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Reply #90 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 5:16pm
 
They know where it came from. And having wrecked the world economy, killed several millions, not even a "sorry" from China.
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Reply #93 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 12:35am
 
The winter Olympic games in Beijing shouldn't go ahead because of the rodent disease outbreak in China named haemorrhagic fever, they say a vaccine for this disease will fix things.
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Reply #94 - Jan 2nd, 2022 at 12:30pm
 
2 years ago state media in China

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Police in Central China's Wuhan arrested 8 people spreading rumors about local outbreak of unidentifiable #pneumonia. Previous online posts said it was SARS. http://bit.ly/2STtOSf

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1212409846684884995



One of the first whistleblowers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang
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Reply #95 - Jan 6th, 2022 at 5:48pm
 
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NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements


October 21, 2021

A top NIH official admitted in a Wednesday letter that U.S. taxpayers funded gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan and revealed that EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing.

In the letter to Representative James Comer (R., Ky.), Lawrence A. Tabak of the NIH cites a “limited experiment” that was conducted to test if “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.” The laboratory mice infected with the modified bat virus “became sicker” than those infected with the unmodified bat virus.

The revelation vindicates Republican senator Rand Paul, who got into heated exchanges with National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director Anthony Fauci during his May and July testimonials before Congress over the gain-of-function question. At the second hearing, Paul accused Fauci of misleading Congress by denying that the U.S. had funded gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Gain-of-function research involves extracting viruses from animals and artificially engineering them in a laboratory to make them more transmissible or deadly to humans.

In keeping with Fauci’s refusal to use “gain-of-function,” Tabak avoids the term, though the work he described matches its commonplace definition precisely.

A previously unpublished EcoHealth grant proposal filed with NIAID, obtained by The Intercept, had already exposed that $599,000 of the total grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology was for research designed to make viruses more dangerous and/or infectious.

Dr. Richard Ebright, biosafety expert and professor of chemistry and chemical biology at Rutgers University, had previously rebutted Fauci’s claim that the NIH “has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology [WIV]” as “demonstrably false.”

Ebright told National Review that the NIH-financed work at the WIV “epitomizes” the definition of gain-of-function research, which deals with “enhanced potential pandemic pathogen (PPP)” or those pathogens “resulting from the enhancement of the transmissibility and/or virulence of a pathogen.”


In addition to his admission that gain-of-function research was being conducted with NIH money, Tabak also revealed that EcoHealth failed to comply with its reporting responsibilities under the grant. EcoHealth was required to submit to a “secondary review” in the event of certain developments that might increase the danger associated with the research. So, when Wuhan researchers successfully bound a natural bat coronavirus to a human AC2 receptor in mice, they were supposed to inform the NIH, but they didn’t.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nih-admits-to-funding-gain-of-function-resea...



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Re: Chinese scientists created this Corona virus
Reply #96 - Jan 6th, 2022 at 10:23pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 6th, 2022 at 5:48pm:
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NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements


October 21, 2021

A top NIH official admitted in a Wednesday letter that U.S. taxpayers funded gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan and revealed that EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing.

In the letter to Representative James Comer (R., Ky.), Lawrence A. Tabak of the NIH cites a “limited experiment” that was conducted to test if “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.” The laboratory mice infected with the modified bat virus “became sicker” than those infected with the unmodified bat virus.

The revelation vindicates Republican senator Rand Paul, who got into heated exchanges with National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director Anthony Fauci during his May and July testimonials before Congress over the gain-of-function question. At the second hearing, Paul accused Fauci of misleading Congress by denying that the U.S. had funded gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Gain-of-function research involves extracting viruses from animals and artificially engineering them in a laboratory to make them more transmissible or deadly to humans.

In keeping with Fauci’s refusal to use “gain-of-function,” Tabak avoids the term, though the work he described matches its commonplace definition precisely.

A previously unpublished EcoHealth grant proposal filed with NIAID, obtained by The Intercept, had already exposed that $599,000 of the total grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology was for research designed to make viruses more dangerous and/or infectious.

Dr. Richard Ebright, biosafety expert and professor of chemistry and chemical biology at Rutgers University, had previously rebutted Fauci’s claim that the NIH “has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology [WIV]” as “demonstrably false.”

Ebright told National Review that the NIH-financed work at the WIV “epitomizes” the definition of gain-of-function research, which deals with “enhanced potential pandemic pathogen (PPP)” or those pathogens “resulting from the enhancement of the transmissibility and/or virulence of a pathogen.”


In addition to his admission that gain-of-function research was being conducted with NIH money, Tabak also revealed that EcoHealth failed to comply with its reporting responsibilities under the grant. EcoHealth was required to submit to a “secondary review” in the event of certain developments that might increase the danger associated with the research. So, when Wuhan researchers successfully bound a natural bat coronavirus to a human AC2 receptor in mice, they were supposed to inform the NIH, but they didn’t.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nih-admits-to-funding-gain-of-function-resea...



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You know that there is not a single word in the article about the topic.

There is no known bat corona virus which could lead to Covid 19 development.

What you have is a smoking water pistol.


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Reply #97 - Jan 9th, 2022 at 11:44pm
 
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Reply #98 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 6:06am
 
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Reply #99 - Jan 10th, 2022 at 7:39am
 
issuevoter wrote on Dec 18th, 2021 at 5:16pm:
They know where it came from. And having wrecked the world economy, killed several millions, not even a "sorry" from China.

Sorry from China ? In your dreams mate.
However, we still trade with the bastards ignoring the ongoing dangers posed by their trade in ‘warm meat’ sourced from wild animals. There’s no need to prove or disprove virus potency was engineered in a Gov’t lab. On the other hand the practice of eating wild meat and, in the case of monkeys and Ebola in Africa, having sex with monkeys tells us it’s not only the Chinese who indulge in suicidal practices.
Our species reaps what it sows.

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Reply #100 - Feb 21st, 2022 at 5:41pm
 
Peter Daszak’s December 9 interview.

"You can manipulate coronaviruses in the lab pretty easily, it is the spike protein who drives a lot of what happens with the coronavirus zoonotic risk. You can get the sequence, you can build the protein.

Ralph Baric at UNC who did this, insert into a backbone of another virus and do some work in the lab. So, you can get more predictive when you find a sequence".

Was this work ongoing at WIV? Inserting other spikes into various backbones to develop a coronavirus vaccine?

around the 30:00 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdYDL_RK--w&t=1800s

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Reply #101 - Feb 21st, 2022 at 5:56pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 10th, 2022 at 7:39am:
issuevoter wrote on Dec 18th, 2021 at 5:16pm:
They know where it came from. And having wrecked the world economy, killed several millions, not even a "sorry" from China.

Sorry from China ? In your dreams mate.
However, we still trade with the bastards ignoring the ongoing dangers posed by their trade in ‘warm meat’ sourced from wild animals. There’s no need to prove or disprove virus potency was engineered in a Gov’t lab. On the other hand the practice of eating wild meat and, in the case of monkeys and Ebola in Africa, having sex with monkeys tells us it’s not only the Chinese who indulge in suicidal practices.
Our species reaps what it sows.




China - they are a different species.

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Reply #102 - Feb 21st, 2022 at 10:09pm
 
Blaming a Lab is a good excuse to move the spotlight away from 'environmental issues' of national 'filth' from China and the USA.

There was a Lab involved - it was there for years, set up by Researchers who went into the 'Bat Caves' both in full PPE and not so, just like the peasant workers in their thongs and shorts. The Corona they got infected with was not 'absolutely' deadly and the Lab was there to provide recovery for Researchers 'if' they contracted the Bat Poo virus and peasants. The act of taking the bats and poo to the Wet Markets and their even filthier environments is what turned the tide of the many Corona variants suddenly becoming 'Deadly as Hell' and boom! Pandemic.

I say this - because I watched a Doco years before the Pandemic of the Wuhan Caves, researchers, etc.
There was in no way - any 'Govt' initiative to mutate the virus in a lab as it was a private Research facility.
The killer variant would have 'evolved' by the natural occurance of 'Filth!' (wet markets) - like all Viruses do.
Just like the Pneumonic (Spanish) Pandemic evolved out of the trenches of rotting bodies mixed with chemical warfare under the festering sun.

Douglas Adams will be right though.
The worst Pandemic is yet to come - from a dirty phone call in India.

The added reason why 'Anti-this and thats', Conspiracists and Politicians and Military all undermine any efforts against a Pandemic, any Pandemic - is because 'THEY ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE' for the creation and spread of such filthy things.

If anything considered a disease in this day and age, its Politics.
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Reply #103 - Feb 21st, 2022 at 10:53pm
 
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Conclusion

The current SARS-CoV-2 pandemic has been, and continues to be, a public health catastrophe—the most serious in a century. Questions about the origins of COVID-19 are, at once, matters of legal, financial, and moral concern. For the moment, researchers can do no better than to hope for an inference to the best explanation; and, for the moment, the best explanation seems to be that the virus escaped from the WIV.

The WIV was the biggest transporter of viruses to Wuhan from all over Asia, including many SARS-like viruses from Laos and Yunnan. Phylogenetic analysis shows that the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak was perfectly localized in Wuhan, as all strains that have been found in other locations are descendants of the Wuhan strain. Had the virus been circulating undetected in other parts of China, virologists would have eventually noted those pre-Wuhan strains and their descendants in the phylogenetic tree. Even after sequencing over six million SARS-CoV-2 genomes, no evidence has been found of pre-Wuhan SARS-CoV-2.

Not only was the WIV the biggest reservoir of SARS-like viruses in Wuhan, if not the world, its scientists were engaged in creating novel SARS-like and MERS-like chimeras and potentially supercharging their transmissibility and pathogenicity. With these circumstances in mind, consider the following facts:


    Shi and Jiang were experts in spike protein cleavage and were working on a pan-coronavirus therapeutic to inhibit post-cleavage fusion of the virus with cell membranes.

    Jiang had previously created a novel furin cleavage site via a 12-nucleotide insertion, though not in a coronavirus.

    In a joint grant proposal the WIV and EcoHealth submitted to DARPA they suggested creating novel human-specific cleavage sites.

Taken together, these points make the 12-nucleotide insertion that has created a novel furin cleavage site in SARS-CoV-2—so uncharacteristic of SARS-like viruses—look extremely suspicious.

The behavior of the WIV and its scientists also raises any number of troubling questions. The viral strain RaTG13 is a case in point. First collected by the WIV in 2013, RaTG13 was sequenced in 2018, but not disclosed until after the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak. In their initial disclosure, the WIV failed to mention how or when they came to possess RaTG13, failed to indicate that it was previously called Ra4991, failed to cite their own 2016 paper first mentioning it, and seemed to imply that they only sequenced the sample after the outbreak. This does not seem like the behavior of scientists trying their utmost to establish how a Laotian or Yunnan virus came to cause an outbreak in Wuhan.

None of these points is in itself conclusive, but the circumstantial evidence is more suggestive of a lab leak than an act of nature.

There is an additional reason to take seriously the question at hand. It is prophylactic. Knowing at last that COVID-19 had its origins in the WIV would go some way toward enforcing a worldwide ban on gain-of-function research—research that is almost as useless as it is dangerous.

https://inference-review.com/article/thunder-out-of-china



Interesting article.

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Reply #104 - Feb 22nd, 2022 at 7:54am
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 21st, 2022 at 10:09pm:
) - like all Viruses do.
Just like the Pneumonic (Spanish)
Douglas Adams will be right though.
The worst Pandemic is yet to come - from a dirty phone call in India.
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