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Reply #1890 - Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:45pm

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

He's your bastard, turd, not mine. Are you saying I am a turd/Bbbwian/Greta/Adam Bandt supporter?

So because Tarrant claims he hates 'conservatives' ("depending on definition"), you claim he is the Left's bastard!

The Left does not murder innocent Muslims at prayer.

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You ARE Tarrant. Identical ideology.

Determining the 'ideology' of a sociopathic mass-murderer is fraught.

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Reply #1892 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:24am

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 8^th, 2022 at 2:45pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 5^th, 2022 at 7:22pm:

He's your bastard, turd, not mine. Are you saying I am a turd/Bbbwian/Greta/Adam Bandt supporter?

So because Tarrant claims he hates 'conservatives' ("depending on definition"), you claim he is the Left's bastard!

The Left does not murder innocent Muslims at prayer.

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You ARE Tarrant. Identical ideology.

Determining the 'ideology' of a sociopathic mass-murderer is fraught.

Focus:

"The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China,” he wrote. Tarrant said he could be both right wing and left wing, “depending on the definition.”

Tarrant called himself an “ecofascist” promoting “green nationalism,” anti-population growth (excepting Europeans), anti-urbanization and pro-sustainable economic practices. He is pro-union, pro-minimum wage and pro-workers rights (to keep out immigrant labor). And he explicitly rejects conservatism, capitalism, individualism and consumerism. “Conservatism is dead,” he wrote. “Thank God. Now let us bury it and move on to something of worth.”

“When I was young I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before coming to be an ecofascist.”

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Reply #1893 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 11:40am

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

Focus.
"The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China,” he wrote. Tarrant said he could be both right wing and left wing, “depending on the definition.”

Tarrant called himself an “ecofascist” promoting “green nationalism,” anti-population growth (excepting Europeans), anti-urbanization and pro-sustainable economic practices. He is pro-union, pro-minimum wage and pro-workers rights (to keep out immigrant labor). And he explicitly rejects conservatism, capitalism, individualism and consumerism. “Conservatism is dead,” he wrote. “Thank God. Now let us bury it and move on to something of worth.”

“When I was young I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before coming to be an ecofascist.”

How is "the nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the PRC" compatible with "and finally a libertarian before coming to be an ecofascist"?

The PRC is neither ecofascist, nor libertarian.

But over and above all this, he has not explained why he murdered 50 Muslim worshipers in a NZ mosque. He doesn't mention Islam in his political stance at all.

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Reply #1894 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 1:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2020 at 1:56pm:

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Far-right Terrorism

Incidents of far-right terrorism have been increasing in the West, particularly in Western Europe, North America, and Oceania. The total number of incidents have increased by 320 per cent over the past five years.

In 2018, total deaths attributed to far-right groups increased by 52 per cent to 26 deaths. To the end of September in 2019, 77 deaths have been attributed to far-right groups.

Deaths have been increasing year on year for the past three years, from 11 deaths in 2017, 26 deaths in 2018, to 77 deaths by the end of September 2019.

However, far-right terrorism remains a small fraction of total terrorism worldwide. Even in the West, historically nationalist or separatist, Islamist, and far-left terrorism has been much more common.

The three largest politically motivated terrorist attacks in the West in the last 50 years have been perpetuated by far-right extremists.

Far-right terrorism in the last ten years has become increasingly associated with individuals with broad ideological allegiances rather than specific terrorist groups.jjIn the last decade, one in three mass shootings have been classified as a terrorist attack, compared to one in five over the last 40 years.

The US has had one of the largest deteriorations in Positive Peace, deteriorating by 6.7 per cent.

The fall in Positive Peace in the West in the last decade has increased the likelihood of a continued increase in politically motivated violence in the next decade. There were 270 politically motivated terrorist attacks between 2013 and 2018.

At least 84 people have been killed in politically motivated terrorist attacks in 2019 thus far.

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Reply #1895 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 1:12pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 8:24am:

Focus.
"The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China,” he wrote. Tarrant said he could be both right wing and left wing, “depending on the definition.”

Tarrant called himself an “ecofascist” promoting “green nationalism,” anti-population growth (excepting Europeans), anti-urbanization and pro-sustainable economic practices. He is pro-union, pro-minimum wage and pro-workers rights (to keep out immigrant labor). And he explicitly rejects conservatism, capitalism, individualism and consumerism. “Conservatism is dead,” he wrote. “Thank God. Now let us bury it and move on to something of worth.”

“When I was young I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before coming to be an ecofascist.”

How is "the nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the PRC" compatible with "and finally a libertarian before coming to be an ecofascist"?

The PRC is neither ecofascist, nor libertarian.

But over and above all this, he has not explained why he murdered 50 Muslim worshipers in a NZ mosque. He doesn't mention Islam in his political stance at all.

What does the CCP think of Muslims living in China?

Could you tell us because you have 1st hand lived experience to draw from.

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Reply #1896 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 1:12pm:

What does the CCP think of Muslims living in China?

The Chinese Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.

[Xinjiang in particular is now stable and prosperous, as will soon be experienced by Michelle Bachelet, head of the UN HRC, who is visiting Xinjiang later this year. Meanwhile Muslims live all throughout China.

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Could you tell us because you have 1st hand lived experience to draw from.

Anyone can read the Chinese Constitution.

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Reply #1898 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:03pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 1:12pm:

What does the CCP think of Muslims living in China?

The Chinese Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.

[Xinjiang in particular is now stable and prosperous, as will soon be experienced by Michelle Bachelet, head of the UN HRC, who is visiting Xinjiang later this year. Meanwhile Muslims live all throughout China.

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Could you tell us because you have 1st hand lived experience to draw from.

Anyone can read the Chinese Constitution.

Paid CCP Cyber Troll. Confirmed.

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Reply #1899 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:04pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Anyone can read the Chinese Constitution.

And then reread it as it changes to align with the Xi faction in the CCP.

Are you a Chinese national? Are you posting from China?

It definitely is lol.

I can't wait for the paid troll to log back in again actually.

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Reply #1900 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:57pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 1:12pm:

What does the CCP think of Muslims living in China?

The Chinese Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.

[Xinjiang in particular is now stable and prosperous, as will soon be experienced by Michelle Bachelet, head of the UN HRC, who is visiting Xinjiang later this year. Meanwhile Muslims live all throughout China.

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Could you tell us because you have 1st hand lived experience to draw from.

Anyone can read the Chinese Constitution.

Paid CCP Cyber Troll. Confirmed.

A bit harsh there, Lisa. He is basically correct, as long as Chinese citizens accept the Party as the rulers of China. Those who don't? Bad luck when the secret police come a-calling in the night... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #1901 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 10:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

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What does the CCP think of Muslims living in China?

The Chinese Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.

[Xinjiang in particular is now stable and prosperous, as will soon be experienced by Michelle Bachelet, head of the UN HRC, who is visiting Xinjiang later this year. Meanwhile Muslims live all throughout China.

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Could you tell us because you have 1st hand lived experience to draw from.

A bit harsh there, Lisa. He is basically correct, as long as Chinese citizens accept the Party as the rulers of China. Those who don't? Bad luck when the secret police come a-calling in the night... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Not much different to the choice between tweedle-dee and tweeddle-dum in Oz, you accept the party in power, except the CCP has consistent long term goals (set out in 5 year plans) for everyone to see, unlike the hyper-partisan gridlocked politics in the democracies in which private financiers are laughing all the way to the bank while ordinary workers are refused decent pay rises.

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Reply #1902 - Feb 10^th, 2022 at 10:24pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:19pm:

And then reread it as it changes to align with the Xi faction in the CCP.

?? Any way, freedom of religion is guaranteed in China.

Speaking of religion: talk about getting your knickers in a knot in Oz over "freedom of religion" legislation....you "freedom-loving" sovereign individual ideologues sure do manage to get yourselves tied up in knots......

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Reply #1903 - Feb 11^th, 2022 at 1:56am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 1:12pm:

What does the CCP think of Muslims living in China?

The Chinese Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.

[Xinjiang in particular is now stable and prosperous, as will soon be experienced by Michelle Bachelet, head of the UN HRC, who is visiting Xinjiang later this year. Meanwhile Muslims live all throughout China.

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Could you tell us because you have 1st hand lived experience to draw from.

Anyone can read the Chinese Constitution.

Paid CCP Cyber Troll. Confirmed.

A bit harsh there, Lisa. He is basically correct, as long as Chinese citizens accept the Party as the rulers of China. Those who don't? Bad luck when the secret police come a-calling in the night... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian .... give it a rest.

We know Greatdivide is a shared multi id.

We strung it along deliberately until it slipped.

Which brings me to this question : How many more ids do YOU share Brian?

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Reply #1904 - Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:02am

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 1:56am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:57pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 4:03pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 3:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 1:12pm:

What does the CCP think of Muslims living in China?

The Chinese Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.

[Xinjiang in particular is now stable and prosperous, as will soon be experienced by Michelle Bachelet, head of the UN HRC, who is visiting Xinjiang later this year. Meanwhile Muslims live all throughout China.

Quote:

Could you tell us because you have 1st hand lived experience to draw from.

Anyone can read the Chinese Constitution.

Paid CCP Cyber Troll. Confirmed.

A bit harsh there, Lisa. He is basically correct, as long as Chinese citizens accept the Party as the rulers of China. Those who don't? Bad luck when the secret police come a-calling in the night... Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian .... give it a rest.

We know Greatdivide is a shared multi id.

We strung it along deliberately until it slipped.

Which brings me to this question : How many more ids do YOU share Brian?

Interesting, explains a lot.

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