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Reply #75 - Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:43pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:32pm:
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The further you look into it the evidence shows this Corona virus was created in a lab in Wuhan.

I don't believe it was deliberately released I think it was an accident it was released and China tried to cover it up. There is a lot of money in creating vaccines for viral infections you only have to look at the potential money from a HIV vaccine that's why there is a lot of virus research.

This 2019 Corona virus is a genetically modified Bat virus that was created in a lab in China.

Story behind it here with links to peer reviewed scientific papers going back to 2002 along with Patent applications.

It's a really nasty virus that has been engineered so humans are a perfect host.

https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of...

Can you pin this Gordon?

Why is Western media avoiding speculation about laboratory creation or accidental release from the warm meat market in China ? Worried about damaging trade or unwilling to face the fact its possible China has already commenced World War III ?
Not the only issue the media are avoiding. Nothing has been said about Russian & Chinese satellite surveillance giving the Taliban a massive strategic advantage in Afghanistan.



Here's how it went down. Probably not long after the pandemic started the CIA briefed Trump and said, yeah, short odds are it came from the lab at Wuhan. Trump being Trump blurted out that top secret info.

The left wing media who will tell us the sky is green if Trump says it's blue went on into full lab leak denial narrative and now their hubris is preventing them from walking back how vigorously they attacked lab leak and labeled anyone who even suggests it as being a conspiracy theorists.

And yes, I suspect the US doesn't want to take the Chinese on head on over this, not just yet.

It didn't help that Dr Peter Daszak and others labelled the lab leak theory impossible and made fraudulent claims about the pandemic's origins to cover-up his involvement in funding the Wuhan lab to research bat coronaviruses. Dr Shi Zhengli stomped on the lableak theory as well... But then she was in charge of the research and is a regime whore, so...




I know you don't like Brett Wienstien much, but right when all that was going on he said something along the line of,  the weirdest thing is that it seems like all the virologists had the wagons circled and were singing from the same song sheet, when in real life, scientists try to tear each other down (respectfully with data) and get their own ideas up.

They called people conspiracy theorists for thinking it was a genetically engineered bio-weapon when the Occam's razor scenario is that it was probably collected from the bowels of some bat inhabited cave, looked at in the lab then.....OOOPS.

I believed Bret Weinstein back then when his credibility was intact.

Also, there were many virologists before the pandemic who were concerned about the lax security protocols and cleaning procedures at the Wuhan lab while they were researching gain of function of coronaviruses.

Others were stunned that many doctors in China did not know of or use effective virucidal agents normally used to clean labs and hospitals where highly infective viruses are studied or present due to infected patients being examined. Often surfaces were being wiped down using only liquid soap.

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Reply #77 - Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:57pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:43pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:32pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:21pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 8:10pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Sep 13th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 23rd, 2020 at 8:51pm:
The further you look into it the evidence shows this Corona virus was created in a lab in Wuhan.

I don't believe it was deliberately released I think it was an accident it was released and China tried to cover it up. There is a lot of money in creating vaccines for viral infections you only have to look at the potential money from a HIV vaccine that's why there is a lot of virus research.

This 2019 Corona virus is a genetically modified Bat virus that was created in a lab in China.

Story behind it here with links to peer reviewed scientific papers going back to 2002 along with Patent applications.

It's a really nasty virus that has been engineered so humans are a perfect host.

https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of...

Can you pin this Gordon?

Why is Western media avoiding speculation about laboratory creation or accidental release from the warm meat market in China ? Worried about damaging trade or unwilling to face the fact its possible China has already commenced World War III ?
Not the only issue the media are avoiding. Nothing has been said about Russian & Chinese satellite surveillance giving the Taliban a massive strategic advantage in Afghanistan.



Here's how it went down. Probably not long after the pandemic started the CIA briefed Trump and said, yeah, short odds are it came from the lab at Wuhan. Trump being Trump blurted out that top secret info.

The left wing media who will tell us the sky is green if Trump says it's blue went on into full lab leak denial narrative and now their hubris is preventing them from walking back how vigorously they attacked lab leak and labeled anyone who even suggests it as being a conspiracy theorists.

And yes, I suspect the US doesn't want to take the Chinese on head on over this, not just yet.

It didn't help that Dr Peter Daszak and others labelled the lab leak theory impossible and made fraudulent claims about the pandemic's origins to cover-up his involvement in funding the Wuhan lab to research bat coronaviruses. Dr Shi Zhengli stomped on the lableak theory as well... But then she was in charge of the research and is a regime whore, so...




I know you don't like Brett Wienstien much, but right when all that was going on he said something along the line of,  the weirdest thing is that it seems like all the virologists had the wagons circled and were singing from the same song sheet, when in real life, scientists try to tear each other down (respectfully with data) and get their own ideas up.

They called people conspiracy theorists for thinking it was a genetically engineered bio-weapon when the Occam's razor scenario is that it was probably collected from the bowels of some bat inhabited cave, looked at in the lab then.....OOOPS.

I believed Bret Weinstein back then when his credibility was intact.

Also, there were many virologists before the pandemic who were concerned about the lax security protocols and cleaning procedures at the Wuhan lab while they were researching gain of function of coronaviruses.

Others were stunned that many doctors in China did not know of or use effective virucidal agents normally used to clean labs and hospitals where highly infective viruses are studied or present due to infected patients being examined. Often surfaces were being wiped down using only liquid soap.



Josh Rogin nailed it ages ago. BTW, BW is still credible.
Listen to his latest podcast with JR which is mostly devoted to his new book, both he and Heather are amazing. I wouldn't write him off totally.


In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin-chaos-under-heaven-...
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Reply #78 - Sep 26th, 2021 at 9:21pm
 
Trump was right in saying this virus was made in China. He would be aware Fauci funded it through the NIH in 2015.

Rand Paul has caight Fauci telling lies under oath about gain of function research in China being funded by the US because Obama outlawed gain of function research in the US when the H5N1 virus was made to be airbrone transmissable.

It appears this virus was made in a bio security level 3 lab in Wuhan and not their BSL4 lab which has better security.

People should be held accountable for this and those who tried to cover it up like Peter Daszak should be exposed.

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Reply #79 - Sep 27th, 2021 at 10:35am
 
I'm going to get all my virology advice from a youtube channel named peak prosperity.
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Reply #80 - Sep 27th, 2021 at 7:12pm
 
John Dillermand wrote on Sep 27th, 2021 at 10:35am:
I'm going to get all my virology advice from a youtube channel named peak prosperity.


Why not? Many people seem to be infectious disease specialists these days ...
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Reply #81 - Oct 25th, 2021 at 9:06pm
 
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Exclusive: How Amateur Sleuths Broke the Wuhan Lab Story and Embarrassed the Media


For most of last year, the idea that the coronavirus pandemic could have been triggered by a laboratory accident in Wuhan, China, was largely dismissed as a racist conspiracy theory of the alt-right. The Washington Post in early 2020 accused Senator Tom Cotton of "fanning the embers of a conspiracy theory that has been repeatedly debunked by experts." CNN jumped in with "How to debunk coronavirus conspiracy theories and misinformation from friends and family." Most other mainstream outlets, from The New YorkTimes ("fringe theory") to NPR ("Scientists debunk lab accident theory"), were equally dismissive. (Newsweek was an exception, reporting in April 2020 that the WIV was involved in gain-of-function research and might have been the site of a lab leak; Mother Jones, Business Insider, the NY Post and FOX News were also exceptions.) But in the last week or so, the story has burst into the public discourse. President Joe Biden has demanded an investigation by U.S. intelligence. And the mainstream media, in an astonishing about-face, is treating the possibility with deadly seriousness.

We now know, thanks to a Freedom of Information Act request, that Daszak orchestrated the letter to squelch talk of a lab leak. He drafted it, reached out to fellow scientists to sign it, and worked behind the scenes to make it seem that the letter represented the views of a broad range of scientists.

When the Trump administration canceled EcoHealth Alliance contracts that would have spent millions on new virus research, 60 Minutes ran a segment that painted Daszak as a martyr to the right-wing conspiracy machine. For right-thinking people everywhere, it seemed like an easy call: The enemy of my enemy is my friend: thus, the lab-leak theory is bunk.


In the WIV's grant applications and awards, The Seeker found detailed descriptions of the Institute's research plans, and they were damning: Projects were underway to test the infectivity of novel SARS-like viruses they'd discovered in human cells and in lab animals, to see how they might mutate as they crossed species, and to genetically recombine pieces of different viruses—all being done at woefully inadequate biosecurity levels. All the elements for a disaster were on hand.

That scientific discourse jumped tracks on January 6, 2021, when the University of Washington virologist Jesse Bloom, one of the country's most respected COVID-19 researchers, became the first major scientific figure to publicly legitimize DRASTIC's contributions. "Yes, I follow the work," he tweeted, sending tremors through the scientific establishment. "I don't agree [with] all of it, but some parts seem important & correct." Bloom singled out Mona Rahalkar's paper on the Mojiang mine, then added that in the early days of the pandemic, "I thought lab escape very unlikely.
Based on subsequent work, I now say quite plausible."


Other scientists pressured Bloom to reconsider, but he held his ground, and the wall of silence began to crumble. In May, 17 scientists from Harvard, Yale, MIT, Stanford, and other leading institutions, including Chan, joined Bloom in a letter in Science calling for a thorough investigation of the Wuhan lab.


More here- https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-how-amateur-sleuths-broke-wuhan-lab-story-emb...


There will be more coming out on this it appears Fauci and the NIH funded Wuhan lab to create this virus.
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Reply #82 - Oct 25th, 2021 at 9:13pm
 
Eco Health Alliance run by Peter Daszak wanted funding to do this in Wuhan

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16. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES THE INTRODUCTION OF “HUMAN-SPECIFIC CLEAVAGE
SITES”


Human protease-specific site insertion was proposed. The proposal does not specify exactly which
protease, but does discuss Furin in the preceding text.


We will analyze all SARSr-CoV S gene sequences for appropriately conserved proteolytic
cleavage sites in S2 and for the presence of potential Furin cleavage sites74,75”
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SARSr-CoV S with mismatches in proteolytic cleavage sites can be activated by exogenous
Trypsin or Cathepsin L.

Where clear mismatches occur, we will introduce appropriate human-specific cleavage sites
and evaluate growth potential in Vero cells and HAE cultures.”


https://drasticresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/defuse-project-drastic-analy...


This DRASTIC paper is what Newsweek reported on in my previous post.

Peter Daszak said he would introduce human specific cleavage sites into a corona virus and now we have a pandemic from this virus. Then he tried to cover it up by branding all those who thought it was a lab leak conspiracy theorists.

It gets worse to sidestep US regulations all this was done in Biosecurity Level 3 Lab and not the much safer BSL4 lab.
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Reply #83 - Oct 25th, 2021 at 9:23pm
 
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In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan


A spokesman for Dr. Fauci says he has been “entirely truthful,” but a new letter belatedly acknowledging the National Institutes of Health’s support for virus-enhancing research adds more heat to the ongoing debate over whether a lab leak could have sparked the pandemic.

I totally resent the lie you are now propagating.”Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared to be channeling the frustration of millions of Americans when he spoke those words during an invective-laden, made-for-Twitter Senate hearing on July 20. You didn’t have to be a Democrat to be fed up with all the xenophobic finger-pointing and outright disinformation, coming mainly from the right, up to and including the claim that COVID-19 was a bioweapon cooked up in a lab.

The immediate target of Dr. Fauci’s wrath was Senator Rand Paul, who was pressing the nation’s top doctor to say whether the National Institutes of Health had ever funded risky coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Based on new information disclosed by the National Institutes of Health,
however, Paul might have been onto something.


On Wednesday, the NIH sent a letter to members of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce that acknowledged two facts. One was that EcoHealth Alliance, a New York City–based nonprofit that partners with far-flung laboratories to research and prevent the outbreak of emerging diseases, did indeed enhance a bat coronavirus to become potentially more infectious to humans, which the NIH letter described as an “unexpected result” of the research it funded that was carried out in partnership with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The second was that EcoHealth Alliance violated the terms of its grant conditions stipulating that it had to report if its research increased the viral growth of a pathogen by tenfold.


The disclosures of the last four months—since Vanity Fair was first to detail how conflicts of interest resulting from U.S. government funding of controversial virology research hampered America’s investigation into COVID-19’s origins—present an increasingly disturbing picture.

Early last month, The Intercept published more than 900 pages of documents it obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the NIH, relating to EcoHealth Alliance’s grant research. But there was one document missing, a fifth and final progress report that EcoHealth Alliance had been required to submit at the end of its grant period in 2019.

Dr. Fauci’s spokesperson told Vanity Fair that EcoHealth Alliance’s research did not fall under that framework, since the experiments being funded “were not reasonably expected to increase transmissibility or virulence in humans.”

However, Alina Chan, a Boston-based scientist and coauthor of the book Viral: The Search for the Origin of COVID-19, said the NIH was in a “very challenging position. They funded research internationally to help study novel pathogens and prevent against them. But they had no way to know what viruses had been collected, what experiments had been conducted, and what accidents might have occurred.”

As scientists remain in a stalemate over the pandemic’s origins, another disclosure last month made clear that EcoHealth Alliance, in partnership with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was aiming to do the kind of research that could accidentally have led to the pandemic. On September 20, a group of internet sleuths calling themselves DRASTIC (short for Decentralized Radical Autonomous Search Team Investigating COVID-19) released a leaked $14 million grant proposal that EcoHealth Alliance had submitted in 2018 to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

It proposed partnering with the Wuhan Institute of Virology and constructing SARS-related bat coronaviruses into which they would insert “human-specific cleavage sites” as a way to “evaluate growth potential” of the pathogens.Perhaps not surprisingly, DARPA rejected the proposal, assessing that it failed to fully address the risks of gain-of-function research


The leaked grant proposal struck a number of scientists and researchers as significant for one reason. One distinctive segment of SARS-CoV-2’s genetic code is a furin cleavage site that makes the virus more infectious by allowing it to efficiently enter human cells. That is just the feature that EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan Institute of Virology had proposed to engineer in the 2018 grant proposal.

More here- https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-...


Trump should have fired Fauci Biden should fire him.

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Reply #84 - Oct 25th, 2021 at 10:22pm
 
Fauci needs to be put on trial
mass murder of 5 million people
https://coronaboard.com/

- a fair trial and a fair hanging -
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26 Lancet scientists who trashed theory that Covid leaked from Chinese lab have links to Wuhan


Of the 27 scientists who wrote a letter in The Lancet medical journal dismissing the possibility that Covid-19 originated from a Wuhan lab, 26 have links to its Chinese researchers, their colleagues or its benefactors, a new investigation has revealed.

On March 7 last year, the influential journal published the letter in which the 27 scientists said they ‘strongly condemned conspiracy theories’ surrounding the origins of the coronavirus pandemic that has impacted all corners of the world.

All debate into whether Covid-19 had man-made origins or leaked from the lab in Wuhan – the Chinese city that was ground-zero for the virus – was effectively shut down by the letter.

However, an investigation by The Daily Telegraph newspaper into the signatories has found that 26 of the 27 had some link to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where the leak was suspected – calling into question their impartiality. 

Signatories include Dr Peter Daszak, the British president of EcoHealth Alliance, which funnelled money into controversial research at a Wuhan Institute of Virology, and UK Government scientific adviser Sir Jeremy Farrar.

More- https://newsbinding.com/uk-news/26-lancet-scientists-who-trashed-theory-that-cov...


Lancet publication signed by 26 people with links to Wuhan lab which led to everyone questioning origins of kung flu called conspiracy theorists. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30418-9/fullt...
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Reply #86 - Nov 1st, 2021 at 8:32pm
 
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Richard Ebright says Peter Daszak has conflict of interest in WHO and Lancet investigations of Wuhan outbreak

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — A prominent molecular biologist at Rutgers University claims that a member of the World Health Organization (WHO) team investigating the origins of COVID-19 in Wuhan has a conflict of interest, due to his ties with the Wuhan lab at the center of the inquest.

British zoologist and the president of EcoHealth Alliance Peter Daszak is the only individual to be part of both the WHO and The Lancet teams investigating the origins of the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic. However, he has long-term professional and financial ties with the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which represents a conflict of interest.

Richard H. Ebright is the Board of Governors Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Rutgers University, and Laboratory Director at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology.He told Taiwan News that Daszak is the contractor who funded the WIV's research on bat SARS-related coronaviruses, with subcontracts of $200 million in USAID funding and $7 million in NIH funding.

Ebright said that Daszak is a collaborator on the WIV research for bat SARS-related coronaviruses. He lamented that the WHO named Daszak as a member of its review team, and The Lancet named Daszak as the head of its review team. Ebright said this makes "it clear that WHO and Lancet reviews cannot be considered credible investigations."

When asked whether Daszak had been involved in the controversial gain of function experiments on bat coronaviruses at the WIV, Ebright said: "Daszak has been a contractor, a collaborator, and a co-author on work at the WIV on construction and analysis of novel chimeric coronaviruses."

A report by Independent Science News and a search of U.S. government databases revealed that EcoHealth Alliance received US$39 million in funding from the Pentagon from 2013 to 2020. Adding another US$64.7 million from USAID, the report found that Daszak's "non-profit organization" has raked in over US$103 million from the U.S. government.

Since 2014, Daszak's organization has funneled some of this U.S. government funding into the WIV to carry out research on bat coronaviruses. In the first phase of research, which took place from 2014 to 2019, Daszak coordinated with Shi Zhengli (石正麗) — also known as "Bat Woman" — at the WIV to investigate and catalog bat coronaviruses across China. EcoHealth Alliance received US$3.7 million in funding from the NIH for this research, and 10 percent was channeled to the WIV, reported NPR.

The second phase, which started in 2019, involved gain-of-function (GoF) research on coronaviruses and chimeras in humanized mice from the lab of Ralph S. Baric of the University of North Carolina. In a video interview originally recorded on Dec. 9, 2019, Daszak mentioned the testing of modified coronaviruses on human cells and humanized mice in the WIV, just weeks before the first cases of COVID-19 were announced in the city of Wuhan, China.

Daszak has dismissed the possibility of a lab leak, insisting since the start of the pandemic it's a "conspiracy theory" — without providing evidence for his claim. A report by U.S. Right to Know alleges that emails released through freedom of information requests reveal that Daszak persuaded 26 prominent scientists to sign a statement published in The Lancet on Feb. 19 2020, claiming that any suggestions that COVID-19 was not of natural origin are "conspiracy theories."

More here- https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4119101
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Reply #87 - Dec 17th, 2021 at 4:18pm
 
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China 'could have engineered Covid' and Wuhan lab leak 'likely origin'


A Canadian molecular biologist told cross-party members of the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee on Wednesday that a leak from a lab in China's Wuhan region is now the more likely origin of the COVID-19 global pandemic.

More here-https://ground.news/article/wuhan-lab-leak-now-the-most-likely-origin-of-covid-m...



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Reply #88 - Dec 17th, 2021 at 10:51pm
 
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Researchers were studying 'Corona' related effects when they researched into Bat Caves, along with peasant Chinese workers doing their own thing.
Researchers 'mostly' wore full PPE and both Researchers and Peasant Workers often got sick from Corona and the Labs were there to help for 'health' reasons.
This was 'documented' years before any Pandemic outbreak.

If Corona was a 'spark' - then the Fire was due mostly to a filthy polluted and disgustingly managed nation.
Not some crazed Commie group of Han Scientists purposely trying to design something more 'deadly'.

But hey, only Politics and Military 'created' this Virus for both are the biggest DISEASE on this planet atm.
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Australia needs it's foremost scientists on this case. Valkie and Grappler.
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