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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16142 Central Coast Gender:	Re: death rate Reply #15 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:42pm Everyone who catches it should visit parliament house. Just to be sure that they touch everything and cough over everyone.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75238 Gender:	Re: death rate Reply #16 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:44pm Valkie wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:42pm: Everyone who catches it should visit parliament house. Just to be sure that they touch everything and cough over everyone. i seriously hope someone is keeping an eye on you. You should be locked up
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Reply #17 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:49pm

almost certain it will run wild thru OZ at some stage.
we may well have a vaccine by then.

the difficult thing will be

who gets the hospital bed?

the 60 yo with a really bad case who is otherwise healthy
the 60 yo with a really bad case who is an obese smoker
the 80 yo dementia patient from the nursing home.

and if they run out of beds, those are tough calls.

even tougher if people start needing the limited ICU beds.

what if a 20 yo and an 80 are both needing icu and the 80 is a touch sicker.
thats tough.

and do you kick the 80 yo out when 60 yo arrive in cas who are at the same level of sickness

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139711 Gender:	Re: death rate Reply #18 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 4:19pm John Smith wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:44pm: Valkie wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:42pm: Everyone who catches it should visit parliament house. Just to be sure that they touch everything and cough over everyone. i seriously hope someone is keeping an eye on you. You should be locked up He might be already.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: death rate Reply #19 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 4:28pm Valkie wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:42pm: Everyone who catches it should visit parliament house. Just to be sure that they touch everything and cough over everyone. you have a very twisted outlook on life in general.. you do realise everyone who works in Parliament house has a family.. and NO they are not all pollies..
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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16142 Central Coast Gender:	Re: death rate Reply #20 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 5:34pm John Smith wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:44pm: Valkie wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:42pm: Everyone who catches it should visit parliament house. Just to be sure that they touch everything and cough over everyone. i seriously hope someone is keeping an eye on you. You should be locked up CARE FACTOR WHAT YOU THINK..........ZERO
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Reply #21 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 5:40pm

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 4:28pm:

Valkie wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:42pm:

Everyone who catches it should visit parliament house.

Just to be sure that they touch everything and cough over everyone.

you have a very twisted outlook on life in general..

you do realise everyone who works in Parliament house has a family.. and NO they are not all pollies.. Angry

Again, are factor .........zero

If you think even 1 of the people in parliament have any thoughts about you or your well being.

You are a bigger fool than you appear.

They happily cut funding to hospitals and patient care
They willingly cut the pension or keep it at poverty levels.
They deliberately impose laws and policy, knowing it will drive poor souls to suicide.
They line their own pockets and starve the homeless.

If they all dropped dead tomorrow
I would rejoice the passing of worthless parasites.

As for my outlook on life
I love my family, and would give anything to help them.
I cherish my friends and friendship
I have no ill will for those who do me no harm

But I despise those who harm me or my family through action or inaction.
This puts our worthless dead beat politicians right up there.

No loss.....Care factor......zero

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Reply #22 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 6:18pm

Valkie wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 5:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:44pm:

Valkie wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 3:42pm:

Everyone who catches it should visit parliament house.

Just to be sure that they touch everything and cough over everyone.

i seriously hope someone is keeping an eye on you. You should be locked up

CARE FACTOR WHAT YOU THINK..........ZERO

of course you don't care ... it goes with your sociopathic personality

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85417 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: death rate Reply #23 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 9:46pm 3) Better hygiene and less cramped living conditions will also slow the spread.
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Reply #24 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 9:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 10:52am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 10:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 10:37am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 10:27am:

You can't rely on the figures out of china. Most likely they will be downplaying the real case fatality rate. Sth Korea is a much more reliable metric !

Why would you believe any country?

Living in denial must make life easy for you groggary Cheesy

LOL

The higher the number they report, the bigger impact it will have on their tourism industry.

More than 15 million foreigners visit South Korea every year.

Do you think it's at all possible that they might fudge the figures in order to protect their multi billion dollar tourism industry?

As I asked before, but you didn't answer, why would you believe any country?

So are you saying the real figures are a lot worse than stated ??

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Reply #25 - Mar 4^th, 2020 at 11:04pm

Gordon wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 9:55am:

Poor lung health of Chinese from pollution and high rates of smoking would increase their death rates. Less women are dying in china as their rate of smoking is much lower.

They have lower rates of obesity and type 2 diabetes than us so that may even it out a bit.

Thats pretty much what Im thinking, lung health is going to be a decisive factor. If anyone is a smoker they would be wise to stop now., We have about 3 months before it wacks us badly. What they did say is that Corona is less contagious than the flu but deadlier. Vaccine is coming though, about 3 months they reckon. Billions of dollars for the pharmceutical companies if they can market it so they are putting all their resources into it. They will be able to charge whatever they want.

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Reply #26 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 12:31am

rhino wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 11:04pm:

Gordon wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 9:55am:

Poor lung health of Chinese from pollution and high rates of smoking would increase their death rates. Less women are dying in china as their rate of smoking is much lower.

They have lower rates of obesity and type 2 diabetes than us so that may even it out a bit.

Thats pretty much what Im thinking, lung health is going to be a decisive factor. If anyone is a smoker they would be wise to stop now., We have about 3 months before it wacks us badly. What they did say is that Corona is less contagious than the flu but deadlier. Vaccine is coming though, about 3 months they reckon. Billions of dollars for the pharmceutical companies if they can market it so they are putting all their resources into it. They will be able to charge whatever they want.

Seeing as the thing that kills people is the cytokine storm, I'd say it's much more likely it's one's immune system that is the problem rather than just lung health. You may have diminished lung capacity and have no/low effects from the virus like most people. If you have diminished lung capacity and your immune system goes haywire it may compound the problem but it's the effects of the immune response that kills, whether you smoke or not.

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Reply #27 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 6:38am

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 9:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 10:52am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 10:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 10:37am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 4^th, 2020 at 10:27am:

You can't rely on the figures out of china. Most likely they will be downplaying the real case fatality rate. Sth Korea is a much more reliable metric !

Why would you believe any country?

Living in denial must make life easy for you groggary Cheesy

LOL

The higher the number they report, the bigger impact it will have on their tourism industry.

More than 15 million foreigners visit South Korea every year.

Do you think it's at all possible that they might fudge the figures in order to protect their multi billion dollar tourism industry?

As I asked before, but you didn't answer, why would you believe any country?

So are you saying the real figures are a lot worse than stated ??

How can we possibly know what the real numbers are?

I'm saying that it's in their best interests to fudge the numbers.

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Reply #28 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 5:08pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 5^th, 2020 at 12:31am:

Seeing as the thing that kills people is the cytokine storm, I'd say it's much more likely it's one's immune system that is the problem rather than just lung health. You may have diminished lung capacity and have no/low effects from the virus like most people. If you have diminished lung capacity and your immune system goes haywire it may compound the problem but it's the effects of the immune response that kills, whether you smoke or not.

Setanta,

I hope that it is a strong immune system which will prove to be the protective factor.

COVID-19, reportedly, is another form of 'influenza'.

When they come around, i never get colds or the flu [influenza].

Never.

Want to give your immune system a very quick boost ?

BEGIN THIS, RIGHT NOW.....

Try fasting until noon each day [i try to only drink black tea or water until noon - i don't drink coffee].
.....and don't eat anything solid after about 6.00pm.

Try to avoid eating processed foods - nothing out of a can, nothing out of a packet.

Try to eat mainly foods with lots of water in them [e.g. veggies and fruit].

Works for me.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: death rate Reply #29 - Mar 5^th, 2020 at 5:54pm Quote: A leading Harvard doctor has claimed that coronavirus isn’t anywhere near as fatal as people fear, saying the real death rate is less than 1 percent - far lower than the World Health Organization’s alarming figures of 3.4 percent. LINK
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