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Reply #90 - May 6th, 2020 at 1:38pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on May 4th, 2020 at 12:58pm:
That should raise the average IQ of the meeting if nothing else.  Cool

Jacinda Ardern to join Australian national cabinet


Welcome to the trans-national cabinet.

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern will join Australia's national cabinet meeting on Tuesday to discuss COVID-19, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced.

https://i.imgur.com/ig0qxKx.jpg

Mr Morrison suggested last Thursday she phone in to the meeting with Australia's state and territory leaders, and following national cabinet's agreement on Friday, she was was formally invited and has accepted.

www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/coronavirus-updates-live-victoria-six-more-cases-linked-to-melbourne-meatworks-cluster-pm-will-not-back-down-on-schools-boris-johnson-says-doctors-were-preparing-his-death-notice-20200504-p54pgk.html#p50gce


Seriously?..... what a waste of space.

Why not bring over that other Commonwealth member ... the bedwetting PC sjw leftard Justin Trudeau?

She & he would be a force for virtue signalling together.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #91 - May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm
 
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.
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Reply #92 - May 6th, 2020 at 2:16pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.



i dont think thats what is happening.

i think , as gnads said, when you look at jacinda or justin trudeau, they dont offer much.

what do they offer?

they mouth platitudes and motherhood statements .
they make it about themselves and their own "reputation " as "morally superior " leaders.

a guy like twiggy forrest would bring some real substance to the national cabinet.
some real insight into how to get the china-australia relationship moving forward.

jacinda?   

well, you tell me what special insight she brings apart from just reading an auto cue , written by a bureacrat
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Reply #93 - May 6th, 2020 at 2:18pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.


And some "men" will always be threatened by strong women in positions of power.

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Reply #94 - May 6th, 2020 at 2:28pm
 
It is a wise move because New Zealand will be the first nation we open borders with given both nations seem to have the rate of infection contained.

Just do not forget to get some oats to feed her during the meeting.

Sorry, I just could not resist that one.
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Reply #95 - May 6th, 2020 at 2:38pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:16pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.



i dont think thats what is happening.

i think , as gnads said, when you look at jacinda or justin trudeau, they dont offer much.

what do they offer?


Strength in leadership, making informed yet difficult decisions and being clear and concise communicators.

I'd even give Morrison, someone who after his failures during the bushfire crisis I thought I'd never say this, but I'll give him praise for doing the same thing, albeit if he was late to the party.
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Reply #96 - May 6th, 2020 at 2:41pm
 
Jake Winker Frogen wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
It is a wise move because New Zealand will be the first nation we open borders with given both nations seem to have the rate of infection contained.

Just do not forget to get some oats to feed her during the meeting.

Sorry, I just could not resist that one.


It's low hanging fruit, but I get it...

She's a woman, she'll always be subject to these comments, more than normal for political leaders.

The men in power have to show that they care about these things for them to be a target, like Trump.  His fake hair and face paint will invite those comments because he makes them a target.

But that and his weight is the same low hanging fruit, so like I said, I get it...
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Reply #97 - May 6th, 2020 at 3:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:18pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.


And some "men" will always be threatened by strong women in positions of power.




its not "threatened", its more "what will be the new reality of having women in positions of power"?

men value competance in other men above all other things.

you can say that this valuing of competance gets 'corrupted' into tyrannical rule  and fair enough, but getting back to basics.

whether its a company, a building site, a sporting team, an army  or a political leadership group , men at their core have competance as the gold standard.

women value compassion above all other things.
its biologically wired into them , because an infant is "always right' and the right response to an infant is ALWAYS to have compassion towards it.
in a sense, no matter what an infant does, the female must love it and treat it as the utmost priority.

women in power , bring that core set of biological pre suppositions.
they have a lot of trouble with any "group" that is wailing and crying like an infant in not falling into unconditional love.

but there is a time in all structures for conditional love and for the masculine assessment of those not doing well to

"clean your act up"
"get your act together'
"learn to stand up and take some responsibility and make your way in the world"


if we look at covid, the masculine would say "take personal responsibility. its on YOU to wash your hands, wear a mask, socially distance, assess your risks , keep yourself informed".

the feminine response to covid is that the population is like little children .
"dont go out, be safe. make yourself small, follow the rules , we will keep you in this cocoon and we will tell you when you can venture out".

theres no freedom in that
theres no personal growth in that
there is only infantilisation and oedipal smothering .

and when the child rebels and goes to the beach, there is the call to authoritarian masculine to impose the will of the "evil queen"
"officer arrest those people " they did not follow mummys rules.
"just wait til your father gets home "
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Reply #98 - May 6th, 2020 at 3:42pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:41pm:
Jake Winker Frogen wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:28pm:
It is a wise move because New Zealand will be the first nation we open borders with given both nations seem to have the rate of infection contained.

Just do not forget to get some oats to feed her during the meeting.

Sorry, I just could not resist that one.


It's low hanging fruit, but I get it...

She's a woman, she'll always be subject to these comments, more than normal for political leaders.

The men in power have to show that they care about these things for them to be a target, like Trump.  His fake hair and face paint will invite those comments because he makes them a target.

But that and his weight is the same low hanging fruit, so like I said, I get it...


And besides no one has ever changed one thing about the world on an internet forum, so why not have some fun with it?

I can do Trump too, I just do that over at Fox News.
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Reply #99 - May 6th, 2020 at 3:46pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:18pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.


And some "men" will always be threatened by strong women in positions of power.




its not "threatened", ...




Threatened, and triggered.

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Reply #100 - May 6th, 2020 at 4:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 3:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:18pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.


And some "men" will always be threatened by strong women in positions of power.




its not "threatened", ...




Threatened, and triggered.



its a nuanced point.
i wouldnt expect an idealogue like you to be capable of such analysis
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Reply #101 - May 6th, 2020 at 4:32pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:18pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.


And some "men" will always be threatened by strong women in positions of power.




its not "threatened", its more "what will be the new reality of having women in positions of power"?


Yeah, threatened...

Textbook.

You think only men can lead and now a woman is in charge you're threatened.
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Reply #102 - May 6th, 2020 at 4:38pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 4th, 2020 at 10:51pm:
Greater New Zeastralia .... been talked about for ages - might become a reality...  the Eastern Provinces could benefit from  closer ties...




I agree   we need to stand strong together.....China is throwing its weight around and pointing its nasty finger....

Oz and NZ need to stand shoulder to shoulder.....

we need each other,.
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Reply #103 - May 6th, 2020 at 4:39pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 4:32pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:18pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.


And some "men" will always be threatened by strong women in positions of power.




its not "threatened", its more "what will be the new reality of having women in positions of power"?


Yeah, threatened...

Textbook.

You think only men can lead and now a woman is in charge you're threatened.



i expected better of you skippy.
also incapable of nuance.

what do YOU think will be the result of this social experiment where women are assuming political power.

its a huge change after 1000's of generations .

do you think its all just positive?
that women are the same as men and so why not?
if you think "women are the same as men," then does that mean women in the patriachy are just behaving as reprehensibly as men.
if so, then "how does that help"?

if you think women bring positive skills to the table (cooperation and collaboration may be 2) then do they bring any negative drawbacks as well?

too much to think about?
makes your brain hurt?
better retreat to the ideology like greg and just call me triggered  Wink
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Reply #104 - May 6th, 2020 at 5:05pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 4:32pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:18pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 2:07pm:
It's like being in high school again...

All the people who think they're tough are trying to bully the smart kids by calling them bed wetters haha...

I guess some people will always be weak little children at heart.


And some "men" will always be threatened by strong women in positions of power.




its not "threatened", its more "what will be the new reality of having women in positions of power"?


Yeah, threatened...

Textbook.

You think only men can lead and now a woman is in charge you're threatened.



i expected better of you skippy.
also incapable of nuance.

what do YOU think will be the result of this social experiment where women are assuming political power.

its a huge change after 1000's of generations .

do you think its all just positive?
that women are the same as men and so why not?
if you think "women are the same as men," then does that mean women in the patriachy are just behaving as reprehensibly as men.
if so, then "how does that help"?

if you think women bring positive skills to the table (cooperation and collaboration may be 2) then do they bring any negative drawbacks as well?

too much to think about?
makes your brain hurt?
better retreat to the ideology like greg and just call me triggered  Wink


You're hiding behind the claims of nuance but your notion that women can't lead because 1000's of generations say so cuts through your excuses.

You judge a man in leadership by his actions.  You pre-judge a woman and don't even consider her actual actions, instead characterising everything she does as weak and meek. 

In your world, women are to be controlled, not to be in control.  You've said it before.

Now that one is in control it doesn't fit into your world view.  It throws everything on it's head and you're threatened by it.

And it seems you don't even realise.

We're in the situation that if she and say Trump had an identical platform, you would call Trump strong and her weak. 

Hell, there are those more triggered than you that spread the conspiracy theory that she's a man.

She, in fact any woman in power exposes just how weak you are.  But especially her.  An unmarried pregnant woman who took maternity leave while in office.  No wonder she triggeres you so.

No Alpha Manosphere doublespeak can save you now.
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