers, he's made his mind up and nothing was going to change it.

He would have been better flying a Cessna, it would have got him higher that he achieved.

But really, he should have just used a balloon. He could have seen the curvature at 80,000ft, but the latest balloon skydive record was at 135,890ft.

He could have seen it with his own eyes and not had to worry about a rocket that he clearly was not capable of designing and piloting.

He's "red-pilled" countless other flatards and while his death is a waste of human life, at least we only have to deal with his legacy now.

Why don't you speak out against anti-vaxxers like you do people like this?

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KangAnon Moderator Online The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 18162 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: Mad Mike Reply #18 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 10:25am I do. Their ignorance is not as good as a scientists knowledge but the notion of media "balance" often gives them the same platform. They are entitled to their opinions, but the moment they spread them as fact, they become liars. And if they spread it as fact knowing it is not supported by evidence they are both liars and frauds.
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Reply #19 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 10:26am

Gordon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 10:10am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 8:10am:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 6:04am:

Pretty angry responses in here to the death of an adventurer

maybe some feel threatened and have less confidence in their assertions than they profess?

I applaud his willingness to try and find evidence to prove his hypothesis, but, like most flat earthers, he's made his mind up and nothing was going to change it.

He would have been better flying a Cessna, it would have got him higher that he achieved.

But really, he should have just used a balloon. He could have seen the curvature at 80,000ft, but the latest balloon skydive record was at 135,890ft.

He could have seen it with his own eyes and not had to worry about a rocket that he clearly was not capable of designing and piloting.

He's "red-pilled" countless other flatards and while his death is a waste of human life, at least we only have to deal with his legacy now.

Why don't you speak out against anti-vaxxers like you do people like this?

Glad you directed that at Sad Kan and not me.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #20 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 10:38am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 10:25am:

I do.

Their ignorance is not as good as a scientists knowledge but the notion of media "balance" often gives them the same platform.

They are entitled to their opinions, but the moment they spread them as fact, they become liars.

And if they spread it as fact knowing it is not supported by evidence they are both liars and frauds.

What I don't like about flat earthers is their anti-science message seeps into other areas, but for the most part I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people on the net who call themselves a flat eather take that position for no other reason than for a bit of fun. Remember, it started on Reddit as a joke.

Anti-vaxxers however kill people and the American left wing media should be eviscerating every time they open their mouths, yet they don't.

Most of the Hollywood elite who are AV and anti-GMO are given a big fat pass because they are also anti-trump.

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KangAnon Moderator Online The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 18162 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: Mad Mike Reply #21 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:01am Anti-GMO, please don't get me started...
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20790 Gordon Gender:	Re: Mad Mike Reply #22 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:13am KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:01am: Anti-GMO, please don't get me started... Off you go... Most anti-vaxxers would also be anti-GMO.
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Reply #23 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:27am

I'm not the most highly educated person in the world, but all it takes is a basic high school level of scientific education to not be fooled by the bullshit around anti-vaxx and anti-GMO and at least ask the right questions, evaluate evidence and be able to draw the right conclusions.

Why is it always the same type of people that are so desperate for answers that when they've given them, but don't understand them, decide to substitute things they can understand, like 9/11 being an inside job, COVID-19 being manmade and released on purpose, climate change being a hoax because it rained or snowed or "I don't remember these types of clouds from when I was a kid, CHEMTRAILS!".

Has modern education really failed so many people?

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Reply #24 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:42am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:27am:

I'm not the most highly educated person in the world, but all it takes is a basic high school level of scientific education to not be fooled by the bullshit around anti-vaxx and anti-GMO and at least ask the right questions, evaluate evidence and be able to draw the right conclusions.

Why is it always the same type of people that are so desperate for answers that when they've given them, but don't understand them, decide to substitute things they can understand, like 9/11 being an inside job, COVID-19 being manmade and released on purpose, climate change being a hoax because it rained or snowed or "I don't remember these types of clouds from when I was a kid, CHEMTRAILS!".

Has modern education really failed so many people?

Thanks to the left wing media failing to attack the likes of Gwyneth Paltrow, anti-vaxx and anti-GMO have been allowed to become mainstream views.

All the other stuff you mentioned is widely considered to be wackadoodle.

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Reply #25 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:51am

Gordon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:42am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:27am:

I'm not the most highly educated person in the world, but all it takes is a basic high school level of scientific education to not be fooled by the bullshit around anti-vaxx and anti-GMO and at least ask the right questions, evaluate evidence and be able to draw the right conclusions.

Why is it always the same type of people that are so desperate for answers that when they've given them, but don't understand them, decide to substitute things they can understand, like 9/11 being an inside job, COVID-19 being manmade and released on purpose, climate change being a hoax because it rained or snowed or "I don't remember these types of clouds from when I was a kid, CHEMTRAILS!".

Has modern education really failed so many people?

Thanks to the left wing media failing to attack the likes of Gwyneth Paltrow, anti-vaxx and anti-GMO have been allowed to become mainstream views.

All the other stuff you mentioned is widely considered to be wackadoodle.

Left wing media are too scared to do what the Right do, but in reverse.

They're so worried about being accused of bias that they give platforms to fake news which allows those pushing it to disguide opinion as fact.

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Reply #26 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:59am

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:51am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:42am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:27am:

I'm not the most highly educated person in the world, but all it takes is a basic high school level of scientific education to not be fooled by the bullshit around anti-vaxx and anti-GMO and at least ask the right questions, evaluate evidence and be able to draw the right conclusions.

Why is it always the same type of people that are so desperate for answers that when they've given them, but don't understand them, decide to substitute things they can understand, like 9/11 being an inside job, COVID-19 being manmade and released on purpose, climate change being a hoax because it rained or snowed or "I don't remember these types of clouds from when I was a kid, CHEMTRAILS!".

Has modern education really failed so many people?

Thanks to the left wing media failing to attack the likes of Gwyneth Paltrow, anti-vaxx and anti-GMO have been allowed to become mainstream views.

All the other stuff you mentioned is widely considered to be wackadoodle.

Left wing media are too scared to do what the Right do, but in reverse.

They're so worried about being accused of bias that they give platforms to fake news which allows those pushing it to disguide opinion as fact.

I know you'll think I'm playing the left/right thing but in this case I'm really not. I come out against anti-science nutbags off all political persuasions.

Think about it, if they went really hard against the Hollywood elite for anti-vax, anti GMO and all the other wooowooo crap they push, they'd cut themselves off from access to them. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they're into it themselves!

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Reply #27 - Feb 25^th, 2020 at 12:07pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:59am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:51am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:42am:

KangAnon wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 11:27am:

I'm not the most highly educated person in the world, but all it takes is a basic high school level of scientific education to not be fooled by the bullshit around anti-vaxx and anti-GMO and at least ask the right questions, evaluate evidence and be able to draw the right conclusions.

Why is it always the same type of people that are so desperate for answers that when they've given them, but don't understand them, decide to substitute things they can understand, like 9/11 being an inside job, COVID-19 being manmade and released on purpose, climate change being a hoax because it rained or snowed or "I don't remember these types of clouds from when I was a kid, CHEMTRAILS!".

Has modern education really failed so many people?

Thanks to the left wing media failing to attack the likes of Gwyneth Paltrow, anti-vaxx and anti-GMO have been allowed to become mainstream views.

All the other stuff you mentioned is widely considered to be wackadoodle.

Left wing media are too scared to do what the Right do, but in reverse.

They're so worried about being accused of bias that they give platforms to fake news which allows those pushing it to disguide opinion as fact.

I know you'll think I'm playing the left/right thing but in this case I'm really not. I come out against anti-science nutbags off all political persuasions.

Think about it, if they went really hard against the Hollywood elite for anti-vax, anti GMO and all the other wooowooo crap they push, they'd cut themselves off from access to them. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they're into it themselves!

The problem is that they come up against the like of Fox who will lambast them for pushing an agenda and being bias while themselves doing the same thing.

The media is broken, but "citizen journalism" is worse and it's not the answer. People are too stupid for that and will believe thing that they like to be true over what is actually true.

The misinformation about COVID-19 is a great and sadly ever-continuing example.

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