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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #75 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:40pm
 
A friend of mine has a northern Italian friend (ex Italian army) who emigrated years ago...

When he was talking about what Italy was going through he appeared completely unphased...

The conversation went like 'Gee, things are bad in your home region'...

'Yea, yea I know it's a bad... But I'm building a deck witha ma spare time, ya wanna see it'...

'Aren't you worried about what's going on'

'Yea, yea, I'm worried... its a bad... But whaddam I gonna do about that, ah? Ya wanna me to go there and getta the thing too?... this a deck, man you getta whole view over tha bay'
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #76 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 8:54pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.


how much is to much to save your kids horse boy?


What does that have to do with the topic?




everything.

If he's claiming there is a price on life, i want to know what the price is on his kids life

or does the rule only apply to those you don't know?


The adults are talking about a societal response not within a family, now back to the card table with the fairy bread ya dunce.


No one asked you ya farkwit.

The question was directed to horseboy. Now run along and go find some more toilet paper to hoard.


Are you hall monitor in Aussie's absence, telling people which posts they may and may not reply to?

Your question is puerile, but what we expect from a dullard like you.

Now back to the kids table.



you can respond, you just can't answer for horse boy

surely even that's not beyond even your limited capabilities of understanding?
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #77 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 8:55pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:37pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
Quote:
Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.


how much is to much to save your kids horse boy?


What does that have to do with the topic?




everything.

If he's claiming there is a price on life, i want to know what the price is on his kids life

or does the rule only apply to those you don't know?


What's interesting is that you think you can prove a point with this.


Don't pretend you can work out what I'm thinking, you struggle enough working out what you are thinking.
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #78 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 8:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
Quote:
Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.


how much is to much to save your kids horse boy?


What does that have to do with the topic?




everything.

If he's claiming there is a price on life, i want to know what the price is on his kids life

or does the rule only apply to those you don't know?


The adults are talking about a societal response not within a family, now back to the card table with the fairy bread ya dunce.


No one asked you ya farkwit.

The question was directed to horseboy. Now run along and go find some more toilet paper to hoard.


Are you hall monitor in Aussie's absence, telling people which posts they may and may not reply to?

Your question is puerile, but what we expect from a dullard like you.

Now back to the kids table.



you can respond, you just can't answer for horse boy

surely even that's not beyond even your limited capabilities of understanding?


Your question is not worth answering.
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Reply #79 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:21pm
 


So if you cant put a price on life
How do you reconcile the human life wasted by abortions
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #80 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:36pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 8:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
Quote:
Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.


how much is to much to save your kids horse boy?


What does that have to do with the topic?




everything.

If he's claiming there is a price on life, i want to know what the price is on his kids life

or does the rule only apply to those you don't know?


The adults are talking about a societal response not within a family, now back to the card table with the fairy bread ya dunce.


No one asked you ya farkwit.

The question was directed to horseboy. Now run along and go find some more toilet paper to hoard.


Are you hall monitor in Aussie's absence, telling people which posts they may and may not reply to?

Your question is puerile, but what we expect from a dullard like you.

Now back to the kids table.



you can respond, you just can't answer for horse boy

surely even that's not beyond even your limited capabilities of understanding?


Your question is not worth answering.

These 3 seem to have their monthly cycles corresponding. Theyve been all over the forum picking fights and looking for attention  today.
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #81 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:45pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:36pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 8:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
Quote:
Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.


how much is to much to save your kids horse boy?


What does that have to do with the topic?




everything.

If he's claiming there is a price on life, i want to know what the price is on his kids life

or does the rule only apply to those you don't know?


The adults are talking about a societal response not within a family, now back to the card table with the fairy bread ya dunce.


No one asked you ya farkwit.

The question was directed to horseboy. Now run along and go find some more toilet paper to hoard.


Are you hall monitor in Aussie's absence, telling people which posts they may and may not reply to?

Your question is puerile, but what we expect from a dullard like you.

Now back to the kids table.



you can respond, you just can't answer for horse boy

surely even that's not beyond even your limited capabilities of understanding?


Your question is not worth answering.

These 3 seem to have their monthly cycles corresponding. Theyve been all over the forum picking fights and looking for attention  today.


I wonder why Smith wants to drag Aquas kids into the discussion?
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #82 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 10:11pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 4:30pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 4:25pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 4:17pm:
North, I meant the opposite where there is no price too great.


Ahh, OK... As you were!

Yep... No one gets out alive... So live well while you can...


I can think of hundreds od examples where risk at a lower price is tolerated when it could be eliminated with $ but I cant think of one which goes the othet way

Anyone?


Risk at the expense of a higher cost to life... Is that what you mean?
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #83 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 10:32pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:45pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:36pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 9:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 8:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 6:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
Quote:
Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.


how much is to much to save your kids horse boy?


What does that have to do with the topic?




everything.

If he's claiming there is a price on life, i want to know what the price is on his kids life

or does the rule only apply to those you don't know?


The adults are talking about a societal response not within a family, now back to the card table with the fairy bread ya dunce.


No one asked you ya farkwit.

The question was directed to horseboy. Now run along and go find some more toilet paper to hoard.


Are you hall monitor in Aussie's absence, telling people which posts they may and may not reply to?

Your question is puerile, but what we expect from a dullard like you.

Now back to the kids table.



you can respond, you just can't answer for horse boy

surely even that's not beyond even your limited capabilities of understanding?


Your question is not worth answering.

These 3 seem to have their monthly cycles corresponding. Theyve been all over the forum picking fights and looking for attention  today.


I wonder why Smith wants to drag Aquas kids into the discussion?
Thats the general MO of that lot, no moral or ethical compass. North thinks its Autism, I dont. These types of people always put on a facade about being all for social justice and equal rights but disagree with them on any subject and the mask falls off. They must be right and thats it, they will use any means to try and convince themselves they are superior to the person who disagrees with them. Their egos depend on it and projection is part of their game.  Logic or facts dont come into it when they enter their episodes. Look at John  in the other thread, arguing for hours about something he could have found out about with a simple google, but he wont do it, it might prove him wrong and he couldnt have that. Pecca and Mothra display the same type of narcissistic histrionic personality types, thats why they tend to support each other, even when one blatantly lies the others will support each other.
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #84 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 10:48pm
 
Nom de Plume wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 4:30pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 4:25pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 4:17pm:
North, I meant the opposite where there is no price too great.


Ahh, OK... As you were!

Yep... No one gets out alive... So live well while you can...


I can think of hundreds od examples where risk at a lower price is tolerated when it could be eliminated with $ but I cant think of one which goes the othet way

Anyone?


Risk at the expense of a higher cost to life... Is that what you mean?


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Reply #85 - Apr 19th, 2020 at 11:26pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 10:32pm:
Thats the general MO of that lot, no moral or ethical compass. North thinks its Autism, I dont. These types of people always put on a facade about being all for social justice and equal rights but disagree with them on any subject and the mask falls off. They must be right and thats it, they will use any means to try and convince themselves they are superior to the person who disagrees with them. Their egos depend on it and projection is part of their game.  Logic or facts dont come into it when they enter their episodes. Look at John  in the other thread, arguing for hours about something he could have found out about with a simple google, but he wont do it, it might prove him wrong and he couldnt have that. Pecca and Mothra display the same type of narcissistic histrionic personality types, thats why they tend to support each other, even when one blatantly lies the others will support each other.

I wouldn't say all those here who argue for the sake of it are on the autistic spectrum... I just noted certain traits of autism I'm used to in one poster (and then the admitting of having a child on the spectrum reinforced it for me)...

For others... Maybe autism... I can't say...

But this kind of phenomenon has been reported in every social media platform... I guess it's something like road-rage, when you're 'protected' by steel and moving, the mechanism that inhibits the amygdala is sometimes suspended... Until the road-rager stops at the lights and finds out the car they flipped the bird to pulls up next to them and is full of 200KG gangsters! Then the fear kicks in!

On a forum or SM platform... There's no chance of 'being caught at the lights', so the inhibiting mechanisms don't kick in and the 'argument' can run for pages, days, weeks or years...

We're only a few genes away from chimpanzees and only a few more from baboons... And if you want to watch those nasty little bastards and what they do to each other, check out some of Robert Sapolsky's clips from his years studying them...
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Reply #86 - Apr 20th, 2020 at 12:01am
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 11:26pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 10:32pm:
Thats the general MO of that lot, no moral or ethical compass. North thinks its Autism, I dont. These types of people always put on a facade about being all for social justice and equal rights but disagree with them on any subject and the mask falls off. They must be right and thats it, they will use any means to try and convince themselves they are superior to the person who disagrees with them. Their egos depend on it and projection is part of their game.  Logic or facts dont come into it when they enter their episodes. Look at John  in the other thread, arguing for hours about something he could have found out about with a simple google, but he wont do it, it might prove him wrong and he couldnt have that. Pecca and Mothra display the same type of narcissistic histrionic personality types, thats why they tend to support each other, even when one blatantly lies the others will support each other.

I wouldn't say all those here who argue for the sake of it are on the autistic spectrum... I just noted certain traits of autism I'm used to in one poster (and then the admitting of having a child on the spectrum reinforced it for me)...

For others... Maybe autism... I can't say...

But this kind of phenomenon has been reported in every social media platform... I guess it's something like road-rage, when you're 'protected' by steel and moving, the mechanism that inhibits the amygdala is sometimes suspended... Until the road-rager stops at the lights and finds out the car they flipped the bird to pulls up next to them and is full of 200KG gangsters! Then the fear kicks in!

On a forum or SM platform... There's no chance of 'being caught at the lights', so the inhibiting mechanisms don't kick in and the 'argument' can run for pages, days, weeks or years...

We're only a few genes away from chimpanzees and only a few more from baboons... And if you want to watch those nasty little bastards and what they do to each other, check out some of Robert Sapolsky's clips from his years studying them...
True, monkeys with big brains is what we are. Desmond Morris wrote a trilogy of books which I read some years ago, the Naked Ape series about the behavioural traits we share with apes. And what baboons do to each other, I agree is nasty but in my experience humans can and do much worse. Not so long ago in the course of my employment I interviewed a person who had done unspeakable things to his family before killing them for no apparent reason, I tried to put a label on it but could not and there is no comparison I could draw to baboons or any other animal. While we may be monkeys we are definitely a unique type of monkey.
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Reply #87 - Apr 20th, 2020 at 6:18am
 
A couple of interesting posts there rhino and North

From my perspective and I try to look at things based on evolution
Having core confidence is really important

A man who has core confidence is more attractive to women
And a woman needs a fairly high degree of core confidence to bring a child into the world

now does it really matter if that core confidence is based 100-m anchored into bedrock

Or can people cheat and achieve this core confidence through a mind hack

again a lot of this probably place back into an evolutionary desire not to waste precious time
And so we are always trying to get to the goal line
Without doing the proper work

This is true for all sides

Greta could have gone and done a PhD in environmental science
And really understood electricity generation and electrical engineering
And then she could have spoken with core confidence
Or she can just magically manifest core confidence
It's lazier and it's probably cheating but it's still works in terms of brain chemicals

Trump could have hit the books and studied virology at night
He could have been up till 2 in the morning reading scientific journals

Or he can just jump in front of a camera and act super confident
And the fact that he is not sleep-deprived from all that study
Probably works in his favour

I think the lefty intellectual elite
As rhino said
They don't really want to do the hard intellectual work
That say even doing a Google search would involve
Because they have confidence in their PC ideology
And if they shook that
Then that's a hell of a lot of work that they have to do


Then there are the people who gain core confidence from a religious belief
I saw a video of a woman who was not socially distancing in America
who said she had nothing to fear as she was bathed in jesus' blood

I'm sure that the same phenomenon of confidence would be protecting many members of ISIS.

Most people fall into the above categories
Failure is the norm
Garbage is the default

A rare group of people transcend the paradigm

There are a few truly great people out there

People have really did bounce out of bed
And really do get the confidence hormones
The right way

I would put people like Bill gates and Steve Jobs in that category
People who really had to grind it out to get to the top
It's interesting that they have quite large collections of haters Grin
There is a guy called Jared diamond who is worth looking into
I think from memory as well as being a best-selling author
On the civil war
On evolution
On the industrial Revolution
He also has a PhD in Latin
Is a world expert on South American pottery
Does pilgrimages to the New Guinea Highlands to study rare birds
Is the head of the geography department at Harvard university
And is the world's leading expert on gallbladder physiology

If people really bounce out of bed and really push themselves it's amazing what they can achieve

If people bounce out of bed with no plan
It's amazing how many days weeks months and years
They can spend in a fog of pure coping mentality
And how they can get to their old age
Having never achieved a single one of their dreams
And then they can become frightened and pathologicly scared of their own mortality
I think that's probably the catastrophe most people may face
Because they won't apply the evolutionary blowtorch to their own back side
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Re: You Cant Put a Price on a Human Life.
Reply #88 - Apr 20th, 2020 at 6:54am
 
rhino wrote on Apr 20th, 2020 at 12:01am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 11:26pm:
rhino wrote on Apr 19th, 2020 at 10:32pm:
Thats the general MO of that lot, no moral or ethical compass. North thinks its Autism, I dont. These types of people always put on a facade about being all for social justice and equal rights but disagree with them on any subject and the mask falls off. They must be right and thats it, they will use any means to try and convince themselves they are superior to the person who disagrees with them. Their egos depend on it and projection is part of their game.  Logic or facts dont come into it when they enter their episodes. Look at John  in the other thread, arguing for hours about something he could have found out about with a simple google, but he wont do it, it might prove him wrong and he couldnt have that. Pecca and Mothra display the same type of narcissistic histrionic personality types, thats why they tend to support each other, even when one blatantly lies the others will support each other.

I wouldn't say all those here who argue for the sake of it are on the autistic spectrum... I just noted certain traits of autism I'm used to in one poster (and then the admitting of having a child on the spectrum reinforced it for me)...

For others... Maybe autism... I can't say...

But this kind of phenomenon has been reported in every social media platform... I guess it's something like road-rage, when you're 'protected' by steel and moving, the mechanism that inhibits the amygdala is sometimes suspended... Until the road-rager stops at the lights and finds out the car they flipped the bird to pulls up next to them and is full of 200KG gangsters! Then the fear kicks in!

On a forum or SM platform... There's no chance of 'being caught at the lights', so the inhibiting mechanisms don't kick in and the 'argument' can run for pages, days, weeks or years...

We're only a few genes away from chimpanzees and only a few more from baboons... And if you want to watch those nasty little bastards and what they do to each other, check out some of Robert Sapolsky's clips from his years studying them...
True, monkeys with big brains is what we are. Desmond Morris wrote a trilogy of books which I read some years ago, the Naked Ape series about the behavioural traits we share with apes. And what baboons do to each other, I agree is nasty but in my experience humans can and do much worse. Not so long ago in the course of my employment I interviewed a person who had done unspeakable things to his family before killing them for no apparent reason, I tried to put a label on it but could not and there is no comparison I could draw to baboons or any other animal. While we may be monkeys we are definitely a unique type of monkey.

If you watch Sapolsky's clips, you'll find that baboons will kill each other and are capable of planning it and conspiring with each other to target a single baboon for death... Jane Goodall recognised the same trait in Chimpanzees including the capacity for 'war' with other troops of chimpanzees...

His experience with baboons has made Sapolsky pretty pessimistic about human nature (he's a neurological scientist) and has come to the conclusion that animal behaviour, including human, is all about neurochemicals and neurological wiring... No free will and often limited capacity of the prefrontal cortex to inhibit mammalian and reptilian behaviour, exacerbated by the fact that it takes 25 years for the prefrontal cortex to completely develop and, in that time, so many things can go wrong with its development.

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Reply #89 - Apr 20th, 2020 at 7:24am
 
This is true north but it is also true
That the leader of a chimpanzee troop usually has very good social connections within the troop
He looks after the females and he's nice to the children

If it was all about being the strongest and belting the subordinate chimps
then two or three subordinate chimps would just gang up on the tyrant and knock him off

Wolves also will fight and dominate each other
But when the inferior wolf submits the alpha wolf invite him back into the pack
After all the alpha wolf is going to need him when they co-operate in a hunt

So cooperation
Care of females
Care of infants
Care of subordinates

Is also hard wired

But only within the pack
It's why we are tribal to our core

Extending that to the whole of humanity is going to require people to transcend their inner chimp
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