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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26494 Australia	Public vs Private Schools Mar 18^th, 2020 at 3:14pm So rich ppl with private schools keep their kids out but poorer public school ppl have to spread it around? Spot
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Reply #1 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:40pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 3:14pm:

So rich ppl with private schools keep their kids out but poorer public school ppl have to spread it around?

Spot

poorer people are more resistant to viruses, they bodies deal with them all the time. You ever see poor kids walking around barefoot in the middle of winter, filthy, but they never seem to get sick?

Rick pampered prissies will be the first to croak Cheesy

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Reply #2 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:45pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:40pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 3:14pm:

So rich ppl with private schools keep their kids out but poorer public school ppl have to spread it around?

Spot

poorer people are more resistant to viruses, they bodies deal with them all the time. You ever see poor kids walking around barefoot in the middle of winter, filthy, but they never seem to get sick?

Rick pampered prissies will be the first to croak Cheesy

Didn't help the poor in squalor during the plagues. Disease loves mess.

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Reply #3 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:48pm

Both right.

Poor are more 'robust' to diseases, etc.
But their living conditions seem to make such things thrive.
Rich people have cleaner conditions, but they are also more 'fragile'.

Like the saying "Steal from the Evil rich and give to the good poor, but protect the Good rich from the evil poor"

So the Poor of Sydney and the Rich of Melbourne should die from the Corona virus if all goes well. Cheesy

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Reply #4 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:49pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:40pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 3:14pm:

So rich ppl with private schools keep their kids out but poorer public school ppl have to spread it around?

Spot

poorer people are more resistant to viruses, they bodies deal with them all the time. You ever see poor kids walking around barefoot in the middle of winter, filthy, but they never seem to get sick?

Rick pampered prissies will be the first to croak Cheesy

Didn't help the poor in squalor during the plagues. Disease loves mess.

how much of that was because of their lack of resources ONCE they got sick?

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20470 Gordon Gender:	Re: Public vs Private Schools Reply #5 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:58pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 3:14pm: So rich ppl with private schools keep their kids out but poorer public school ppl have to spread it around? Spot Some have closed, most have not. But to be accurate, they can make an independent decision to close because they're independent schools
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Reply #6 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 7:15pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:40pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 3:14pm:

So rich ppl with private schools keep their kids out but poorer public school ppl have to spread it around?

Spot

poorer people are more resistant to viruses, they bodies deal with them all the time. You ever see poor kids walking around barefoot in the middle of winter, filthy, but they never seem to get sick?

Rick pampered prissies will be the first to croak Cheesy

Didn't help the poor in squalor during the plagues. Disease loves mess.

how much of that was because of their lack of resources ONCE they got sick?

like in the 3rd world?

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Reply #7 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 7:17pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 6:40pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 3:14pm:

So rich ppl with private schools keep their kids out but poorer public school ppl have to spread it around?

Spot

poorer people are more resistant to viruses, they bodies deal with them all the time. You ever see poor kids walking around barefoot in the middle of winter, filthy, but they never seem to get sick?

Rick pampered prissies will be the first to croak Cheesy

Did you learn that from an immunologist at your Mesa meeting?

I guess lower socioeconomic groups have higher rates of smoking, obesity etc protect them from this virus?

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Reply #8 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 7:21pm

What gets me is how Parents pay an absolute fortune for their kids in Private School systems, but their marks in HSC are basically not much better than Govt Public School kids.

Just goes to show that Australian Rich are the 'Stupid Rich' of the world. Grin

Seems the Private School System is like one of those Products sold on those Infomercials. Grin

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Reply #9 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 7:32pm

These parents that have their kids in these private schools are both working and have almost bare cupboards to afford their kids this privileged, with the hope they will do better somehow.

Maybe that's the fallacy, thinking private schools are better than public schools?

I had experience with my kids, attending both private and public, over the course of time.
And must say, the public schools were better, more entertaining, better excursions, for some reason, but maybe that was back in the 1980's and 90's.
Don't know how to compare them now as I do not have school age children anymore.
But my preference was public school I came to realise.

Going way back now, in the late 50s and early 60s in the heart of Melbourne.

My parents were immigrants, I ended up at a public school, I was not so fluent at english as we spoke Italian at home.
A friend nearby (of Italian immiigrants also) was sent to a Catholic Private School.

I don't know how she did at the private school, but I still have my little books with teachers scores in them from way back then.
I had something like 8 1/2 for English and maths.

I maintained those good marks right throughout my public schooling.

Funny thing is, in my adult years, when I was thinking about schools for my kids, mum says to me....she was glad I went to a public government school because I learnt something, whereas the other girl, went to a Catholic Private School, and all she learnt was how to pray!!

But that was then.

Just thought I would share.

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Reply #10 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 7:43pm

Private Schools: A Book on how to get rich at the price of $32.95 with pages of 'how to write a book and get rich from it' all inside.

Private Schools only really sprang up, just like Universities becoming 'Businesses' - because of the Chinese (quasi Indian) Students paying for it. They never really offered anything exceptionally different or 'better' - just more expensive.

At the most, Private School kids are more behaved for they fear 'expulsion or suspension' upon the wrath of their parents forking out all that money.
Compared to the Public Govt School kids who can tell the teachers to F*uck off in class, etc.

...but it's the 'adversity' of having to learn in such a Public-Government School environment that brings out the better and stronger kids down the line.

Public Govt School kids learn to Scuba Dive in colder, rougher seas.
Private School kids learn to Scuba Dive in a sedate 'safe' Swimming Pool for x5 times the cost (goes to chlorination costs Wink

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Both become Scuba Divers. Wink

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Reply #11 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 7:56pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2020 at 7:43pm:

Private Schools: A Book on how to get rich at the price of $32.95 with pages of 'how to write a book and get rich from it' all inside.

Private Schools only really sprang up, just like Universities becoming 'Businesses' - because of the Chinese (quasi Indian) Students paying for it. They never really offered anything exceptionally different or 'better' - just more expensive.

At the most, Private School kids are more behaved for they fear 'expulsion or suspension' upon the wrath of their parents forking out all that money.
Compared to the Public Govt School kids who can tell the teachers to F*uck off in class, etc.

...but it's the 'adversity' of having to learn in such a Public-Government School environment that brings out the better and stronger kids down the line.

Public Govt School kids learn to Scuba Dive in colder, rougher seas.
Private School kids learn to Scuba Dive in a sedate 'safe' Swimming Pool for x5 times the cost (goes to chlorination costs Wink

)

Both become Scuba Divers. Wink

That probably sums up the difference. How hard the parents work for their education and privilege to attend the school.
It's the new 'strap' to use as discipline.

Having said that, I must write, when we did our high school 50th anniversary, some of the other attendees, that are now retired school teachers, I say to them, how would they feel about being a teacher in today's times?
And the 3 of them said, they are glad they were teachers in their time back then in the 70's 80's etc. and wouldn't know how to handle the kids of today and all their behavioural and bullying problems.

So in a way, I do feel for the teachers of public schools, they don't have it that easy.

When I taught keyboard/music at a primary school, although they had a "no bullying policy" in place, it took a form of a different turn...ostracization.

That was noticeable, very silent problem, no verbal bullying. Probably needs some more implementation of teaching kindness and how people have feelings etc?

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20470 Gordon Gender:	Re: Public vs Private Schools Reply #12 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 8:09pm The elite private schools do way better than the public schools in my area.
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Reply #13 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 8:17pm

School systems themselves are a varied thing.
I went to one School that was full of Rednecks (Housos) and physical violence.
I went to another School that was full of Gays and mental violence.

You can spot the Single-Sex students and Co-Educational students in a Night Club: The Single-Sex students are getting together with the opposite sex on the dance floor. You can imagine the nun or teacher there with a ruler trying to keep them apart. While the Co-Eds, having spent all day in school with the opposite sex, are off in the corner in their 'all boy' or 'all girl' groups socialising 'single-sex' like.

Then you see them in the Work Place and the Co-Eds seem to gel well, while the Single-Sex students find it hard to cope with 'working' with the opposite sex and thus you find a majority of 'harrassment' or 'affairs' (over-achieving) happening from them.
Malcom Turnbull couldn't tell the difference between a Co-Ed 'working' relationship and Barnaby's 'Affair', so he just banned 'any' relationship... which was unfair on the more stable 'Co-Eds'.

etc, etc.

Did you know that ADHD (ADD in the old days) was mostly a 'Govt Public School' thing and mostly in Co-Ed schools?
Even more mostly with 'single-parent' kids. Better give em a ritalin sedation pill. Wink

Seems 'Autism' is the new thing with every Govt School kid being spectified as Autistic.

Did you know that the Victorian version of Govt/Public School is the opposite of the NSW version?

But did you know that in Melbourne: The Rich are Bad, the Poor are good... but in Sydney, the Poor are the Criminals and the Rich are the good?

...and yet at times we find it hard to understand when 'one group' describe themselves as the only Australian way.

ScoMo thinks that the Hillsong Way is the only way. Tongue

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Reply #14 - Mar 18^th, 2020 at 8:33pm

That's why an overall Gronski or Metherill Education 'Plan' or system will never work. Because Australia's Educational demographics are all as varied and different as the States and Regionals... unless you go backwards in time with a 'generalisation' like a Pauline Hanson 'One Nation'. Roll Eyes

It's only in the last 20 years that 'Clever' kids have been given more light and not being put in the same basket as the 'drop-out' kids, just because they didn't go through with years 11 & 12 which are designed for 'University' entry and preparation.

Now take it from me, who wagged school at the age of 10 to hang out in University libraries to do a thing called 'research' long before one 'officially' goes to a Uni to do such.
That Clever kids don't do well in Uni's.
Let's take TAFE... where many of the Clever kids leave Uni because (eg) their Art classes are 80% 'paperwork' on Great Artists, while TAFE is 80% 'practical' making them into great Artists.

Doctor-Smart-Uni
Surgeon-Clever-Tafe
...well, in a perfect world, this is how it should be.
But the Australian System is still generalised and biased heavily upon 'just Uni' as the only avenue for success and excelling. Roll Eyes

I suppose in a Nation that has 2/3rds more 'paperwork' than any other nation - going to Uni would be your best option to join the 'COMMON' workforce Wink

While some TAFE Brickies Labourer is working out for $500 a day because he (& she) doesn't need to pay $300 a month to a gym to 'work it out'. Wink

Let's throw in Blue Collars and White Collars too.
For starters, most White Collars think they are 'superior' to Blue Collars - but they are just 'Process Workers' too... just on the Mental conveyor belt, rather than physical.

Go into a White Collar Kitchen/Lunch Break Room and it's quiet and workers are 'cleaning things' - an act of doing something that doesn't need thinking about.
While the Blue Collars - having just done 4 hours of mindless machine work, are all reading books, newspapers and having discussions... anything to get the mind ticking for some much needed stimulation.
I've walked into a Blue Collar tea room of Walnut employees and heard a discussion on 'Quantum Physics' Shocked

So you see - it is a 'varied' Educational Australia out there - where the Eggs SHOULD NOT be put in one basket (like our Economy is with Asia Roll Eyes

). Each student is different and each 'subject' is different.

Each Brain has two Hemispheres - one is smart, one is clever. If you cater an Education system just around 'smart' kids - then you are breeding a nation of 'Half-Wits'.

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