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Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller
Mar 26^th, 2020 at 7:52am

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There’s a lot of mud on Robert Mueller’s face these days. His mug is caked with it.

The former special counsel’s latest humiliation comes as the Justice Department moved on Monday to drop all charges against two Russian companies that Mueller accused of meddling in the 2016 presidential election. You can almost hear him muttering (or stammering as he did during his feeble and embarrassing congressional testimony), “oops… my bad.” Maybe he’d say that the dismissal is, “beyond my purview.”

Rod Rosenstein, the former deputy attorney general, also deserves some mud hurled in his direction. Who can forget his cocky news conference on February 16, 2018 when Rosenstein announced the indictments alleging that Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord Catering funded “troll farms” that peddled political disinformation during the campaign.

Rachel Maddow on MSNBC nearly wept with joy on air, even though the charges made no mention of any connection to, or conspiracy with, President Trump and his campaign. She could fudge that incidental detail… and did.

The FISA Court’s Feeble Rebuke of the FBI Means The Court Should be Abolished

To some lawyers, the case seemed fishy from the outset. All of the named individual defendants –more than a dozen Russians– were beyond U.S. jurisdiction. There would be nothing but empty chairs in the courtroom and no one to challenge the purported evidence. No real trial would ever occur. It was a guaranteed victory by forfeit. Or so Mueller and Rosenstein assumed.

But a funny thing happened on the way to securing their convictions “in absentia.” Concord hired a team of skilled American lawyers who demanded to examine the actual evidence. Prosecutors balked and stalled. A two-year legal battle ensued. Now, a mere two weeks before jury selection is set to begin, the DOJ has thrown in the towel by asking the judge to dismiss the case.

Prosecutors claim that the allegedly incriminating proof sought by the defense lawyers is simply too sensitive to reveal. That is, coughing up evidence so that Concord could properly defend itself “unreasonably risks the national security interests of the United States.”

Ah, yes… the old “national security” routine. The government loves to pull that one out of its bag of tricks when forced to produce hard evidence. Thus, the decision to torpedo their own case as the trial is nigh would seem to support the argument by one defense attorney who called the case a “made up” crime. Maybe the evidence was made up, too. We’ll likely never know.

In court documents announcing their surrender, prosecutors offered another inane excuse: none of the Russians involved in the “troll farm” would ever be punished anyway because… well… they live in Russia. Huh? Wasn’t that true when Mueller and Rosenstein brought their quixotic case two years ago?

Mueller and his team of partisans wasted 22 months and squandered more than $30 million dollars on an investigation of Russian “collusion” that never existed. They knew it the moment the probe began. It was all based largely on a fabricated anti-Trump “dossier” that the FBI had previously debunked (and concealed from the public) the very month Trump was sworn into office in January of 2017. The FBI’s investigation should have ended right then and there.

As explained in my book, Witch Hunt, there was never a factual or legal basis for Rosenstein to appoint Mueller as special counsel because the FBI had gathered no credible evidence that Trump or his campaign collaborated with Russia to win the presidency. “Collusion” constituted the greatest mass delusion in American political history.

What did Mueller manage to accomplish? A few people were convicted of minor “process crimes” or more serious financial crimes. Yet, none of them involved a criminal “collusion” conspiracy with Russia. And now the case against Russians themselves is poised to be tossed in a dumpster.

Frankly, that’s where Mueller’s entire asinine endeavor belongs.

Just another nail in the Coffin ⚰️ of the Russian Hoax...

Taxpayers should be furious!!

But no matter... it served its purpose of stoking the Russian interference bullshit...

Only the utterly dumb swallowed it...

No need to apologise to myself, master light and others...

I’m sure you’re embarrassed enough already...

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller Reply #1 - Mar 26^th, 2020 at 7:53am Flynn case will also be thrown out.. Roger Stone Case will be thrown out or pardoned..
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Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller
Reply #3 - Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:53am

" skilled American lawyers who demanded to examine the actual evidence. Prosecutors balked and stalled. A two-year legal battle ensued. Now, a mere two weeks before jury selection is set to begin, the DOJ has thrown in the towel by asking the judge to dismiss the case."

Trump controls prosecutors. The balking and stalling has the smell of Trump.

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Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller
Reply #4 - Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:58am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

Hard to judge this since as usual you never provide links.

No link because it is an opinion piece from Twitter....Nothing to support the arguments just fabrications and bullshit....IMO the Trump campaign knew about election interference and acted in consort with the Russians....That's my opinion which holds just as much credibility as the OP....It was also George Papadopoulos who told Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that sparked the investigation not the Steel dossier....Lies from the very start!!!

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Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller
Reply #5 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 2:58am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

Hard to judge this since as usual you never provide links.

No link because it is an opinion piece from Twitter....Nothing to support the arguments just fabrications and bullshit....IMO the Trump campaign knew about election interference and acted in consort with the Russians....That's my opinion which holds just as much credibility as the OP....It was also George Papadopoulos who told Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that sparked the investigation not the Steel dossier....Lies from the very start!!!

Roll Eyes

Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. It never was real.

The investigation by the FBI and 1/2 dozen other agencies was driven by the fake Steele "pee pee" dozier - released to the press which the FBI then used to investigate and establish the Special Council/Mueller investigation. The FBI knew that the dozier was fake from the start.

Phil all things are possible until proven not. Do you believe there are ET's walking among us? Probably not but there's no proof that there is not - so the presence of ET's is more valid an argument that what you present.

FFS!!!!

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Richdude Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8457 NC Gender:	Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller Reply #6 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 3:02am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 7:53am: Flynn case will also be thrown out.. Roger Stone Case will be thrown out or pardoned.. As they should be! US law agencies are acting like the Stasi of communist East Germany. Disgusting!
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Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller
Reply #7 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 5:59am

Richdude wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 2:58am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

Hard to judge this since as usual you never provide links.

No link because it is an opinion piece from Twitter....Nothing to support the arguments just fabrications and bullshit....IMO the Trump campaign knew about election interference and acted in consort with the Russians....That's my opinion which holds just as much credibility as the OP....It was also George Papadopoulos who told Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that sparked the investigation not the Steel dossier....Lies from the very start!!!

Roll Eyes

Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. It never was real.

The investigation by the FBI and 1/2 dozen other agencies was driven by the fake Steele "pee pee" dozier - released to the press which the FBI then used to investigate and establish the Special Council/Mueller investigation. The FBI knew that the dozier was fake from the start.

Phil all things are possible until proven not. Do you believe there are ET's walking among us? Probably not but there's no proof that there is not - so the presence of ET's is more valid an argument that what you present.

FFS!!!!

Rich, I'm curious. Why do you run away from threads where your own case is debunked, and then repeat the same claim again?

Glutton for punishment, are you?

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Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller
Reply #8 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 12:53pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 5:59am:

Richdude wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 2:58am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

Hard to judge this since as usual you never provide links.

No link because it is an opinion piece from Twitter....Nothing to support the arguments just fabrications and bullshit....IMO the Trump campaign knew about election interference and acted in consort with the Russians....That's my opinion which holds just as much credibility as the OP....It was also George Papadopoulos who told Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that sparked the investigation not the Steel dossier....Lies from the very start!!!

Roll Eyes

Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. It never was real.

The investigation by the FBI and 1/2 dozen other agencies was driven by the fake Steele "pee pee" dozier - released to the press which the FBI then used to investigate and establish the Special Council/Mueller investigation. The FBI knew that the dozier was fake from the start.

Phil all things are possible until proven not. Do you believe there are ET's walking among us? Probably not but there's no proof that there is not - so the presence of ET's is more valid an argument that what you present.

FFS!!!!

Rich, I'm curious. Why do you run away from threads where your own case is debunked, and then repeat the same claim again?

Glutton for punishment, are you?

Oh!

I'm sorry. I did not realize President Trump was found guilty of treason? (I'm being sarcastic!)

Where do you get your news from Karnal?

You and Phil must believe that ET's are more real than Trumps treason.

FFS! x2!

President Trump is right the "media is the enemy of the people". And the gullible fools and knaves swallow their BS without chewing it.

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Reply #10 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 3:15pm

This is largely a grouping of opinions with supposed statements of fact like:

"It was all based largely on a fabricated anti-Trump “dossier” that the FBI had previously debunked"

This is 100% untrue, in fact when the well predicated investigation started they didn't even know about this report.

Most of his opinion is clearly made up. yes the Muller team did use sensitive information that they would not reveal to the Russians and No they were never going to get these people out of Russia.

Its another nothing burger.

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Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller
Reply #11 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 3:24pm

Richdude wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 2:58am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

Hard to judge this since as usual you never provide links.

No link because it is an opinion piece from Twitter....Nothing to support the arguments just fabrications and bullshit....IMO the Trump campaign knew about election interference and acted in consort with the Russians....That's my opinion which holds just as much credibility as the OP....It was also George Papadopoulos who told Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that sparked the investigation not the Steel dossier....Lies from the very start!!!

Roll Eyes

Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. It never was real.

The investigation by the FBI and 1/2 dozen other agencies was driven by the fake Steele "pee pee" dozier - released to the press which the FBI then used to investigate and establish the Special Council/Mueller investigation. The FBI knew that the dozier was fake from the start.

Phil all things are possible until proven not. Do you believe there are ET's walking among us? Probably not but there's no proof that there is not - so the presence of ET's is more valid an argument that what you present.

FFS!!!!

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Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked.

There is a very high bar to collusion. There was a mountain of evidence on connections and meetings between the Trump team and the Russians. They missed the provable bar of collusion by what must have been a narrow margin and then about 5 Trump team members went to prison for lying to cover up what happened.

Ask yourself the question why did they need to lie what did they need to cover up and what may have the result been had they told the truth ?

The Trump collusion wasn't even close to being debunked - even with no collusion there was still a huge connection between the Russians and the Trump team related to the election.

Yes the Russians helped the Trump Team and yes the Trump team asked for the assistance. Being asked to believe that it was coincidence and not collusion is a stretch no matter how you look at it but that is the meaning of the finding.

Then there is the 10 instances of obstruction of justice still sitting there unanswered.

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Reply #12 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 5:01pm

Richdude wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 12:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 5:59am:

Richdude wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 2:58am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

Hard to judge this since as usual you never provide links.

No link because it is an opinion piece from Twitter....Nothing to support the arguments just fabrications and bullshit....IMO the Trump campaign knew about election interference and acted in consort with the Russians....That's my opinion which holds just as much credibility as the OP....It was also George Papadopoulos who told Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that sparked the investigation not the Steel dossier....Lies from the very start!!!

Roll Eyes

Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. It never was real.

The investigation by the FBI and 1/2 dozen other agencies was driven by the fake Steele "pee pee" dozier - released to the press which the FBI then used to investigate and establish the Special Council/Mueller investigation. The FBI knew that the dozier was fake from the start.

Phil all things are possible until proven not. Do you believe there are ET's walking among us? Probably not but there's no proof that there is not - so the presence of ET's is more valid an argument that what you present.

FFS!!!!

Rich, I'm curious. Why do you run away from threads where your own case is debunked, and then repeat the same claim again?

Glutton for punishment, are you?

Oh!

I'm sorry. I did not realize President Trump was found guilty of treason? (I'm being sarcastic!)

Where do you get your news from Karnal?

You and Phil must believe that ET's are more real than Trumps treason.

FFS! x2!

President Trump is right the "media is the enemy of the people". And the gullible fools and knaves swallow their BS without chewing it.

Sorry, are you saying the FBI didn't start an investigation after Alexander Downer's report to the Australian government?

Are you saying the Steele report is debunked?

Are you saying the Trump campaign did not conspire with the Russian government?

You'll have to provide your evidence for this I'm afraid, Rich. The Washington Post, NYT, Fox News, etc, have been pretty specific. You've seen all the FAKE NEWS evidence, haven't you, dear?

So I'm curious. What's holding you back from posting your sources? Why do you keep running off instead?

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Reply #13 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 5:07pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 3:24pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 2:58am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

Hard to judge this since as usual you never provide links.

No link because it is an opinion piece from Twitter....Nothing to support the arguments just fabrications and bullshit....IMO the Trump campaign knew about election interference and acted in consort with the Russians....That's my opinion which holds just as much credibility as the OP....It was also George Papadopoulos who told Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that sparked the investigation not the Steel dossier....Lies from the very start!!!

Roll Eyes

Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. It never was real.

The investigation by the FBI and 1/2 dozen other agencies was driven by the fake Steele "pee pee" dozier - released to the press which the FBI then used to investigate and establish the Special Council/Mueller investigation. The FBI knew that the dozier was fake from the start.

Phil all things are possible until proven not. Do you believe there are ET's walking among us? Probably not but there's no proof that there is not - so the presence of ET's is more valid an argument that what you present.

FFS!!!!

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Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked.

There is a very high bar to collusion. There was a mountain of evidence on connections and meetings between the Trump team and the Russians. They missed the provable bar of collusion by what must have been a narrow margin and then about 5 Trump team members went to prison for lying to cover up what happened.

Ask yourself the question why did they need to lie what did they need to cover up and what may have the result been had they told the truth ?

The Trump collusion wasn't even close to being debunked - even with no collusion there was still a huge connection between the Russians and the Trump team related to the election.

Yes the Russians helped the Trump Team and yes the Trump team asked for the assistance. Being asked to believe that is was coincidence and not collusion is a stretch no matter how you look at it but that is the meaning of the finding.

Then there is the 10 instances of obstruction of justice still sitting there unanswered.

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Re: Another Humiliating Defeat for Mueller
Reply #14 - Mar 30^th, 2020 at 8:00pm

Tap wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 5:07pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 3:24pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 2:58am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 26^th, 2020 at 8:47am:

Hard to judge this since as usual you never provide links.

No link because it is an opinion piece from Twitter....Nothing to support the arguments just fabrications and bullshit....IMO the Trump campaign knew about election interference and acted in consort with the Russians....That's my opinion which holds just as much credibility as the OP....It was also George Papadopoulos who told Alexander Downer the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton that sparked the investigation not the Steel dossier....Lies from the very start!!!

Roll Eyes

Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. It never was real.

The investigation by the FBI and 1/2 dozen other agencies was driven by the fake Steele "pee pee" dozier - released to the press which the FBI then used to investigate and establish the Special Council/Mueller investigation. The FBI knew that the dozier was fake from the start.

Phil all things are possible until proven not. Do you believe there are ET's walking among us? Probably not but there's no proof that there is not - so the presence of ET's is more valid an argument that what you present.

FFS!!!!

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Phil the Trump/Putin collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked.

There is a very high bar to collusion. There was a mountain of evidence on connections and meetings between the Trump team and the Russians. They missed the provable bar of collusion by what must have been a narrow margin and then about 5 Trump team members went to prison for lying to cover up what happened.

Ask yourself the question why did they need to lie what did they need to cover up and what may have the result been had they told the truth ?

The Trump collusion wasn't even close to being debunked - even with no collusion there was still a huge connection between the Russians and the Trump team related to the election.

Yes the Russians helped the Trump Team and yes the Trump team asked for the assistance. Being asked to believe that is was coincidence and not collusion is a stretch no matter how you look at it but that is the meaning of the finding.

Then there is the 10 instances of obstruction of justice still sitting there unanswered.

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Posting idiots laughing - well done, impressive. How tough is the 6th grade ?

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