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May 31^st, 2020 at 11:05am

Upon reading this, Officer Chauvin has come out honorable via the Courts on all but 1 complaint. Just one. It also highlights the dangerous world he works in.
Floyd on the other hand was a Criminal on many crimes committed. He was soliciting counterfeit money at the time of his arrest.
Floyd was known to Chauvin and the other officers.
They make the cops tough in the USA.

Those Protests are not protests, they are just riots conducted by the Criminals of the streets. Maybe the Joker is pulling their strings? Should we call Chauvin 'Bat Man'?

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jimmybrown Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 56 Gender:	Re: Chauvins background Reply #1 - May 31^st, 2020 at 11:14am It is irrelevant. The only relevant thing is the method of Floyds arrest.
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Reply #2 - May 31^st, 2020 at 11:31am

jimmybrown wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:14am:

It is irrelevant. The only relevant thing is the method of Floyds arrest.

Your Gaols are overflowing in the USA. You also have a system that legalises Execution. What are you going to do? Especially in a nation that 'arms' its citizens by an archaic Law. Many Australian cops do stints in the USA for educational reasons and they all admit it is a far more dangerous place there because the Criminals run riot under the 'Freedom Act'.
Here, the Criminal activity is controlled. It's a minority, not a majority.

What are you going to do? Send your Criminals here via 6 months on a leaky boat? You would be justifying British involvement here in Australia.

So the police officer used a submission technique used often by many. Maybe he just wasn't educated enough to know when to release?

In a nation that issues EXECUTION, I find it hard to believe this is anything out of the ordinary. It's the nature of the beast and you didn't see Australians (in the USA) take to the streets or Americans (even Black) come out on the streets... and she wasn't even a known criminal.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

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Reply #3 - May 31^st, 2020 at 11:40am

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:31am:

So the police officer used a submission technique used often by many. Maybe he just wasn't educated enough to know when to release?

You need to learn to read. That "technique" is not taught to law enforcement anywhere in the world that I am aware of, I have never seen it used and I have participated in literally hundreds of restraint situations. It would have meant instant dismissal and criminal charges for anyone in this country with a badge doing that, let alone the immediate flogging he would have got from his colleagues. Now let me repeat this so you learn something , in law enforcement training the neck is specifically taught as a no go area in restraint situations. This officer was doing what he was trained

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Reply #4 - May 31^st, 2020 at 1:02pm

jimmybrown wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:40am:

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:31am:

So the police officer used a submission technique used often by many. Maybe he just wasn't educated enough to know when to release?

You need to learn to read. That "technique" is not taught to law enforcement anywhere in the world that I am aware of, I have never seen it used and I have participated in literally hundreds of restraint situations. It would have meant instant dismissal and criminal charges for anyone in this country with a badge doing that, let alone the immediate flogging he would have got from his colleagues. Now let me repeat this so you learn something , in law enforcement training the neck is specifically taught as a no go area in restraint situations. This officer was doing what he was trained

not

to do. I cant make it any clearer.

So it's ok for Criminals to exhibit the right to 'execute' on the spot (and of 'innocent' people)? But a Police Officer can not do such on a known Criminal.
I really think your nation of people have got their priorities wrong, or at least a minority of them at the moment.

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Reply #5 - May 31^st, 2020 at 2:16pm

This 'takedown and restraint' technique IS taught at numerous Police Academies in the US, it is a standard 'restrain and hold' technique in a situation of non-compliance by the offender in order to control the offender until they are handcuffed. The ONLY time the neck is a forbidden area is a strangle-hold.

I CAN'T MAKE IT ANY CLEARER!

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Reply #6 - May 31^st, 2020 at 4:17pm

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:05am:

Upon reading this, Officer Chauvin has come out honorable via the Courts on all but 1 complaint. Just one. It also highlights the dangerous world he works in.
Floyd on the other hand was a Criminal on many crimes committed. He was soliciting counterfeit money at the time of his arrest.

Don't you mean allegedly?

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Reply #7 - May 31^st, 2020 at 5:42pm

Fuzzball wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 2:16pm:

This 'takedown and restraint' technique IS taught at numerous Police Academies in the US, it is a standard 'restrain and hold' technique in a situation of non-compliance by the offender in order to control the offender until they are handcuffed. The ONLY time the neck is a forbidden area is a strangle-hold.

I CAN'T MAKE IT ANY CLEARER!

Bullsh1t. Ive had the exact same training they give to US police officers, the neck is what is called a red zone, no go. Only permitted as a target area if your own life is in danger. In fact if you observe the commentary from the prosecutor he confirms this. So cut the c r@p and stop pretending like you know anything about it. Because you are looking pretty stupid now.
And there is no such thing as a "stranglehold" idiot, its called a chokehold and this is the only approved technique to use in this area. To be quite honest id like to demonstrate by putting my knee on your neck so you can observe for yourself how harmless it is, , not for 8 minutes though. 5 seconds should do it.

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Reply #8 - May 31^st, 2020 at 5:47pm

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:02pm:

jimmybrown wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:40am:

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:31am:

So the police officer used a submission technique used often by many. Maybe he just wasn't educated enough to know when to release?

You need to learn to read. That "technique" is not taught to law enforcement anywhere in the world that I am aware of, I have never seen it used and I have participated in literally hundreds of restraint situations. It would have meant instant dismissal and criminal charges for anyone in this country with a badge doing that, let alone the immediate flogging he would have got from his colleagues. Now let me repeat this so you learn something , in law enforcement training the neck is specifically taught as a no go area in restraint situations. This officer was doing what he was trained

not

to do. I cant make it any clearer.

So it's ok for Criminals to exhibit the right to 'execute' on the spot (and of 'innocent' people)? But a Police Officer can not do such on a known Criminal.

You seem to be saying that we should not hold police officers to a higher standard than career criminals. Why dont we just give criminals badges and guns then?

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Reply #9 - May 31^st, 2020 at 5:52pm

some of you appear to be getting confused with "reasonable force" rules, these are different beteen coun trioes and US l;aw enfrcement has a far greater degree of alitude in the force they use which still must be reasonably necassary Quote:

In the U.S., the general rule is that "[a] person is privileged to use such force as reasonably appears necessary to defend him or herself against an apparent threat of unlawful and immediate violence from another."[1] In cases involving non-deadly force, this means that the person must reasonably believe that their use of force was necessary to prevent imminent, unlawful physical harm.[2] When the use of deadly force is involved in a self-defense claim, the person must also reasonably believe that their use of deadly force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's infliction of great bodily harm or death.[3

Some of you may care to actually find something out about restrainting someone lawfully before you comment further and look even more stupid.

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Reply #10 - May 31^st, 2020 at 6:00pm

jimmybrown wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 5:47pm:

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:02pm:

jimmybrown wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:40am:

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:31am:

So the police officer used a submission technique used often by many. Maybe he just wasn't educated enough to know when to release?

You need to learn to read. That "technique" is not taught to law enforcement anywhere in the world that I am aware of, I have never seen it used and I have participated in literally hundreds of restraint situations. It would have meant instant dismissal and criminal charges for anyone in this country with a badge doing that, let alone the immediate flogging he would have got from his colleagues. Now let me repeat this so you learn something , in law enforcement training the neck is specifically taught as a no go area in restraint situations. This officer was doing what he was trained

not

to do. I cant make it any clearer.

So it's ok for Criminals to exhibit the right to 'execute' on the spot (and of 'innocent' people)? But a Police Officer can not do such on a known Criminal.

You seem to be saying that we should not hold police officers to a higher standard than career criminals. Why dont we just give criminals badges and guns then?

You have. You've given the Badge of Freedom to make their own laws and given them guns to defend them.

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Reply #11 - May 31^st, 2020 at 6:00pm

jimmybrown wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 5:42pm:

Fuzzball wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 2:16pm:

This 'takedown and restraint' technique IS taught at numerous Police Academies in the US, it is a standard 'restrain and hold' technique in a situation of non-compliance by the offender in order to control the offender until they are handcuffed. The ONLY time the neck is a forbidden area is a strangle-hold.

I CAN'T MAKE IT ANY CLEARER!

Bullsh1t. Ive had the exact same training they give to US police officers, the neck is what is called a red zone, no go. Only permitted as a target area if your own life is in danger. In fact if you observe the commentary from the prosecutor he confirms this. So cut the c r@p and stop pretending like you know anything about it. Because you are looking pretty stupid now.
And there is no such thing as a "stranglehold" idiot, its called a chokehold and this is the only approved technique to use in this area. To be quite honest id like to demonstrate by putting my knee on your neck so you can observe for yourself how harmless it is, , not for 8 minutes though. 5 seconds should do it.

Stupid is fuzzy wuzzys favourite outfit.

Putting downward pressure on the guys neck for 8 minutes, whilst he is handcuffed and compliant, is murder.

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Reply #12 - May 31^st, 2020 at 7:46pm

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 6:00pm:

jimmybrown wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 5:47pm:

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:02pm:

jimmybrown wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:40am:

Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 11:31am:

So the police officer used a submission technique used often by many. Maybe he just wasn't educated enough to know when to release?

You need to learn to read. That "technique" is not taught to law enforcement anywhere in the world that I am aware of, I have never seen it used and I have participated in literally hundreds of restraint situations. It would have meant instant dismissal and criminal charges for anyone in this country with a badge doing that, let alone the immediate flogging he would have got from his colleagues. Now let me repeat this so you learn something , in law enforcement training the neck is specifically taught as a no go area in restraint situations. This officer was doing what he was trained

not

to do. I cant make it any clearer.

So it's ok for Criminals to exhibit the right to 'execute' on the spot (and of 'innocent' people)? But a Police Officer can not do such on a known Criminal.

You seem to be saying that we should not hold police officers to a higher standard than career criminals. Why dont we just give criminals badges and guns then?

You have. You've given the Badge of Freedom to make their own laws and given them guns to defend them.

Good stuff tonite? Kudos to your dealer.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Chauvins background Reply #13 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 2:39am Law enforcement in America largely comes from the criminal class, white trash & rednecks. Same goes for military. Yeah, they can fight.
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Richdude Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8457 NC Gender:	Re: Chauvins background Reply #14 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 3:06am AiA wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 2:39am: Law enforcement in America largely comes from the criminal class, white trash & rednecks. Same goes for military. Yeah, they can fight. Why are you so unhappy Oy?
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