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The President should always a majority
Mar 15^th, 2020 at 9:02pm

In a presidential form of government, the worse thing is to have divided government where Congress is of one party and the President is of the other. This form of divided government is paralyzing and erodes the faith of government in the minds of the people.

The best way to ensure smooth and efficient government is to guarantee a majority to the President in Congress. The most effective way of achieving this is to allow the President to appoint one-third of the total number of seats in Congress. Given that enough people would support the President's party in congressional elections, the one-third appointees would effectively guarantee a legislative majority for the President.

This makes sense, given that the President was elected to implement an agenda. By having members appointed by the President, this would give more support to the President and for his/her policies.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21916 A cat with a view	Re: The President should always a majority Reply #1 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:29pm Auggie, You are mistaken [re OP]. And you are intellectually 'unhinged'. That is just my opinion.
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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #2 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:33pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:29pm:

Auggie,

You are mistaken [re OP].

And you are intellectually 'unhinged'.

That is just my opinion.

Not at all, Yadda. At least no more than you.

We accept the government and the House of Reps being of the same party in our system, so why should it be different in a presidential form of government with a bill of rights?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59372 Here Gender:	Re: The President should always a majority Reply #3 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:33pm You know you are in Trouble when Yadda posts in one font with no colour.
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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #4 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:33pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:29pm:

Auggie,

You are mistaken [re OP].

And you are intellectually 'unhinged'.

That is just my opinion.

Not at all, Yadda. At least no more than you.

We accept the government and the House of Reps being of the same party in our system, so why should it be different in a presidential form of government with a bill of rights?

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At least no more than you.

My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ?

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: The President should always a majority Reply #5 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:36pm Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:33pm: You know you are in Trouble when Yadda posts in one font with no colour. Can you explain why it's acceptable for Australia to have a system where the executive and the legislative are of the same party but not so for a president form of government?
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21916 A cat with a view	Re: The President should always a majority Reply #6 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:39pm Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm: Quote: At least no more than you. My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ? Nah, not at all Dnarever. Auggie is way more unhinged, than myself. [wink]
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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #7 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:42pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:

Quote:

At least no more than you.

My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ?

Nah, not at all Dnarever.

Auggie is way more unhinged, than myself. [wink]

I think proposing better ways to govern is less 'unhinged' than proposing that we lock up all Muslims and their children.

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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #8 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:46pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:

Quote:

At least no more than you.

My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ?

Nah, not at all Dnarever.

Auggie is way more unhinged, than myself. [wink]

I think proposing better ways to govern is less 'unhinged' than proposing that we lock up all Muslims and their children.

That is an opinion.

And it is yours Auggie.

Here is mine.....

QUARANTINE WORKS!!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34

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The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #9 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:53pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:

Quote:

At least no more than you.

My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ?

Nah, not at all Dnarever.

Auggie is way more unhinged, than myself. [wink]

I think proposing better ways to govern is less 'unhinged' than proposing that we lock up all Muslims and their children.

Auggie,

Instead of proposing 'improvements' to government, ....in places like the U.S.A. and Australia,
why haven't you proposed ways of improving the governing of places like Sudan, Somalia, Turkey, Pakistan, et al ?

Hmmmm ?

Too 'close to the bone' for you, your own bone ?

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #10 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:57pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:53pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:

Quote:

At least no more than you.

My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ?

Nah, not at all Dnarever.

Auggie is way more unhinged, than myself. [wink]

I think proposing better ways to govern is less 'unhinged' than proposing that we lock up all Muslims and their children.

Auggie,

Instead of proposing 'improvements' to government, ....in places like the U.S.A. and Australia,
why haven't you proposed ways of improving the governing of places like Sudan, Somalia, Turkey, Pakistan, et al ?

Hmmmm ?

Too 'close to the bone' for you, your own bone ?

Because drafting a new constitution in those countries isn't going to do anything to help them; whereas in America and Australia it will.

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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #11 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 8:26pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:57pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:53pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:

Quote:

At least no more than you.

My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ?

Nah, not at all Dnarever.

Auggie is way more unhinged, than myself. [wink]

I think proposing better ways to govern is less 'unhinged' than proposing that we lock up all Muslims and their children.

Auggie,

Instead of proposing 'improvements' to government, ....in places like the U.S.A. and Australia,
why haven't you proposed ways of improving the governing of places like Sudan, Somalia, Turkey, Pakistan, et al ?

Hmmmm ?

Too 'close to the bone' for you, your own bone ?

Because drafting a new constitution in those countries isn't going to do anything to help them; whereas in America and Australia it will.

Auggie,

But you could propose improvements, to governing, ....in places like Sudan, Somalia, Turkey, Pakistan.

And if your friends recognised what 'a good idea' your suggestions were,
well, perhaps they [persons within those nations] would be inspired, to try to enact your suggestions.

Why don't you lobby the peoples of those failed [or failing] states ?

Those are places, in particular, which would benefit out of all proportion, to the benefits of tweaking the political systems in places like the U.S.A. and Australia !

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #12 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 8:59pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:57pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:53pm:

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:

Quote:

At least no more than you.

My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ?

Nah, not at all Dnarever.

Auggie is way more unhinged, than myself. [wink]

I think proposing better ways to govern is less 'unhinged' than proposing that we lock up all Muslims and their children.

Auggie,

Instead of proposing 'improvements' to government, ....in places like the U.S.A. and Australia,
why haven't you proposed ways of improving the governing of places like Sudan, Somalia, Turkey, Pakistan, et al ?

Hmmmm ?

Too 'close to the bone' for you, your own bone ?

Because drafting a new constitution in those countries isn't going to do anything to help them; whereas in America and Australia it will.

Auggie,

But you could propose improvements, to governing, ....in places like Sudan, Somalia, Turkey, Pakistan.

And if your friends recognised what 'a good idea' your suggestions were,
well, perhaps they [persons within those nations] would be inspired, to try to enact your suggestions.

Why don't you lobby the peoples of those failed [or failing] states ?

Those are places, in particular, which would benefit out of all proportion, to the benefits of tweaking the political systems in places like the U.S.A. and Australia !

My proposed improvement in to annex those countries into a new Australian empire.

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Reply #13 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 10:12pm

Them's how the votes fall..... sorry 'bout that... if there is a lame duck it's for a good reason behind the voters and their thoughts...

You seem to love any form of absolutism..... as if there is a Divine Right of Elected Government... in a democracy such a thing is anathema... it may work in China and Russia etc, as far as it does work - it wouldn't work here.

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Reply #14 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 10:14pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:33pm:

You know you are in Trouble when Yadda posts in one font with no colour.

Can you explain why it's acceptable for Australia to have a system where the executive and the legislative are of the same party but not so for a president form of government?

You are discussing here one of the reasons the common people are pushing for change.... the current system is not doing its job for the people, but is working for the parties. It is not actually acceptable..... it just is.

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Reply #15 - Mar 17^th, 2020 at 10:18pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:

Quote:

At least no more than you.

My thought exactly - A draw. Stalemate or maybe staleXmate ?

Nah, not at all Dnarever.

Auggie is way more unhinged, than myself. [wink]

I think proposing better ways to govern is less 'unhinged' than proposing that we lock up all Muslims and their children.

I note, as a sidebar here , that the AusGuv is going to deport the entire family of one of the third party arranged accident scammers. He and all his family are on the boat.... on the backload .....

There is precedent here..... we'll only lock up the good Muslims until they can prove themselves good citizens... bread and water for a while should bring most of them around... get their minds right... no more failure to communicate...

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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #16 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 10:09am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 10:18pm:

I note, as a sidebar here , that the AusGuv is going to deport the entire family of one of the third party arranged accident scammers.

He and all his family are on the boat.... on the backload .....

grapp,

I had not heard that.

But that outcome, if it eventuates, would be gratifying to many Australians i believe.

Yay. [a subdued, 'Yay' for now]

gratify = = give pleasure or satisfaction.

Muzzies too, are a pestilence upon [a marginally!] sane mankind.

QUARANTINE WORKS!!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34

and....

The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: The President should always a majority
Reply #18 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 5:30pm

Auggie wrote on Mar 17^th, 2020 at 7:36pm:

Can you explain why it's acceptable for Australia to have a system where the executive and the legislative are of the same party but not so for a president form of government?

No. Sorry . Your q. is unacceptable. Wash hands for 20 secs , face Mecca and write another q.

No just wash hands.

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