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Reply #75 - Mar 11th, 2020 at 6:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
The estimate is 45 million people dead as a minimum.


According to whom?

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Reply #76 - Mar 11th, 2020 at 6:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 6:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
The estimate is 45 million people dead as a minimum.


According to whom?





Arithmetic:



The estimate is 45 million people dead as a minimum.

45 million people dead refers to a 1% death rate
from 7.5 billion people with a 60% rate of
them contracting the virus.

A 3.4% death rate equals 153 million people dead.
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Reply #77 - Mar 11th, 2020 at 6:15pm
 
Sophia wrote on Mar 5th, 2020 at 9:52pm:
My elderly mother always had flu shots, then she would have a cold and sniffle for a couple months after.
My daughter in law and I discussed it. She point blank asked me if I get the flu shot.
I said I never want any crap injected into my blood, expecting her to oppose it, yet she felt exactly the same, says her elder sister gets the flu shot then is always sick after.

Years ago, I would get the flu and would be ill for a good week or two.
I changed my diet, less dairy, less meat, less bread, less processed foods, no sugary drinks, less sugar, more vitamins and minerals, and fresh foods. More water with a dash of lemon.
Now if I get a flu, it lasts from beginning to peak to end about 4 days and not bed ridden, albeit I do feel lethargic, so I rest more.

I must have done something to help my immune system cope better and have milder effect.
Particularly as one ages, they say we should get the flu shot, but haven’t to date.
Should I worry?

Many years ago, before the advent of the internet, I read how 7 day Adventist’s would live approx 20 years longer than the average person, due to their meat free diet and other dietary reasons.
It’s actually very interesting.

Seventh-Day Adventists live longer and have 30% lower cancer risks compared to other Americans thanks to the religion's strict diet and lifestyle practices, study finds. Seventh-Day Adventists have a lower cancer risk and a longer life expectancy than the general US population, a new study suggests.Nov 27, 2019



Seven Day Adventists also allow themselves & their children to die from preventable & curable diseases according to their personal belief of what Adventism means to them. 

Similar to Jehovahs Witnesses.
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Reply #78 - Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:04pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 2:19pm:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 11:40am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 11:01am:
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confirmed infected...      10149


How many unconfirmed infected?

Given that the symptoms are very mild in most cases I would suggest that there is a much larger group of unconfirmed infected.

So your 6.21% death rate is incorrect and alarmist nonsense



They can only report on confirmed cases,

but when people use that to calculate death rates everything you've said need to be kept in mind.




I'll keep it in mind that we do not know, what we do not know.

And that we can not know, what we do not yet know.

And that we can only know what we do know.



But in the meantime, there are some known known's.....

Earlier today.....





Data for today, provided by Johns Hopkins University.

Italy            confirmed infected...      10149            dead....      631      = 6.21%

Which confirms a KNOWN death rate of 6.21% [based upon the calculation, of known known's.]





So basically, you're not willing to factor in reality and qualify your result to reflect it?

You're posting as if this is a certainty when it's not.  Even the most precise measurement has a level of uncertainty.  In science, they make every effort to reduce that uncertainty as much as possible but they still have to quantify it.  I'm sure you've seen the "±" symbol before?

You have not only made no such effort, but you've also deliberately chosen not to.

This is what happens when dullards attempt to sound smarter than they are and with such a touchy subject, it's dangerous.

You're another hype bitch like Bobby.
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Reply #79 - Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:50pm
 
Had Chronic Rhinitis (that's why I'm no good as a quack can't sniffle and blow nose in surgery) for ages - no bug worth its salt would come near me due to the installed immunities.  Like cow pox against small pox....

Grappler University School of Medicine:-  Warm salty water and flush nasal passages and rinse throat thoroughly.. repeat 3-4 times daily... flushes them bugs and reduces their numbers so your body's immune system can keep up or catch up.

Topical treatment - anti-biotics will only help with secondary bacterial infections that are the result of tissue breaking down... warm salty water will even prevent that if carefully used, and will aid in the healing process for any broken-down tissue.

Trust me - I know this.....
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Reply #80 - Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:59pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

[.....yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda....]

.....You're another hype bitch like Bobby.




bobby,

He's calling YOU a hype bitch !



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Reply #81 - Mar 11th, 2020 at 11:14pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:59pm:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

[.....yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda....]

.....You're another hype bitch like Bobby.




bobby,

He's calling YOU a hype bitch !





OOOH - bitch fight - take it to Oxford Street, you brutes...   Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #82 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 3:59am
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:59pm:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

[.....yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda....]

.....You're another hype bitch like Bobby.




bobby,

He's calling YOU a hype bitch !




Mr Sad is abusing other members.
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Reply #83 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 5:59am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 6:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 6:11pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 2:34pm:
The estimate is 45 million people dead as a minimum.


According to whom?





Arithmetic:



The estimate is 45 million people dead as a minimum.



According to whom?
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Reply #84 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 6:21am
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
Sophia wrote on Mar 5th, 2020 at 9:52pm:
My elderly mother always had flu shots, then she would have a cold and sniffle for a couple months after.
My daughter in law and I discussed it. She point blank asked me if I get the flu shot.
I said I never want any crap injected into my blood, expecting her to oppose it, yet she felt exactly the same, says her elder sister gets the flu shot then is always sick after.

Years ago, I would get the flu and would be ill for a good week or two.
I changed my diet, less dairy, less meat, less bread, less processed foods, no sugary drinks, less sugar, more vitamins and minerals, and fresh foods. More water with a dash of lemon.
Now if I get a flu, it lasts from beginning to peak to end about 4 days and not bed ridden, albeit I do feel lethargic, so I rest more.

I must have done something to help my immune system cope better and have milder effect.
Particularly as one ages, they say we should get the flu shot, but haven’t to date.
Should I worry?

Many years ago, before the advent of the internet, I read how 7 day Adventist’s would live approx 20 years longer than the average person, due to their meat free diet and other dietary reasons.
It’s actually very interesting.

Seventh-Day Adventists live longer and have 30% lower cancer risks compared to other Americans thanks to the religion's strict diet and lifestyle practices, study finds. Seventh-Day Adventists have a lower cancer risk and a longer life expectancy than the general US population, a new study suggests.Nov 27, 2019



Seven Day Adventists also allow themselves & their children to die from preventable & curable diseases according to their personal belief of what Adventism means to them. 

Similar to Jehovahs Witnesses.


Interesting LOLS.
I do agree with the Stats.
But having a far less 'STRESSLESS' lifestyle goes a lot further.
Take the Buddhist Monks. Isolated up in the mountains 'away from the stresses' of the world - sure, they will feel the peace and calm.
But down in the real world, they've been forced to show their hand with a 'fist' at times.

There was another 'people' who ate a particular food in their diet as a majority staple and they too lived up in the mountains to a ripe average age of 120 years.
But over history, their blood was mixed with some Greeks (who apparently have the best diet in the world according to experts) and their pale skin, raven hair and icy blue eyes of lifespans reaching 30-40 years old by average. Then McDonalds and Coke came and all the 'stresses' of the world and they only live to their 80's now - like most.

Stress is the major 'ager', more than diets (especially when a QLD Doc/Researcher - recently proved that a blood test provides the most accurate 'diet' needed for the 'individual' because 'generic' diets can create 'problems' beyond the dieting. Makes sense, especially for people who have the Neanderthal or Polynesian gene, etc).

Cubans lived longer than Americans under Castro (unless they were USA supporters) - by a good 20 years thanks to a far 'healthier' Health system and Cuban 'lifestyle'.
That's right LOLS - Communists lived/live longer  Wink Cheesy
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Reply #85 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 2:17pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 10th, 2020 at 6:53pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 4th, 2020 at 9:26am:
I think the death rate from the Corona virus in China was about 4 to 5 percent of those infected. With all the experts reassuring us, I have not seen any prediction of what the death rate will be here. Three things that might work in our favour:

1) A more organised and informed response will slow the spread, perhaps to the extent that less lethal variants will spread first and give us immunity.

2) Better medical care will keep people alive.

3) Better hygiene and less cramped living conditions will also slow the spread.

I think we are being saved at the moment by warmer weather, but we may get hit hard when winter comes. I get the impression the US is fairing much better than Europe, which may reflect some of the factors I listed above. The more anti-social a society, the better it is protected from this sort of thing.


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1) A more organised and informed response will slow the spread, perhaps to the extent that less lethal variants will spread first and give us immunity.


3 months into the process and we have no response at all.

The testing you could count on your fingers and toes.

We have the virus in the community with no attempt to identify or quantify it.

We are setting ourselves up to be one of the worst affected, simply all the things which may minimise the impact we are not doing.

In all likelihood we will not know there is a problem till way too late.

We are not better in any of these things than Italy - have a look at their numbers.


Quarantining people and washing your hands is a response.
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Reply #86 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 2:25pm
 
Pommy doctor said less than 1% of those infected will perish


I believe him


and think much of what's being thrust on us by the whore media is theatre


also believe they're blaming corona for deaths caused by other things


In months to come, once corona's been replaced by other news, there will be non-prominent news items revealing that most of the deaths attributed to corona were in fact caused by other factors

we've seen it all before

we're jaded

which is why there's been a massive con perpetrated world wide this time



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Reply #87 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 2:37pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 2:25pm:
Pommy doctor said less than 1% of those infected will perish


I believe him


and think much of what's being thrust on us by the whore media is theatre


also believe they're blaming corona for deaths caused by other things


In months to come, once corona's been replaced by other news, there will be non-prominent news items revealing that most of the deaths attributed to corona were in fact caused by other factors

we've seen it all before

we're jaded

which is why there's been a massive con perpetrated world wide this time



wolf

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Keep calm, carry on


You say that about anything you don't agree with. If that's your best argument then you're an idiot !
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Reply #88 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 2:38pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 11th, 2020 at 10:50pm:
... warm salty water will even prevent that if carefully used, and will aid in the healing process for any broken-down tissue.

.....

So we hopped in the thermal pools in South Island Ner Zerland. Both immunised now with Sulphur, Potassium, Urine and Sodium Chloride.
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Reply #89 - Mar 12th, 2020 at 2:48pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 2:37pm:
PZ547 wrote on Mar 12th, 2020 at 2:25pm:
Pommy doctor said less than 1% of those infected will perish


I believe him


and think much of what's being thrust on us by the whore media is theatre


also believe they're blaming corona for deaths caused by other things


In months to come, once corona's been replaced by other news, there will be non-prominent news items revealing that most of the deaths attributed to corona were in fact caused by other factors

we've seen it all before

we're jaded

which is why there's been a massive con perpetrated world wide this time



wolf

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Keep calm, carry on


You say that about anything you don't agree with. If that's your best argument then you're an idiot !


It's actually not that crazy to believe that some of the deaths might have been caused by normal pneumonia.

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