greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 12:38pm:



Daniel Koehler bandies about the term 'extreme right wing' without even vaguely defining it. He classifies political parties against high level third world immigration, for example, as exrremist right wing political parties. By that definition the Labour Party, until and including  Gough "not having hundreds of f------ Vietnamese Balts coming into this country" Whitlam was an extreme right winger.
He also classifies drunken obnoxious yobs acting impulsively as extreme right wing terrorists.

It is the mirror image and other side of the explaining away Islamic terrorism, even when the guys are shouting 'Allahu Akhbar", as  not really Islamic, only an atypical mental health episode while talking up every yobbo as an extreme right winger.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 12:38pm:



His definitions are as muddled and loose as Kohler's.



Before conceptualizing far-right ideology, it is important to note that the following
paragraphs, while using concepts which may be perceived as pejorative, are not
intended to provide moral judgment of the groups which comprise the far right, but to
point out their shared ideas and norms by using concepts which are accepted and well
defined within the academic literature. These norms and ideas will be further
exemplified and brought to life in later parts of this study, which will provide high-
resolution analysis of the ideology of the violent American far right.
If there is one ideological doctrine about which there is almost full consensus regarding
its importance for understanding the far-right worldview, it is that of nationalism.
.....
To conclude, historically the far-right literature has provided numerous definitions and
conceptual and analytical frameworks for understanding the ideological paradigm of
these groups. As indicated by Mudde, by the mid-1990s no less than 28 different
definitions were introduced, including close to 60 different elements.
However, it seems that in the last few years there has been growing consensus regarding the
importance and the central role of the concepts discussed above in far-right ideology,
and for the need to establish core definitional elements such as these. The above
elements will be used in this study to sketch the boundaries of the American far-right.
Ideological components which have been excluded from the above discussion are those
which overlap with more specialized ideological concepts e.g., anti-parliamentarianism,
or which are less ideological per se and refer more to the practice of mobilization, such
as populism, or to the internal structure and organizational culture of far-right groups,
e.g., authoritarianism.
https://www.ctc.usma.edu/challengers-from-the-sidelines-understanding-americas-v...

So if you are proAustralia you are a nationalist and thereby an extreme right winger.

That's 'academic literarure' for ya, boys and girls. Sociology and political 'science', innit.

Greg do your stats prove that Muslim terrorists will kill far more people at a single address in about ten seconds than all types of killings by "right wing extremists" over a 22 year period throughout the entire country?

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 2:18pm:


They're not Muslims - on that we can all agree   

What about your buddy in NZ - was he right-wing?

I'm curious.

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 2:33pm:


Ah.

He's still your buddy though, and not a Muslim - yeah?   

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 5:27pm:


Are you happy with the number of people your friend killed, or do you think he failed to reach your target?

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 5:53pm:


Why do you support terrorists, old boy?

Do we need to report you to the authorities?

freediver wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 12:51pm:


Fact is RW extremists caused incalculable damage to democracy itself during the Trump inspired Capitol riots.

Quote:


Less than the illegal US invasion of Iraq.