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Reply #105 - Mar 17th, 2020 at 7:10am
 
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Just Italy, since 2020-Mar-10 to 2020-Mar-14
[the final figure after each line is the total worldwide deaths]


2020-Mar-10  Tue,  3:17 pm                  Italy            confirmed infected...      9172            dead....      463      = 5.04%
4026


2020-Mar-11  Wed,  8:46 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      10149            dead....      631      = 6.21%
4262


2020-Mar-12  Thu,  7:11 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      12462            dead....      827      = 6.63%
4615


2020-Mar-13  Fri,  8:51 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      12462            dead....      827      = 6.63%
4720


2020-Mar-14  Sat,  4:34 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      15113            dead....      1016      = 6.72%
5088


addendum....

2020-Mar-14  Sat,  5:56 pm                  Italy            confirmed infected...      17660            dead....      1266      = 7.16%
5429


addendum....

2020-Mar-15  Sun,  9:00 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      21157            dead....      1441      = 6.81%
5819

2020-Mar-16  Mon,  8:34 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      24747            dead....      1809      = 7.30%
6440





addendum....

2020-Mar-17  Tue,  5:02 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      27980            dead....      2158      = 7.71%
7114

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Reply #106 - Mar 17th, 2020 at 7:15am
 



as per 2020-Mar-17, on site
Mortality Rate, as discussed by the National Health Commission (NHC) of China on Feb. 4

Mortality rate in Wuhan was                              4.9%.
Mortality rate in the Hubei Province was      3.1%.
Mortality rate nationwide was                        2.1%.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/




as per 2020-Mar-17, on site
Countries where COVID-19 has spread

Country      Cases      Deaths      Region            Death rate
China      80,880      3,213      Asia                  3.97
Italy      27,980      2,158      Europe            7.71
Iran            14,991      853            Asia                  5.69
Spain      9,428      335            Europe            3.55
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread...


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Re: death rate
Reply #107 - Mar 17th, 2020 at 7:40am
 
KangAnon wrote on Mar 16th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
What are you trying to gain from focusing on these numbers?


Ok, so you don't want to answer that question, do you at least understand the inherent inaccuracies of these numbers, namely the death rate?
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Re: death rate
Reply #108 - Mar 17th, 2020 at 8:10am
 
KangAnon wrote on Mar 17th, 2020 at 7:40am:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 16th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
What are you trying to gain from focusing on these numbers?


Ok, so you don't want to answer that question, do you at least understand the inherent inaccuracies of these numbers, namely the death rate?




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"the inherent inaccuracies of these numbers"    ???


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sadkanga,

You need to contact Johns Hopkins University CSSE,
and tell them that the information which they are publishing on the internet,
is being reported on a public internet forum in Australia.

And that      you      are finding those reportings about the spread and lethality of the COVID-19 virus, very, very alarming!!

And that      you      want Johns Hopkins University CSSE, to stop and desist,
from providing this information about the COVID-19 virus, on the internet!!!



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Re: death rate
Reply #109 - Mar 17th, 2020 at 8:13am
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 17th, 2020 at 8:10am:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 17th, 2020 at 7:40am:
KangAnon wrote on Mar 16th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
What are you trying to gain from focusing on these numbers?


Ok, so you don't want to answer that question, do you at least understand the inherent inaccuracies of these numbers, namely the death rate?




.


"the inherent inaccuracies of these numbers"    ???


Again.....


Quote:

sadkanga,

You need to contact Johns Hopkins University CSSE,
and tell them that the information which they are publishing on the internet,
is being reported on a public internet forum in Australia.

And that      you      are finding those reportings about the spread and lethality of the COVID-19 virus, very, very alarming!!

And that      you      want Johns Hopkins University CSSE, to stop and desist,
from providing this information about the COVID-19 virus, on the internet!!!



[There. That will fix it.]









I have no reason to question their statistics, nor their calculation of the death rate.

It's just they are only focusing on confirmed cases, which they must do, meaning it is not representative of the total infected, and that's fine when talking about confirmed cases.

When you use that to calculate the death rate however, it's factors higher than reality.

So focusing on it now, so early in the pandemic when the experts are warning of its inaccuracy is just spreading unnecessary fear.

As I asked you,

KangAnon wrote on Mar 16th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
What are you trying to gain from focusing on these numbers?


Well?

The WHO’s original declaration of 3.4 percent death rate is quite implausible, if not wildly inaccurate.

The figure does not include mild cases that do not require medical attention and is skewed by Wuhan, where the death rate is several times higher than elsewhere in China. It is also quite possible that there are many undetected cases that would push the mortality rate lower. Still, it was the first time that the organization had offered a global mortality rate for the disease.

Most people will have mild disease and get better without needing any special care.  Because most cases are mild, these cases are excluded by definition from “reported cases,” the WHO’s alleged 3.4% mortality rate is nothing more than sensationalist nonsense.

Johns Hopkins University are using the same methodology for their calculations, it's just "(Deaths / Confirmed Infected) x 100".

So what you're posting is the death rate of the confirmed infected which for the majority are those who've needed medical intervention or are in positions of power or celebrity because testing kits are limited.

How could that possibly be representative of an entire population?

It can't!

So again, I ask you:

KangAnon wrote on Mar 16th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
What are you trying to gain from focusing on these numbers?
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Re: death rate
Reply #110 - Mar 18th, 2020 at 3:22pm
 
Quote:
Just Italy, since 2020-Mar-10 to 2020-Mar-14
[the final figure after each line is the total worldwide deaths]


2020-Mar-10  Tue,  3:17 pm                  Italy            confirmed infected...      9172            dead....      463      = 5.04%
4026


2020-Mar-11  Wed,  8:46 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      10149            dead....      631      = 6.21%
4262


2020-Mar-12  Thu,  7:11 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      12462            dead....      827      = 6.63%
4615


2020-Mar-13  Fri,  8:51 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      12462            dead....      827      = 6.63%
4720


2020-Mar-14  Sat,  4:34 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      15113            dead....      1016      = 6.72%
5088


2020-Mar-14  Sat,  5:56 pm                  Italy            confirmed infected...      17660            dead....      1266      = 7.16%
5429


2020-Mar-15  Sun,  9:00 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      21157            dead....      1441      = 6.81%
5819


2020-Mar-16  Mon,  8:34 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      24747            dead....      1809      = 7.30%
6440


2020-Mar-17  Tue,  5:02 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      27980            dead....      2158      = 7.71%
7114




addendum....

2020-Mar-18  Wed,  1:17 pm                  Italy            confirmed infected...      31506            dead....      2503      = 7.94%
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Re: death rate
Reply #111 - Mar 18th, 2020 at 3:53pm
 
Yadda, grow a brain

The "confirmed infected" are only those who have actually been able to be tested, which is a lot less than have actually caught the disease.

As you've been told numerous times your mortality rate is wrong
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Reply #112 - Mar 18th, 2020 at 5:41pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 18th, 2020 at 3:53pm:
Yadda, grow a brain

The "confirmed infected" are only those who have actually been able to be tested, which is a lot less than have actually caught the disease.

As you've been told numerous times your mortality rate is wrong



Poor, poor Barnacle, and some others.

Showing how 'TRIGGERED' [i.e. emotionally agitated] they can become,    ...when they are forced to confront what they fear,    ...reality and what is true.


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Reply #113 - Mar 18th, 2020 at 6:07pm
 



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Quote:

March 17, 2020
John Hinderaker

Coronavirus Mortality Varies By Country



Some observations:

1) The Chinese curve, assuming it is anywhere near accurate, suggests that hysteria over the virus is vastly overblown. New cases and deaths there have dropped off to almost nothing. (According to the World Health Organization, only 29 new cases and 14 deaths in the last 24 hours.)

2) We should figure out what the Koreans have done, and imitate it.

3) Iran may be on the worst trajectory. Its numbers are likely to be fictitious.

4) Both Italy and Spain have relatively elderly populations, which I assume accounts for the relatively rapid spread of coronavirus in those countries.

5) Compared with most countries, the U.S. is off to a good start.



.....You can’t depict a complex situation in a single chart, but my takeaway from all of the above is that the U.S. is off to a good start in combatting the virus.

At this point, I am a lot more worried about the economy than about COVID-19.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-varies-by-c...


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Reply #114 - Mar 18th, 2020 at 9:19pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 18th, 2020 at 5:41pm:
Poor, poor Barnacle, and some others.

Showing how 'TRIGGERED' [i.e. emotionally agitated] they can become,    ...when they are forced to confront what they fear,    ...reality and what is true.




No I get triggered when idiots don't understand math and then use their ignorance to misrepresent something
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Reply #115 - Mar 18th, 2020 at 10:20pm
 
They used the quarantined Diamond Princess as a test bed.

The results?

87% did not get COVID- 19.

Of the 1016 between 70-79 - 6 died. 0.59%

Of the 216 between 80-89 -1 died. 0.46%

"Adjusting for delay from confirmation-to-death, we estimated case and infection fatality ratios
(CFR, IFR) for COVID-19 on the Diamond Princess ship as 2.3% (0.75%–5.3%) and 1.2%
(0.38–2.7%)."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.05.20031773v2.full.pdf

There were no other deaths.

There were a total of 3711 on board, so a small population size but they were all in close proximity.
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Reply #116 - Mar 18th, 2020 at 10:41pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 18th, 2020 at 9:19pm:
Yadda wrote on Mar 18th, 2020 at 5:41pm:
Poor, poor Barnacle, and some others.

Showing how 'TRIGGERED' [i.e. emotionally agitated] they can become,    ...when they are forced to confront what they fear,    ...reality and what is true.




No I get triggered when idiots don't understand math and then use their ignorance to misrepresent something




Of course i understand math.

1 + 5 = 6

1 x 6 = 6

6 / 2 = 3

See, Yadda understands math.



I even know how to calculate percentages !!!!!



Yadda proves conclusively that Barnacle doesn't understand how to communicate, accurately, in words, anything useful about the utility of math.


Just call me, Sheldon Yadda.



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Reply #117 - Mar 18th, 2020 at 11:53pm
 
Bring it on - I take conflicts with The Reaper personally!
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Reply #118 - Mar 19th, 2020 at 7:40am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 4th, 2020 at 9:46am:
A bloke on TV guessed 90,000 would die in Australia if the virus got out of control

Hopefully we'll get a break from immigration because of this virus

Darkies, muslims and Asians are no longer welcome here, they've done their dash - that terrible experiment failed miserably


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Reply #119 - Mar 19th, 2020 at 10:09am
 
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Just Italy, since 2020-Mar-10 to 2020-Mar-14
[the final figure after each line is the total worldwide deaths]


2020-Mar-10  Tue,  3:17 pm                  Italy            confirmed infected...      9172            dead....      463      = 5.04%
4026


2020-Mar-11  Wed,  8:46 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      10149            dead....      631      = 6.21%
4262


2020-Mar-12  Thu,  7:11 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      12462            dead....      827      = 6.63%
4615


2020-Mar-13  Fri,  8:51 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      12462            dead....      827      = 6.63%
4720


2020-Mar-14  Sat,  4:34 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      15113            dead....      1016      = 6.72%
5088


2020-Mar-14  Sat,  5:56 pm                  Italy            confirmed infected...      17660            dead....      1266      = 7.16%
5429


2020-Mar-15  Sun,  9:00 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      21157            dead....      1441      = 6.81%
5819


2020-Mar-16  Mon,  8:34 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      24747            dead....      1809      = 7.30%
6440


2020-Mar-17  Tue,  5:02 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      27980            dead....      2158      = 7.71%
7114


2020-Mar-18  Wed,  1:17 pm                  Italy            confirmed infected...      31506            dead....      2503      = 7.94%
7948




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2020-Mar-19  Thu,  8:06 am                  Italy            confirmed infected...      35713            dead....      2978      = 8.33%
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