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Will you get the tracking app?
Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:40pm

The Australian government is planning to launch an app in a matter of weeks that will trace every person who has been in contact with a mobile phone owner who has tested positive for coronavirus in the previous few weeks, in a bid to automate coronavirus contact tracing, and allow the easing of restrictions.

The Singapore version has many negative reviews on the app store, with users complaining about being forced to keep the app open in order for it to function.

That would not only be inconvenient for people travelling around with their phone, but would drain the battery faster.

The prime minister has said consent would be key to the app, indicating it would not be mandatory, and people would share information through the app only if they consented to it.

But on Friday he muddied the waters somewhat, indicating he would not entirely rule out making it mandatory.

“My preference is not to do that, my preference is to give Australians the go of getting it right ... I don’t want to be drawn on that [making it mandatory], I want to give Australians the opportunity to get it right,” he told Triple M. “That is my objective, that is my Plan A and I really want Plan A to work.”

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16142 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Will you get the tracking app? Reply #1 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:48pm Won't be long now We will all have to wear yellow stars on our shirts.
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Reply #2 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:54pm

It'll all be over by the time that app comes out, and they won't get it right, if they can't get their govt sites right, how are they going to get anything else right?

Not everyone has mobile reception and have to rely on govt sites but they haven't had anywhere near the information that was needed for us bushies to be well informed about accurate locations of infected people

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138171 Gender:	Re: Will you get the tracking app? Reply #3 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:59pm Valkie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:48pm: Won't be long now We will all have to wear yellow stars on our shirts. Well, YOU voted for Scotty from Marketing. Don't come crying to me now.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40761 Gender:	Re: Will you get the tracking app? Reply #4 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:11pm Yes, I will.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138171 Gender:	Re: Will you get the tracking app? Reply #5 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:28pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:11pm: Yes, I will. And the microchip?
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21651 ACT Gender:	Re: Will you get the tracking app? Reply #6 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:33pm I have nothing to hide so I might get it ! The problem may be my missus who phone's battery is usually flat!
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Re: Will you get the tracking app?
Reply #7 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:47pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

I have nothing to hide so I might get it !

I've always liked that line... 'Nothing to hide'...

So, no issues with the app identifying when you're speeding?

No worries about getting a slew of traffic tickets for 'amber light' infringements, or (god forbid) travelling too long on a freeway in the outer lane...

And if you think 'they'll never do that!'... Never underestimate the human instinct for control over others' behaviour.

Even the Singaporeans didn't like the idea of it.

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Reply #8 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:49pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:47pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

I have nothing to hide so I might get it !

I've always liked that line... 'Nothing to hide'...

So, no issues with the app identifying when you're speeding?

No worries about getting a slew of traffic tickets for 'amber light' infringements, or (god forbid) travelling too long on a freeway in the outer lane...

And if you think 'they'll never do that!'... Never underestimate the human instinct for control over others' behaviour.

Even the Singaporeans didn't like the idea of it.

Get a life moron!

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Reply #9 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:50pm

My mobile phone is only turned on when I have to make the occasional call. I might (if I remember) turn it on briefly once a day to see if I have any messages.

On the rare occasions that it is turned on it isn't connected to the Internet and has GPS tracking, etc. turned off in settings.

And, if anyone I don't know asks.... I don't have a mobile phone.

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Reply #10 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:53pm

No I will not.

If they force it on people then I will not have a phone anymore. I will cancel my account effective immediately upon their demand.
Reconnect the home phone and continue with life the old school way.
I only have a phone for work purposes anyway.

They track us now using metadata. Snowden told us that years ago. Even showed you what to remove from the phone so they couldnt track you. This is just a stunt to get your permission to do what they already are doing illegally.
I have nothing to hide but I do not trust them at all and I will not grant them permission to track me.
I don't have a lot of apps on my phone due to all the permissions you have to grant so they can get stuffed.

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Reply #11 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 6:13pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:49pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:47pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

I have nothing to hide so I might get it !

I've always liked that line... 'Nothing to hide'...

So, no issues with the app identifying when you're speeding?

No worries about getting a slew of traffic tickets for 'amber light' infringements, or (god forbid) travelling too long on a freeway in the outer lane...

And if you think 'they'll never do that!'... Never underestimate the human instinct for control over others' behaviour.

Even the Singaporeans didn't like the idea of it.

Get a life moron!

Angry

Or just read up on yours!

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Reply #12 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 6:15pm

Carl D wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:50pm:

My mobile phone is only turned on when I have to make the occasional call. I might (if I remember) turn it on briefly once a day to see if I have any messages.

On the rare occasions that it is turned on it isn't connected to the Internet and has GPS tracking, etc. turned off in settings.

And, if anyone I don't know asks.... I don't have a mobile phone.

You should listen to Edward Snowden talk about what having your phone 'off' really means.... Unless you've got a phone from the 90s (like some CIA operatives) where you can remove the battery!

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Reply #13 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 6:29pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:47pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

I have nothing to hide so I might get it !

I've always liked that line... 'Nothing to hide'...

So, no issues with the app identifying when you're speeding?

No worries about getting a slew of traffic tickets for 'amber light' infringements, or (god forbid) travelling too long on a freeway in the outer lane...

And if you think 'they'll never do that!'... Never underestimate the human instinct for control over others' behaviour.

Even the Singaporeans didn't like the idea of it.

Oh look North.
Everyone makes traffic infringements to some degree, even people who get paid to drive and even Police themselves.

If you want to be banged a fine every time you make one, via an App of absolutism. 'Fine'. But If I make 1 fine out of 5 mistakes for the year - good for me. But if you want your 5 fines out of your 5 mistakes for the year - go right ahead.

Big Brother thrives upon people like yourself.
In a past life you paid your weekly tribute to the Temple Gods didn't you.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20654 Gordon Gender:	Re: Will you get the tracking app? Reply #14 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 6:35pm I'll download it just in case I'm asymptomatically positive I'd like for my contacts to be traced, and vica versa. If there's good legislation around it where the info can never be used for the prosecution of any crime or offense and the data is flushed when this health emergency ends, all gud.
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