Brian Ross wrote on May 6
th, 2020 at 11:21pm:
Raven wrote on May 6
th, 2020 at 10:41pm:
Raven has respect for Ardern.
She is the first PM to have dealt with a terrorist attack, a volcanic eruption and a pandemic all in her 1st term, whilst holding a baby.
Her approval rating, in NZ is I believe about 80%. She also had a baby in her first term. She has performed spectacularly well IMO.
Very popular indeed
My question for Skippy and yourself still stands though
She is a very nurturing leader
If you were a private in the army
What sort of leader would you like
One who nurtured you and applied bandaids to your blisters
Or one who really pushed you
If you were a student in a high school
What sort of leader would you like
A nurturing principal who loved you
Or a demanding principal who pushed you
Maybe there is a case that the young child requires nothing but nurturing
But during adolescence the teenager requires expectations and judgements to be made
And boundaries to be set
So I have no doubt that leaders such as jacinda are what people want
But are leaders such as Jacinta what is good for people
Jacinda's equivalence would include Angela Merkel Macron and Justin Trudeau
Very nurturing type figures
The other side of the coin
The judgemental father
Well I would put it to you that Paul Keating and Bob hawke to some extent were judgmental fathers
They oversaw a lot of economic growth
President Putin and president ping would fit that mould
Would the people of China prefer jacinda as their leader
Undoubtedly
Would they have achieved the economic success that they have under Jacinta
Well that's a question worth thinking about
I actually reached the rank of Sergeant, Aqua.
I always preferred leaders in the army that explained what they wanted rather than those that simply gave orders and expected them to be obeyed to the letter. The Australian Army has always been co-operative in it's approach to most problems. Leaders explain what they want to do and then issue orders in line with those expectations. Ever since Sir John Monash, successful leaders have been those that included their subordinates in their decision making.
Obviously, you have a distorted idea of how the Army functions. It is a band of individuals working towards a common goal. Individuals who have been trained and good leaders trust that training and the individuals to use their initiative to achieve that goal. They don't expect robots who must be driven to that goal to achieve it. You've been watching too many Hollywood movies, Aqua.
For a national leader, I would like one that listened and acted on the needs of the country, rather than one that attempted to impose their ideology on it. Tories have to force people to adopt their ideology because it is unnatural. Labor leaders ask people to follow them and they generally, except for idiots, do.
Now, why don't you tell me how much a "beta male" I am. I've never said I like random men molesting my daughters/sisters/wife, unlike you have. Tsk, tsk. Such a alpha male.