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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #120 - May 7th, 2020 at 12:48pm
 

No substance?


- created 92,000 jobs

- banned semi-automatic and assault rifles

- built more than 2200 state houses

- introduced the zero carbon bill

- deployed over 1600 new police officers

- banned single-use plastic bags

- planted 140 million trees

- free lunches in schools programme

- increased wages for police, nurses and teachers


Sounds pretty substantial to me.


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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #121 - May 7th, 2020 at 12:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
No substance?


- created 92,000 jobs

- banned semi-automatic and assault rifles

- built more than 2200 state houses

- introduced the zero carbon bill

- deployed over 1600 new police officers

- banned single-use plastic bags

- planted 140 million trees

- free lunches in schools programme

- increased wages for police, nurses and teachers


Sounds pretty substantial to me.




Oh come on greggery you know thats all cancelled out by the fact that shes a woman

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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #122 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:00pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 12:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
No substance?


- created 92,000 jobs

- banned semi-automatic and assault rifles

- built more than 2200 state houses

- introduced the zero carbon bill

- deployed over 1600 new police officers

- banned single-use plastic bags

- planted 140 million trees

- free lunches in schools programme

- increased wages for police, nurses and teachers


Sounds pretty substantial to me.




Oh come on greggery you know thats all cancelled out by the fact that shes a woman

Spot


Sad, but true.

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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #123 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:01pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 6:18am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 11:21pm:
Raven wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:41pm:
Raven has respect for Ardern.

She is the first PM to have dealt with a terrorist attack, a volcanic eruption and a pandemic all in her 1st term, whilst holding a baby.



Her approval rating, in NZ is I believe about 80%.  She also had a baby in her first term.  She has performed spectacularly well IMO.   Cool



Very popular indeed
My question for Skippy and yourself still stands though

She is a very nurturing leader

If you were a private in the army
What sort of leader would you like
One who nurtured you and applied bandaids to your blisters
Or one who really pushed you

If you were a student in a high school
What sort of leader would you like
A nurturing principal who loved you
Or a demanding principal who pushed you

Maybe there is a case that the young child requires nothing but nurturing
But during adolescence the teenager requires expectations and judgements to be made
And boundaries to be set

So I have no doubt that leaders such as jacinda are what people want
But are leaders such as Jacinta what is good for people

Jacinda's equivalence would include Angela Merkel Macron and Justin Trudeau
Very nurturing type figures

The other side of the coin
The judgemental father
Well I would put it to you that Paul Keating and Bob hawke to some extent were judgmental fathers
They oversaw a lot of economic growth
President Putin and president ping would fit that mould

Would the people of China prefer jacinda as their leader
Undoubtedly
Would they have achieved the economic success that they have under Jacinta
Well that's a question worth thinking about


I actually reached the rank of Sergeant, Aqua.

I always preferred leaders in the army that explained what they wanted rather than those that simply gave orders and expected them to be obeyed to the letter.  The Australian Army has always been co-operative in it's approach to most problems.  Leaders explain what they want to do and then issue orders in line with those expectations.  Ever since Sir John Monash, successful leaders have been those that included their subordinates in their decision making.

Obviously, you have a distorted idea of how the Army functions.  It is a band of individuals working towards a common goal.  Individuals who have been trained and good leaders trust that training and the individuals to use their initiative to achieve that goal.   They don't expect robots who must be driven to that goal to achieve it.  You've been watching too many Hollywood movies, Aqua.  Roll Eyes

For a national leader, I would like one that listened and acted on the needs of the country, rather than one that attempted to impose their ideology on it.  Tories have to force people to adopt their ideology because it is unnatural.  Labor leaders ask people to follow them and they generally, except for idiots, do.

Now, why don't you tell me how much a "beta male" I am.  I've never said I like random men molesting my daughters/sisters/wife, unlike you have.  Tsk, tsk.  Such a alpha male.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #124 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:01pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 6:18am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 11:21pm:
Raven wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:41pm:
Raven has respect for Ardern.

She is the first PM to have dealt with a terrorist attack, a volcanic eruption and a pandemic all in her 1st term, whilst holding a baby.



Her approval rating, in NZ is I believe about 80%.  She also had a baby in her first term.  She has performed spectacularly well IMO.   Cool



Very popular indeed
My question for Skippy and yourself still stands though

She is a very nurturing leader

If you were a private in the army
What sort of leader would you like
One who nurtured you and applied bandaids to your blisters
Or one who really pushed you

If you were a student in a high school
What sort of leader would you like
A nurturing principal who loved you
Or a demanding principal who pushed you

Maybe there is a case that the young child requires nothing but nurturing
But during adolescence the teenager requires expectations and judgements to be made
And boundaries to be set

So I have no doubt that leaders such as jacinda are what people want
But are leaders such as Jacinta what is good for people

Jacinda's equivalence would include Angela Merkel Macron and Justin Trudeau
Very nurturing type figures

The other side of the coin
The judgemental father
Well I would put it to you that Paul Keating and Bob hawke to some extent were judgmental fathers
They oversaw a lot of economic growth
President Putin and president ping would fit that mould

Would the people of China prefer jacinda as their leader
Undoubtedly
Would they have achieved the economic success that they have under Jacinta
Well that's a question worth thinking about


I actually reached the rank of Sergeant, Aqua.

I always preferred leaders in the army that explained what they wanted rather than those that simply gave orders and expected them to be obeyed to the letter.  The Australian Army has always been co-operative in it's approach to most problems.  Leaders explain what they want to do and then issue orders in line with those expectations.  Ever since Sir John Monash, successful leaders have been those that included their subordinates in their decision making.

Obviously, you have a distorted idea of how the Army functions.  It is a band of individuals working towards a common goal.  Individuals who have been trained and good leaders trust that training and the individuals to use their initiative to achieve that goal.   They don't expect robots who must be driven to that goal to achieve it.  You've been watching too many Hollywood movies, Aqua.  Roll Eyes

For a national leader, I would like one that listened and acted on the needs of the country, rather than one that attempted to impose their ideology on it.  Tories have to force people to adopt their ideology because it is unnatural.  Labor leaders ask people to follow them and they generally, except for idiots, do.

Now, why don't you tell me how much a "beta male" I am.  I've never said I like random men molesting my daughters/sisters/wife, unlike you have.  Tsk, tsk.  Such a alpha male.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


certainly not 'random " men.

and certainly not "molesting".

yuk.

so no place for a discipline in the armed services .
just nurture them into becoming efficeint killers  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #125 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
No substance?


- created 92,000 jobs

- banned semi-automatic and assault rifles

- built more than 2200 state houses

- introduced the zero carbon bill

- deployed over 1600 new police officers

- banned single-use plastic bags

- planted 140 million trees

- free lunches in schools programme

- increased wages for police, nurses and teachers


Sounds pretty substantial to me.




how very nurturing of her.

my prediction is that creates a spoilt  electorate.
the "age of entitlement" is still with us  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #126 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:49pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:01pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 6:18am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 11:21pm:
Raven wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:41pm:
Raven has respect for Ardern.

She is the first PM to have dealt with a terrorist attack, a volcanic eruption and a pandemic all in her 1st term, whilst holding a baby.



Her approval rating, in NZ is I believe about 80%.  She also had a baby in her first term.  She has performed spectacularly well IMO.   Cool



Very popular indeed
My question for Skippy and yourself still stands though

She is a very nurturing leader

If you were a private in the army
What sort of leader would you like
One who nurtured you and applied bandaids to your blisters
Or one who really pushed you

If you were a student in a high school
What sort of leader would you like
A nurturing principal who loved you
Or a demanding principal who pushed you

Maybe there is a case that the young child requires nothing but nurturing
But during adolescence the teenager requires expectations and judgements to be made
And boundaries to be set

So I have no doubt that leaders such as jacinda are what people want
But are leaders such as Jacinta what is good for people

Jacinda's equivalence would include Angela Merkel Macron and Justin Trudeau
Very nurturing type figures

The other side of the coin
The judgemental father
Well I would put it to you that Paul Keating and Bob hawke to some extent were judgmental fathers
They oversaw a lot of economic growth
President Putin and president ping would fit that mould

Would the people of China prefer jacinda as their leader
Undoubtedly
Would they have achieved the economic success that they have under Jacinta
Well that's a question worth thinking about


I actually reached the rank of Sergeant, Aqua.

I always preferred leaders in the army that explained what they wanted rather than those that simply gave orders and expected them to be obeyed to the letter.  The Australian Army has always been co-operative in it's approach to most problems.  Leaders explain what they want to do and then issue orders in line with those expectations.  Ever since Sir John Monash, successful leaders have been those that included their subordinates in their decision making.

Obviously, you have a distorted idea of how the Army functions.  It is a band of individuals working towards a common goal.  Individuals who have been trained and good leaders trust that training and the individuals to use their initiative to achieve that goal.   They don't expect robots who must be driven to that goal to achieve it.  You've been watching too many Hollywood movies, Aqua.  Roll Eyes

For a national leader, I would like one that listened and acted on the needs of the country, rather than one that attempted to impose their ideology on it.  Tories have to force people to adopt their ideology because it is unnatural.  Labor leaders ask people to follow them and they generally, except for idiots, do.

Now, why don't you tell me how much a "beta male" I am.  I've never said I like random men molesting my daughters/sisters/wife, unlike you have.  Tsk, tsk.  Such a alpha male.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


certainly not 'random " men.

and certainly not "molesting".

yuk.


The question was would you allow a random dude to molest your daughter/sister/wife?  You replied with a "yes".  You are disgusting Aqua.  A real beta male.

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so no place for a discipline in the armed services .
just nurture them into becoming efficeint killers  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The word is "efficient", Aqua.  Roll Eyes

Better to nurture them than make them unthinking, unnatural killers.  That way they turn into the SS.  My way, they remain proper citizens with a right from wrong.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #127 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:55pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
No substance?


- created 92,000 jobs

- banned semi-automatic and assault rifles

- built more than 2200 state houses

- introduced the zero carbon bill

- deployed over 1600 new police officers

- banned single-use plastic bags

- planted 140 million trees

- free lunches in schools programme

- increased wages for police, nurses and teachers


Sounds pretty substantial to me.




how very nurturing of her.

my prediction is that creates a spoilt  electorate.
the "age of entitlement" is still with us  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Much better to see police work for nothing, millions more unemployed, and kids starving, yeah?

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Reply #128 - May 7th, 2020 at 2:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:49pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:01pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 6:18am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 11:21pm:
Raven wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:41pm:
Raven has respect for Ardern.

She is the first PM to have dealt with a terrorist attack, a volcanic eruption and a pandemic all in her 1st term, whilst holding a baby.



Her approval rating, in NZ is I believe about 80%.  She also had a baby in her first term.  She has performed spectacularly well IMO.   Cool



Very popular indeed
My question for Skippy and yourself still stands though

She is a very nurturing leader

If you were a private in the army
What sort of leader would you like
One who nurtured you and applied bandaids to your blisters
Or one who really pushed you

If you were a student in a high school
What sort of leader would you like
A nurturing principal who loved you
Or a demanding principal who pushed you

Maybe there is a case that the young child requires nothing but nurturing
But during adolescence the teenager requires expectations and judgements to be made
And boundaries to be set

So I have no doubt that leaders such as jacinda are what people want
But are leaders such as Jacinta what is good for people

Jacinda's equivalence would include Angela Merkel Macron and Justin Trudeau
Very nurturing type figures

The other side of the coin
The judgemental father
Well I would put it to you that Paul Keating and Bob hawke to some extent were judgmental fathers
They oversaw a lot of economic growth
President Putin and president ping would fit that mould

Would the people of China prefer jacinda as their leader
Undoubtedly
Would they have achieved the economic success that they have under Jacinta
Well that's a question worth thinking about


I actually reached the rank of Sergeant, Aqua.

I always preferred leaders in the army that explained what they wanted rather than those that simply gave orders and expected them to be obeyed to the letter.  The Australian Army has always been co-operative in it's approach to most problems.  Leaders explain what they want to do and then issue orders in line with those expectations.  Ever since Sir John Monash, successful leaders have been those that included their subordinates in their decision making.

Obviously, you have a distorted idea of how the Army functions.  It is a band of individuals working towards a common goal.  Individuals who have been trained and good leaders trust that training and the individuals to use their initiative to achieve that goal.   They don't expect robots who must be driven to that goal to achieve it.  You've been watching too many Hollywood movies, Aqua.  Roll Eyes

For a national leader, I would like one that listened and acted on the needs of the country, rather than one that attempted to impose their ideology on it.  Tories have to force people to adopt their ideology because it is unnatural.  Labor leaders ask people to follow them and they generally, except for idiots, do.

Now, why don't you tell me how much a "beta male" I am.  I've never said I like random men molesting my daughters/sisters/wife, unlike you have.  Tsk, tsk.  Such a alpha male.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


certainly not 'random " men.

and certainly not "molesting".

yuk.


The question was would you allow a random dude to molest your daughter/sister/wife?  You replied with a "yes".  You are disgusting Aqua.  A real beta male.

Quote:
so no place for a discipline in the armed services .
just nurture them into becoming efficeint killers  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The word is "efficient", Aqua.  Roll Eyes

Better to nurture them than make them unthinking, unnatural killers.  That way they turn into the SS.  My way, they remain proper citizens with a right from wrong.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Oh dear. Tsk tsk
Lying again.
I would never say random dude or molest.
Such a liar.


But say my daughter came to me and said
" dad, I was interning for bill clinton and the guy was just such a dominator. When he touched me, I felt this tingling sensation all over my body "
I would say

Good for you girl.

I don't consider bill some random dude.
And I don't consider a guy being comfortable in his charisma being a molestation.

A drunk loser in some nightclub?
Now she would get a stern stare if she fronted up to breakfast with fat Steve
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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #129 - May 7th, 2020 at 2:42pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
so no place for a discipline in the armed services .
just nurture them into becoming efficeint killers  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



The Household Cavalry get no nonsense from Colonel in Chief at the Palace.
Athena and Minerva were efficient.  Lionesses kill more than lions.
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Reply #130 - May 7th, 2020 at 3:40pm
 
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Reply #131 - May 7th, 2020 at 3:42pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 12:54pm:
Oh come on greggery you know thats all cancelled out by the fact that shes a woman



even worse, she dared to breast feed at work Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #132 - May 7th, 2020 at 5:19pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 2:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:49pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:01pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 6:18am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 11:21pm:
Raven wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:41pm:
Raven has respect for Ardern.

She is the first PM to have dealt with a terrorist attack, a volcanic eruption and a pandemic all in her 1st term, whilst holding a baby.



Her approval rating, in NZ is I believe about 80%.  She also had a baby in her first term.  She has performed spectacularly well IMO.   Cool



Very popular indeed
My question for Skippy and yourself still stands though

She is a very nurturing leader

If you were a private in the army
What sort of leader would you like
One who nurtured you and applied bandaids to your blisters
Or one who really pushed you

If you were a student in a high school
What sort of leader would you like
A nurturing principal who loved you
Or a demanding principal who pushed you

Maybe there is a case that the young child requires nothing but nurturing
But during adolescence the teenager requires expectations and judgements to be made
And boundaries to be set

So I have no doubt that leaders such as jacinda are what people want
But are leaders such as Jacinta what is good for people

Jacinda's equivalence would include Angela Merkel Macron and Justin Trudeau
Very nurturing type figures

The other side of the coin
The judgemental father
Well I would put it to you that Paul Keating and Bob hawke to some extent were judgmental fathers
They oversaw a lot of economic growth
President Putin and president ping would fit that mould

Would the people of China prefer jacinda as their leader
Undoubtedly
Would they have achieved the economic success that they have under Jacinta
Well that's a question worth thinking about


I actually reached the rank of Sergeant, Aqua.

I always preferred leaders in the army that explained what they wanted rather than those that simply gave orders and expected them to be obeyed to the letter.  The Australian Army has always been co-operative in it's approach to most problems.  Leaders explain what they want to do and then issue orders in line with those expectations.  Ever since Sir John Monash, successful leaders have been those that included their subordinates in their decision making.

Obviously, you have a distorted idea of how the Army functions.  It is a band of individuals working towards a common goal.  Individuals who have been trained and good leaders trust that training and the individuals to use their initiative to achieve that goal.   They don't expect robots who must be driven to that goal to achieve it.  You've been watching too many Hollywood movies, Aqua.  Roll Eyes

For a national leader, I would like one that listened and acted on the needs of the country, rather than one that attempted to impose their ideology on it.  Tories have to force people to adopt their ideology because it is unnatural.  Labor leaders ask people to follow them and they generally, except for idiots, do.

Now, why don't you tell me how much a "beta male" I am.  I've never said I like random men molesting my daughters/sisters/wife, unlike you have.  Tsk, tsk.  Such a alpha male.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


certainly not 'random " men.

and certainly not "molesting".

yuk.


The question was would you allow a random dude to molest your daughter/sister/wife?  You replied with a "yes".  You are disgusting Aqua.  A real beta male.

Quote:
so no place for a discipline in the armed services .
just nurture them into becoming efficeint killers  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The word is "efficient", Aqua.  Roll Eyes

Better to nurture them than make them unthinking, unnatural killers.  That way they turn into the SS.  My way, they remain proper citizens with a right from wrong.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Oh dear. Tsk tsk
Lying again.
I would never say random dude or molest.
Such a liar.


You didn't say it.  I did.  You are a beta male, Aqua.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #133 - May 7th, 2020 at 5:22pm
 
tsk tsk bwian.

caught lying again on the internet.

run along to your sandpit  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet
Reply #134 - May 7th, 2020 at 6:52pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 12:48pm:
No substance?


- created 92,000 jobs

- banned semi-automatic and assault rifles

- built more than 2200 state houses

- introduced the zero carbon bill

- deployed over 1600 new police officers

- banned single-use plastic bags

- planted 140 million trees

- free lunches in schools programme

- increased wages for police, nurses and teachers


Sounds pretty substantial to me.



 
Grin Fancy you trotting out the fictitious job creation figures of a Politician/political party.

What sort of jobs?

The rest has supposedly been done here too ... but by whom?

And banning single use plastic bags is a nonsense.

What they have been replaced with are even worse because they won't break down/are not biodegradable.

You think they won't get into the environment?

Employed 1600 new police ... not deployed.

To where were they deployed?

140 million trees? What? ... Pine plantations?

She hasn't been in the seat long enough to do most of that.
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