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Reply #60 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 5:57pm
 
I don't doubt Labs in China were playing with fire.
But it's in China's AND AMERICA'S  best interests to have the world believe the Virus was man-made from a 'Lab'.

...because if it was from pollution, filth and human squalor - then both China and USA would have to compromise their industries and culture to become more 'Environmentally' compliant in the face of the world.
Which both can not afford to do or want to.

So you can see why 'both' nation would like people to believe it is because of naughty Scientists instead.
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Reply #61 - Jan 3rd, 2021 at 7:29pm
 
China has blamed Italy, India the US and even frozen Aussie beef for this Kung Flu which shows they aren't sticking to the bullshit story about the wet market in Wuhan being where this Kung Flu originated.

Still no evidence provided by anyone to back up claim this virus came from the wet market the idiots fell for that hook line and sinker.

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‘Growing body of evidence’ shows COVID-19 leaked from Chinese lab: US official


U.S. National Security Adviser Matthew Pottinger is doubling down on the theory that COVID-19 leaked from a Chinese government-run lab in Wuhan.

Pottinger, a staunch critic of Beijing, allegedly made the claim in a recent Zoom meeting with British officials.

“There is a growing body of evidence that the lab is likely the most credible source of the virus,” Pottinger reportedly said, according to the Daily Mail.

Pottinger, one of the first U.S. officials to raise alarms inside White House walls about the origins of the virus back in January 2020, has reportedly suspected since the early days of the outbreak that the coronavirus originated in a Chinese lab.

He ordered U.S. intelligence agencies to search for evidence that it had, the New York Times reported in April.

A Chinese virologist who said she did some of the earliest research on COVID-19 has publicly claimed COVID-19 was man-made, and that the Chinese government covered up its dangers. Western medical experts have discredited the theory.

More here- https://nypost.com/2021/01/02/growing-body-of-evidence-shows-covid-19-leaked-fro...


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Re: Chinese scientists created this Corona virus
Reply #62 - Jan 4th, 2021 at 7:08am
 
Can we admit none of us knows for sure where this virus originated? The question is - - is anyone able to explain how we prevent the next one ?

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Reply #63 - Jan 4th, 2021 at 8:27am
 
There is zero evidence to support the idiocy this Kung Flu came from the Wuhan wet market.

China has changed their story on the origins of this virus they reject the wet market theory.

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China suggests COVID-19 arrived in Wuhan via frozen meat products including ‘Australian steak’


As Chinese authorities attempt to rewrite history by claiming the coronavirus started overseas, one state media outlet has suggested it may have arrived via imported frozen food from countries including Australia.

An article in the Global Times over the weekend argued that Western countries had attempted to “shift the narrative from their own shortcomings” by accusing Wuhan of being “where the coronavirus began”.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/china-suggests-covid19-arrived-...

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Reply #64 - Jan 4th, 2021 at 12:22pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 4th, 2021 at 8:27am:
There is zero evidence to support the idiocy this Kung Flu came from the Wuhan wet market.
China has changed their story on the origins of this virus they reject the wet market theory.

China rejects the ongoing threat posed by the warm meat market as their chief thug is a personal friend of the woman who heads the organisation promoting this industry. The fools see this trade as an integral part of Chinese culture. Well maybe it is but that doesn’t reduce the threat it poses to the remainder of the planet’s occupants. But hey, China isn’t the only nation to unleash dangerous plagues through careless consumption of wild (medium rare?) animal flesh.
Having said that it could still be possible China engineered a dangerous virus found in the warm meet market in Wuhan .
The big danger is in letting any nation off the hook that ignores such threats. Covid 19 wasn’t the first and won’t be the last. Where did Ebola come from?
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Reply #65 - Jan 5th, 2021 at 7:23am
 
There was that 'offshoot' theory based upon what 'Western' researchers in China has to say.
Western Researchers who enter the 'Bat Caves' tell how they wear full PPE in regards to the bat poo full of variants of Corona. How many 'get sick' if they don't PPE correctly, like in the early years. But they do admit that 'chinese peasant workers' who wear only boots, shorts, shirt often get 'sick' from the bat poo corona variants. That 'sickness' is often taken back home to Wuhan - this time, it just kinda 'kicked off'.

Bat's have a wonderful defence mechanism to protect them from predators entering their cave. You don't dare mess with their shyte.

Stories of early Western researchers getting sick too and even dying. In fact, many 'Bat Cave' workers and researchers have died from bat poo infection (for lack of protection).


>>>> If a Chinese Labratorian 'did' invent Corona Virus straight from a Lab? Chances are that the Medical Scientist wanted to sabotage all the Militaries/Governments of the world. Let alone make the self-indulgent Economies crumble, make the Medical Essential and give the over-populated world a shave. Giving the world a chance to breath again.

I mean - the answer may be 'simple' and not as complicated  as everyone want's it to be?
China is just denying because it has the power to do so.
Soon it will be sexually assaulting other nations in the work place.  Wink
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Reply #66 - Jan 5th, 2021 at 9:49am
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 5th, 2021 at 7:23am:
Soon it will be sexually assaulting other nations in the work place.  Wink

HUH? Where did that idea come from? Clever, given their equipment is so small few would even notice.
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Reply #67 - Jan 5th, 2021 at 9:53am
 
Probably better to not keep this proven conspiracy theory going.
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Reply #68 - Jan 26th, 2021 at 10:55am
 
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WHO advisor: COVID-19 pandemic likely started via lab leak


Calls wet market origin story a lie

Jan 23, 2021

One year after the pandemic started, World Health Organization advisor Jamie Metzl wants China to come clean about the origins of the COVID-19 virus.

The Kansas City-born, New York-based Metzl, who served as Deputy Staff Director of the Foreign Relations Committee under then Senator Joe Biden (2001-2003) and before that on the National Security Council (1997-99) and the State Department (1999-01) under President Bill Clinton),theorizes it was most likely an accidental lab leak in Wuhan.

“There’s no irrefutable evidence,” said Metzl, who was appointed to the WHO’s expert advisory committee on human genome editing in 2019 and is also the author of Hacking Darwin.“There’s just more evidence and as more evidence arrives, the case for accidental lab leak, in my view, increases.”

What about the original theory that this all started in a wet market in Wuhan?
That was a lie. And the Chinese government knew very early on that that was a lie. And so in the face of overwhelming evidence in May of last year, the Chinese government shifted its position.

Will a change of the U.S. administration help find an answer?

Biden will be tougher on China than President Trump because President Biden is very smart and strategic and he understands that American power and American strength doesn’t rest on bluster, it rests on principles, it rests on partnerships, and alliances and accountability. And the Trump administration unfortunately gave China a pass by over politicizing the question of the origin of the virus by alienating America’s partners and allies.

https://torontosun.com/news/world/who-advisor-covid-19-pandemic-started-via-a-la...


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Reply #69 - Jan 27th, 2021 at 8:17am
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 4:18pm:
I've heard rumours that it was created for use on protesters in Hong Kong.  No idea how feasible that is but it shouldn't be discounted.

No way of knowing it that’s true or not.
We need to keep in mind though even IF the Chinese didn’t engineer the virus in that lab in Wuhan their idiocy in continuing to support the ‘warm meat’ market is going to unleash any number of disastrous plagues on our species. Can I remind everyone the Chinese aren’t the only people to play this dangerous game. Where, for instance, did ebola come from?
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Reply #70 - Sep 12th, 2021 at 7:52pm
 
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26 out of 27 signatories of the Lancet letter dismissing lab-leak theory of COVID-19 origin are linked to Wuhan researchers: Report


11 September, 2021

A new probe carried out by the Telegraph has revealed that 26 out of 27 scientists who wrote a letter in the Lancet medical journal trashing the lab-leak theory of the COVID-19 outbreak have or had links to researchers from China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Ever since the coronavirus outbreak flared up in the central Chinese city of Wuhan, the ground zero of the pandemic that later swept across the world, scientists have been debating about the origins of the contagion, with the virus being leaked from a lab being one of the most widely believed hypothesis. Many had suspected that the virus was leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China where researches on the virus are regularly conducted.

But the clamour surrounding the leak of the virus from Wuhan was quelled after 27 scientists in the Lancet rejected the theory as baseless and insisted that the virus originated through conventional means. A letter written by the 27 scientists published by The Lancet in February 2020 had said that they “strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin,” and had claimed that scientists from multiple countries “overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife.”

Being published in a respected medical journal, this letter had effectively shut down any serious probe into the lab leak theory for the origin of the virus at that time. While the authors of the letter had not revealed any link with the Wuhan lab, soon it was revealed that the letter was orchestrated by British zoologist Peter Daszak, president of the US-based EcoHealth Alliance, which funded research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

In June last year, the journal was forced to issue a clarification regarding Peter Daszak’s link with the laboratory, admitting that vital information was not revealed earlier when the letter was published.

At the time of publishing the letter, Daszak had failed to disclose his conflict of interest when signing the letter. Daszak’s organization, the EcoHealth Alliance, funnelled $3.4 million in grants from the National Institutes of Health to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study bat coronaviruses between 2014 and 2019.

Now, the investigation by the Telegraph reveals that not just Daszak, but baring one all the signatories to the letter published in The Lancet medical journal were associated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, raising concerns over the possible prejudice in dishing out a clean chit to their Chinese counterparts.

According to emails made public through Freedom of Information requests, Daszak had reportedly admitted on February 8 that he composed the letter after being shown support by his collaborators in China.


Out of 27 researchers who signed the Lancet letter, only one – Dr Ronald Corley, a microbiology expert from Boston University – was found to have no links back to funders or researchers at the Wuhan Institute.

More here- https://www.opindia.com/2021/09/26-of-27-scientists-that-dismissed-covid-19-lab-...


Nice to have journalists looking into it.  Smiley
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Reply #71 - Sep 13th, 2021 at 7:33pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 23rd, 2020 at 8:51pm:
The further you look into it the evidence shows this Corona virus was created in a lab in Wuhan.

I don't believe it was deliberately released I think it was an accident it was released and China tried to cover it up. There is a lot of money in creating vaccines for viral infections you only have to look at the potential money from a HIV vaccine that's why there is a lot of virus research.

This 2019 Corona virus is a genetically modified Bat virus that was created in a lab in China.

Story behind it here with links to peer reviewed scientific papers going back to 2002 along with Patent applications.

It's a really nasty virus that has been engineered so humans are a perfect host.

https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of...

Can you pin this Gordon?

Why is Western media avoiding speculation about laboratory creation or accidental release from the warm meat market in China ? Worried about damaging trade or unwilling to face the fact its possible China has already commenced World War III ?
Not the only issue the media are avoiding. Nothing has been said about Russian & Chinese satellite surveillance giving the Taliban a massive strategic advantage in Afghanistan.


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Reply #72 - Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:10pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 23rd, 2020 at 8:51pm:
The further you look into it the evidence shows this Corona virus was created in a lab in Wuhan.

I don't believe it was deliberately released I think it was an accident it was released and China tried to cover it up. There is a lot of money in creating vaccines for viral infections you only have to look at the potential money from a HIV vaccine that's why there is a lot of virus research.

This 2019 Corona virus is a genetically modified Bat virus that was created in a lab in China.

Story behind it here with links to peer reviewed scientific papers going back to 2002 along with Patent applications.

It's a really nasty virus that has been engineered so humans are a perfect host.

https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of...

Can you pin this Gordon?

Why is Western media avoiding speculation about laboratory creation or accidental release from the warm meat market in China ? Worried about damaging trade or unwilling to face the fact its possible China has already commenced World War III ?
Not the only issue the media are avoiding. Nothing has been said about Russian & Chinese satellite surveillance giving the Taliban a massive strategic advantage in Afghanistan.



Here's how it went down. Probably not long after the pandemic started the CIA briefed Trump and said, yeah, short odds are it came from the lab at Wuhan. Trump being Trump blurted out that top secret info.

The left wing media who will tell us the sky is green if Trump says it's blue went on into full lab leak denial narrative and now their hubris is preventing them from walking back how vigorously they attacked lab leak and labeled anyone who even suggests it as being a conspiracy theorists.

And yes, I suspect the US doesn't want to take the Chinese on head on over this, not just yet.
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Reply #73 - Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:21pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:10pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 23rd, 2020 at 8:51pm:
The further you look into it the evidence shows this Corona virus was created in a lab in Wuhan.

I don't believe it was deliberately released I think it was an accident it was released and China tried to cover it up. There is a lot of money in creating vaccines for viral infections you only have to look at the potential money from a HIV vaccine that's why there is a lot of virus research.

This 2019 Corona virus is a genetically modified Bat virus that was created in a lab in China.

Story behind it here with links to peer reviewed scientific papers going back to 2002 along with Patent applications.

It's a really nasty virus that has been engineered so humans are a perfect host.

https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of...

Can you pin this Gordon?

Why is Western media avoiding speculation about laboratory creation or accidental release from the warm meat market in China ? Worried about damaging trade or unwilling to face the fact its possible China has already commenced World War III ?
Not the only issue the media are avoiding. Nothing has been said about Russian & Chinese satellite surveillance giving the Taliban a massive strategic advantage in Afghanistan.



Here's how it went down. Probably not long after the pandemic started the CIA briefed Trump and said, yeah, short odds are it came from the lab at Wuhan. Trump being Trump blurted out that top secret info.

The left wing media who will tell us the sky is green if Trump says it's blue went on into full lab leak denial narrative and now their hubris is preventing them from walking back how vigorously they attacked lab leak and labeled anyone who even suggests it as being a conspiracy theorists.

And yes, I suspect the US doesn't want to take the Chinese on head on over this, not just yet.

It didn't help that Dr Peter Daszak and others labelled the lab leak theory impossible and made fraudulent claims about the pandemic's origins to cover-up his involvement in funding the Wuhan lab to research bat coronaviruses. Dr Shi Zhengli stomped on the lableak theory as well... But then she was in charge of the research and is a regime whore, so...


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Reply #74 - Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:32pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:21pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:10pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 23rd, 2020 at 8:51pm:
The further you look into it the evidence shows this Corona virus was created in a lab in Wuhan.

I don't believe it was deliberately released I think it was an accident it was released and China tried to cover it up. There is a lot of money in creating vaccines for viral infections you only have to look at the potential money from a HIV vaccine that's why there is a lot of virus research.

This 2019 Corona virus is a genetically modified Bat virus that was created in a lab in China.

Story behind it here with links to peer reviewed scientific papers going back to 2002 along with Patent applications.

It's a really nasty virus that has been engineered so humans are a perfect host.

https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of...

Can you pin this Gordon?

Why is Western media avoiding speculation about laboratory creation or accidental release from the warm meat market in China ? Worried about damaging trade or unwilling to face the fact its possible China has already commenced World War III ?
Not the only issue the media are avoiding. Nothing has been said about Russian & Chinese satellite surveillance giving the Taliban a massive strategic advantage in Afghanistan.



Here's how it went down. Probably not long after the pandemic started the CIA briefed Trump and said, yeah, short odds are it came from the lab at Wuhan. Trump being Trump blurted out that top secret info.

The left wing media who will tell us the sky is green if Trump says it's blue went on into full lab leak denial narrative and now their hubris is preventing them from walking back how vigorously they attacked lab leak and labeled anyone who even suggests it as being a conspiracy theorists.

And yes, I suspect the US doesn't want to take the Chinese on head on over this, not just yet.

It didn't help that Dr Peter Daszak and others labelled the lab leak theory impossible and made fraudulent claims about the pandemic's origins to cover-up his involvement in funding the Wuhan lab to research bat coronaviruses. Dr Shi Zhengli stomped on the lableak theory as well... But then she was in charge of the research and is a regime whore, so...




I know you don't like Brett Wienstien much, but right when all that was going on he said something along the line of,  the weirdest thing is that it seems like all the virologists had the wagons circled and were singing from the same song sheet, when in real life, scientists try to tear each other down (respectfully with data) and get their own ideas up.

They called people conspiracy theorists for thinking it was a genetically engineered bio-weapon when the Occam's razor scenario is that it was probably collected from the bowels of some bat inhabited cave, looked at in the lab then.....OOOPS.
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