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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #375 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:39pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:33am:

freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2020 at 9:29pm:

That is the "alleged code". Why did you qualify it Gandalf?

Because its BS. Thought that would be obvious.

What is BS? And why are you incapable of giving a straight answer?

Does Islam compel you to automatically assume the best in your fellow Muslims?

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #376 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:46pm

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:33am:

freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2020 at 9:29pm:

That is the "alleged code". Why did you qualify it Gandalf?

Because its BS. Thought that would be obvious.

What is BS? And why are you incapable of giving a straight answer?

Does Islam compel you to automatically assume the best in your fellow Muslims?

Yes, G, why are you incapable of providing an answer?

G won't say, FD. Why do you think it is?

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #377 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:48pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:46pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:33am:

freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2020 at 9:29pm:

That is the "alleged code". Why did you qualify it Gandalf?

Because its BS. Thought that would be obvious.

What is BS? And why are you incapable of giving a straight answer?

Does Islam compel you to automatically assume the best in your fellow Muslims?

Yes, G, why are you incapable of providing an answer?

G won't say, FD. Why do you think it is?

I blame Islam. You?

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #378 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:52pm

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:46pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:33am:

freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2020 at 9:29pm:

That is the "alleged code". Why did you qualify it Gandalf?

Because its BS. Thought that would be obvious.

What is BS? And why are you incapable of giving a straight answer?

Does Islam compel you to automatically assume the best in your fellow Muslims?

Yes, G, why are you incapable of providing an answer?

G won't say, FD. Why do you think it is?

I blame Islam. You?

Could be, FD, could be.

Does Freeeedom compel you to assume the best in your fellow white people everywhere?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96971	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #379 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:04pm FD? You're still here. Don't want to say?
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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #380 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:06pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 4:15pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 3:27pm:

Don't try to be sly and shifty. Don't try this lazy, stupid "100% of Muslims must be assumed to be [your crappy victim BS here].

It is perfectly logical, all you have to do is accept facts: NOT 100% of Muslims are law-abiding, NOT 100% of Muslims reject terrorism and jihad against non-Muslims and not all of these are on the radar. This is how most money laundering happens. The Muslims have the additional cover of often operating outside the highly regulated and monitored Western banking system (which is still breaches).

Not even you can assure the world that 100% of Muslims involved in Muslims charities of any kind reject jihad and refuse to funnel funds to jihadi organisations like the PA, Hamas, and others, directly or indirectly. It would be like saying that there is no Mafia in America or Australia and all the Italians are completely transformed once they step outside Italy. Or that Muslim jihadis here and overseas have nuffin' to do wiv other Muslims in Australia or anywhere else.Ludicrous.i

Thats just a convoluted way of saying there is no evidence halal fees go to terrorists.

You and FD certainly have your own unique ways of waffling your way endlessly to miss the actual point.

It is a straightforward way of saying two thing, slippery old Italo/Muslim debater:

1. There is NO evidence that charity money, including halal certification money, is PREVENTED from reaching jihadi Muslims.

2. There is EVERY evidence that charity money raised by Muslims, one way or another, IS sent to terrorists like PA, Hamas and other jihadi terrorist organisations.

Muslims are not insulated from jihad - therefore Muslim charities are not insulated from Muslim jihad. You are ALL in it together, jihad.

Tell me you are not a jihadi. Go on.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96971	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #381 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:26pm FD? You've gone.
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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #382 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 1:58pm

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

why are you incapable of giving a straight answer?

Ah now there's a question.

Perhaps I should try it.

ahem... FD, why are you incapable... on second thoughts, never mind, I'm pretty sure it will just result in another 15 pages of incomprehensible waffle.

Tell you what FD, how about we hold the pause button on this movie called "FD's one thousand fun ways to endlessly deflect", and you go back and read the entire thread again, and note down the umpteen number of questions you dodged and endlessly deflected on, and get back to me on them yes?

Or, you know, you can continue your delightful game of "pretend I don't understand English like a grinning idiot". Its up to you. If its the latter though, I must politely decline in partaking.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #383 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 2:14pm

Frank wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:06pm:

1. There is NO evidence that charity money, including halal certification money, is PREVENTED from reaching jihadi Muslims.

2. There is EVERY evidence that charity money raised by Muslims, one way or another, IS sent to terrorists like PA, Hamas and other jihadi terrorist organisations.

Muslims are not insulated from jihad - therefore Muslim charities are not insulated from Muslim jihad. You are ALL in it together, jihad.

Tell me you are not a jihadi. Go on.

Help me out here Frank.

1. It is true that jihadi terrorist organisations get donations from some muslims, who probably pass it off as "charity".
2, Lets, for arguments sake, accept your claim that there are no checks in place to prevent any and all muslim charity money from reaching terrorists.

How do you go from those two points to:

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THEREFORE:
Some unknown proportion of halal certification, as of muslim charity funds, IS funding terrorism

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #384 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 3:21pm

Cut clitorises out of little girls? Yes.

Rape little girls with forced child marriages?    Yes.

Are the worlds' greatest terrorist threat?    Yes.

Kill their kids with trauma from their wars famine and refugee flight?    Yes.

Kill their women folk with honour killings? Yes.

Are the globes almost insurmountable refugee problem? Yes.

Are waging genocide against the Christians in Africa? Yes.

Use stealth and deceit to fund terrorism? Yes.

Carry out terrorist attacks against the non believers in non muslim countries? Yes.

Use some halal fees to fund terrorism? Absolutely not, never ever will halal funding go towards terrorism, there is no way muslims will ever use halal fees for terrorism!!!!

And a five six seven eight:

pigs are going to fly tomorrow

cows are gunna jump over the moon

dishes will run away with all the spoons

the sun will rise in the west

cos allah knows best

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42760	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #385 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 4:11pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Islamophobia writ large again? Tsk, tsk, Moses.
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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #386 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 4:28pm

picturing moses absurdly singing that song like a raving idiot seems rather appropriate.

Like the proverbial guy who covers his ears and sings at the top of his voice "la la la I'm not listening!!" - to shield him from stuff he doesn't want to hear. - in this case his fellow ideologues endlessly deflecting, making kindergarten-level logical fallacies, pretending they don't understand English, and generally making fools of themselves.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #387 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 5:40pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 18^th, 2020 at 4:28pm:

picturing moses absurdly singing that song like a raving idiot seems rather appropriate.

Like the proverbial guy who covers his ears and sings at the top of his voice "la la la I'm not listening!!" - to shield him from stuff he doesn't want to hear. - in this case his fellow ideologues endlessly deflecting, making kindergarten-level logical fallacies, pretending they don't understand English, and generally making fools of themselves.

He goes to his "safe place"...

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #388 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 6:25pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 18^th, 2020 at 1:58pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:39pm:

why are you incapable of giving a straight answer?

Ah now there's a question.

Perhaps I should try it.

ahem... FD, why are you incapable... on second thoughts, never mind, I'm pretty sure it will just result in another 15 pages of incomprehensible waffle.

Tell you what FD, how about we hold the pause button on this movie called "FD's one thousand fun ways to endlessly deflect", and you go back and read the entire thread again, and note down the umpteen number of questions you dodged and endlessly deflected on, and get back to me on them yes?

Or, you know, you can continue your delightful game of "pretend I don't understand English like a grinning idiot". Its up to you. If its the latter though, I must politely decline in partaking.

Hey Gandalf, does Islam compel you to automatically assume the best of your fellow Muslims?

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Reply #389 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 8:28pm

reply# 314. Yet you still asked me again twice since. Do you kinda get why I stop bothering with your idiotic questions?

Not only did the most direct answer possible not stop you, nor did pointing out the logical fallacy of that idiotic question by pointing out that my stance is not even about muslims (reply# 294). But of course you simply continue on merrily with your "I'll simply ignore the answer and repeat the question like a grinning idiot" routine.

You only ask it to deflect via ad-hom. Fact. But it looks even more stupid when you keep doing it even after getting a direct answer.

Shall we start to review all the questions you used that idiotic non-question to deflect from? For simple ease of reference, we can skip straight to the two questions you ignored and deflected from in reply# 314. I'll generously ignore all the other questions I patiently kept asking you a thousand times. - For now

Or are you going to ask the same inane question again after I gave you an answer, then pointed it out to you again - like you're pretending you don't understand English?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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