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Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:05pm
 



A RIVER ON FIRE! Gas explodes from Australian river near fracking site.


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A RIVER ON FIRE! Gas explodes from Australian river near fracking site. I was shocked by force of the explosion when I tested whether gas boiling through the Condamine River, Qld was flammable. So much gas is bubbling through the river that it held a huge flame.

There has been concern that fracking and extraction of coal seam gas could cause gas to migrate through the rock. Not only is it polluting the river and air, but methane is an extremely potent heat trapping gas. Fugitive emissions from the unconventional gas industry could be a major contributor to climate change and make gas as dirty as burning coal.

Gas first started bubbling though the river shortly after the coal seam gas industry took off in the Chinchilla area.  Since then the volume of gas bubbling through the river has massively increased and has spread along the river.

You can see stakes in the river bank were the Queensland Government has marked each gas seep.  You can also see pipework near the river where Origin Energy has installed for monitoring the gas bubbling through the river.
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Reply #1 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:10pm
 
You can blame that Matt Caravan c..t for this. Fricken pinhead he is Sad
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Reply #2 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:15pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:10pm:
You can blame that Matt Caravan c..t for this. Fricken pinhead he is Sad



And they said that fracking was OK.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:31pm
 
"Barrett said there were naturally occurring fissures in the rock in that part of the Darling Downs where, owing to the coal beds being less than 100m from the surface, methane had been known to leak out. At least four of those fissures are in a 3km stretch of the Condamine river, including Pumphole.

“The presence of the industry there has not caused that crack to occur or that fault to occur, it’s been there for aeons,” Barrett told Guardian Australia. “The gas has probably been coming to the surface there for as long as people have been there.”

Barrett said the amount of gas seeping in that area had markedly increased in the past 12 months, a trend he said could be caused by a shift in sediment from the river bed, which would mean the gas was less dispersed, or could be the result of water that rushed into the alluvial aquifer during the 2011 Queensland floods slowly depleting, which would release the pressure and allow more methane to come to the surface.

Barrett said evidence from the CSIRO’s study suggested it was “unlikely” the increased gas seepage was caused by the coal seam gas industry."

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/apr/24/river-on-fire-in-greens-mps-...

From the garudian so it must be true.

""Tho discovery of a small oil seep between Toowoomba' Bnd Helidon might or migbt not turn out to be of commercial importance," «aid Dr. U. X. Jensen. "The advice of Mr. Ball (Government Geologist) to the syndicate to hasten slowly and to closely study the locality of the seep before getting super-optimistic and forming companies, is sound and safe advice."

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/98127949?searchTerm=gas%20seep&search...

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Reply #4 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:40pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:10pm:
You can blame that Matt Caravan c..t for this. Fricken pinhead he is Sad


Matt Canavan first elected to parliament 2014

"A video recently posted online by a NSW Greens MP who opposes natural gas production claims that gas industry operations have caused bubbling in south-west Queensland’s Condamine River.

This accusation is not supported by scientific or historical evidence.  Bubbling gas in the Condamine River pre-dates gas production activity in the area.  The natural gas industry strongly supports further research into this phenomenon.

Some facts about gas seeps and bubbles in the Condamine River

Fact 1: Natural gas seepage in parts of the Condamine River is not new – according to local knowledge it goes back at least 30 years.

Fact 2: The coals beneath the Condamine River naturally contain methane gas and are much closer to the surface than is normally the case.

Fact 3: Following an investigation into Condamine River gas seeps, the Queensland Department of Natural Resources and Mines said in 2012: “…there is no safety risk or evidence of environmental harm occurring in the immediate area from the Condamine River gas seeps”.  (Source: https://www.dnrm.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/119669/condamine-river-gas-seep.pdf).

Fact 4: Following 2.5 years of research into Condamine River gas seeps, the CSIRO stated: “the work has looked at the environmental impact in that area and it shows no impact whatsoever.” (Source: http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/gas-seeping-from-condamine-river-poses-no-threat-says-csiro/news-story/a5d03e36626644b87eeccaab9710e37b )."


[url]https://www.ournaturaladvantage.com.au/blog/condamine-river-gas-seeps/[/url]

Queensland Department of Natural Resources and Mines looked at that 2 years before Canavan was elected to Parliament.
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Reply #5 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 7:03pm
 
Of course Fracking is so environmentally and conservationally wrong. But its all about deep pockets and every Government gets it's 'mining cut' like a diamond.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #6 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 7:22pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 7:03pm:
Of course Fracking is so environmentally and conservationally wrong. But its all about deep pockets and every Government gets it's 'mining cut' like a diamond.



It's short term gain made by wrecking the underground
environment forever.
Underground bore water could be polluted till the end of time.
A lot of bore water is already ruined naturally by
Uranium and other toxic chemicals.
We risk ruining more of it.
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Reply #7 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 8:21pm
 
This Topic has been done before ages ago I think.
Seems not much has been done - the Fracking still goes on.
People are willing to sell their properties for Fracking - to take the money and leave.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #8 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 8:42pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 8:21pm:
This Topic has been done before ages ago I think.
Seems not much has been done - the Fracking still goes on.
People are willing to sell their properties for Fracking - to take the money and leave.



It shows how greedy human beings are -
to make a short term profit but leave the world
with polluted water forever.

It would be better if such people were never born.
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That's why the Virus is a good thing.
It cleanses the filth from the world.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #10 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 6:24am
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 9:08pm:
That's why the Virus is a good thing.
It cleanses the filth from the world.


How many people will the poisoned water kill
in the next 1000 years?
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Reply #11 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 2:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 6:24am:
How many people will the poisoned water kill
in the next 1000 years?



What poisons? A river on fire suggests methane which is relatively non-toxic. it is how they found coal and oil in the early days.
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lee wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 2:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 6:24am:
How many people will the poisoned water kill
in the next 1000 years?



What poisons? A river on fire suggests methane which is relatively non-toxic. it is how they found coal and oil in the early days.



No - the poisons used in fracking and the other
natural poisons that are released such as
Uranium caused by interfering in the bedrock.

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Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2020 at 10:24am:
the poisons used in fracking and the other
natural poisons that are released such as
Uranium caused by interfering in the bedrock.



What poisons used in fracking?

Uranium is naturally released in water anyway. But filters are available.
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Reply #14 - Apr 24th, 2020 at 5:58pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 24th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2020 at 10:24am:
the poisons used in fracking and the other
natural poisons that are released such as
Uranium caused by interfering in the bedrock.



What poisons used in fracking?

Uranium is naturally released in water anyway. But filters are available.



Google it - I'm not going to spoon feed you.
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