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Reply #45 - Jun 4th, 2020 at 1:48pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 1:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 1:31pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 1:27pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 1:23pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 11:53am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 11:16am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 11:09am:
Good news smithy - no first home buyers scam for your realtor mates and the handouts are reserved for the uber rich who can afford at least 150k renos on their mansions Wink


like those rich looking to flip houses? that is good news

but don't panic some states have already started increasing first home buyer grants .. the others will follow

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Tasmanian Government opens first home builders grant to anyone as part of coronavirus economic recovery plans



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Who are they going to flip those houses to now ?? Punters on job keep or job seeker Cheesy LOL


nah, they're the mugs that will get stuck paying the landlords mortgage for the rest of their lives, they'll sell to cashed up buyers


I've got more good news for you smithy. Even the richies aren't cashed up at the moment and are flying by the seat of their pants Cheesy LOL


Thats ok .... more for me. Meanwhile you'll still not be able to afford anything


A house is only worth what the bigger fool is willing to pay for it. Looks like you are fast running put of fools Cheesy LOL



nah .,...the fools are the ones paying my mortgage for me. As long as they do that, it doesn't what the seller gets for it, after-all, the tenants are paying for it Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #46 - Jun 4th, 2020 at 4:00pm
 
yes but no first home buyers grants that you lot can steal from this time Wink The good times are over for the realtor scumbags. No where to turn now Wink The direct phone line to the government is no longer effective. No one is listening to your lies at the other end of the phone about the poor renters and first home buyers doing it tough !!
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Reply #47 - Jun 4th, 2020 at 8:45pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 4:00pm:
yes but no first home buyers grants that you lot can steal from this time



fuq .. that doesn't bother me .. i stopped being eligible for those decades ago Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #48 - Jun 4th, 2020 at 11:30pm
 
More good news for you smith Cheesy LOL

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2020/06/highrise-harry-apartment-prices-are-plu...

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Highrise Harry: Apartment prices are plumetting


By Leith van Onselen in Australian Propertyat 12:20 pm on June 4, 2020 | 28 comments

Meriton founder, “Highrise” Harry Triguboff, claims that the prices of apartments at the top end of the market have slumped by around 20%, compared with falls of 10% for other apartments:

Apartment kingpin Harry Triguboff said luxury units had the largest falls of around 20 per cent while units at the lower and medium range dropped 10 per cent…

“There is a very limited number of people who wanted to pay the top price,” Mr Triguboff said…

Mr Triguboff painted a harsher picture of the outlook for new developments than the relatively steady established home market.

Meanwhile, Stockland – Australia’s largest listed residential developer – has welcomed the Morrison Government’s new stimulus package:

“We would welcome any demand stimulus measures to support the housing and construction market, as rising levels of unemployment and a decline in projected population growth place downward pressure on buyer confidence,” Stockland chief executive, communities, Andrew Whitson said.
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Reply #49 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 12:56am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 7:07pm:
cods wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 6:20pm:
my grandson [22] has just signed up for his first home with his girl friend   yep claimed first home buyers...

it was never an option when we bought our first home....we waited 12 years to save up...

I dont begrudge them they still have to furnish  it  it all helps our economy...good on em I say...


WOw the first grant was in 1964, you bought before then.

I didn't qualify for the grant when I bought in the early 80's (between schemes) but it did exist.




When we bought our first home in 1975, there was a grant then, of up to about $750 or so, from memory, but....the qualifying catch was, you had to have x amount of $$$ saved up in a bank account 3 years prior.

So I had worked 2 years at my first job at ATO, and had savings in my bank book that showed those 2 years amounts (them old fashioned little books where the teller wrote in them and initialled).
Fiancé was still earning SFA as he was still doing an apprenticeship, so his bank book wasn’t going to help with the grant.

I ended up getting about $480 as my grant for proving my savings for 2 of those 3 years.
Well that helped, every bit helps, was a lot back then. Glad I got something.
I saved $5000 and we borrowed the rest ($15,000).
We paid off our first home in 3 years.

It’s good when you are both young, working full time and no kids to put as much as possible towards your house payments.
I bought and wore a uniform to work to save money on clothes.
We didn’t do much else except work for our “home”.
No going out to eat, no holidays, no new cars, just head down and work overtime also. We did pay it off quicker that way.
Then we built a lock up garage, and a double carport.
The better cars came later.
We had bombs to drive but that was okay for us, as hubby was a mechanic and could keep them mobile.
Furniture consisting of second hand B&W TV, table & 4 chairs, fridge, and a oil heater.
Couch, bed and twin tub washing machine we bought new as we had that money as a wedding present instead of a wedding reception. My brother was doing woodwork at tech school and made me a coffee table, which I still have to this day.
We put up our own tracks and curtains on that house, and laid the carpet down too.
Learning our own skills as we went along, as whatever we could DIY was money saved.
Those books I borrowed from the Council Library about home handy hints, repairs etc were good at the time. My fave outing was the Library!
We lived in that “home” for 8 years, until I was pregnant with my 2nd child.

Then we looked at up sizing to our next home by 1983.
Our first home was $20,000 in 1975, and we sold it for $50,000 by the time we bought our second home on acreage for $150,000.
We had $50,000 saved up, earning 10% interest which was insane! But hey I no complain!
So then we borrowed $50,000, so we had $100,000 equity on that 2nd home and a $50,000 debt to bank.
The next year after we bought our 2nd home, the property boomed to double!
People I know sold their $30,000 home, put it in the bank while looking for their next home, but..... homes went booom....up double to $60,000 and they lost their opportunity to afford buy another home.
Not many people saw that boom happening, things were slow up to that point with real estste.

But I’ve bored everyone enough for now.

To be continued from 1984 (maybe)... my real estate story.🤗

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Reply #50 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 1:13am
 
Now, can we all be clearer about this $25,000 stimulus that’s on the cards?

I assessed what I heard as it meaning to go towards a new home to be built if we earn under a certain amount, and/or that $25,000 to go towards renovations of $150,000.

Well I think our house could do with new outdoor paving, patio, new carpets and window furnishings. A complete paint.
And ummm... new bathroom and en-suite.
Plus get the roof tiles painted to look fresher.
So have I made it to $150,000 yet to get a $25,000 discount?
I’m sure it will add value to the house. The kitchen was updated 2 years ago.
Just need to find a lazy $125,000 somewhere 🤔

Is that how it works with the renovating scene for this pending stimulus?

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Reply #51 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 1:43am
 
Sophia wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 1:13am:
Now, can we all be clearer about this $25,000 stimulus that’s on the cards?

I assessed what I heard as it meaning to go towards a new home to be built if we earn under a certain amount, and/or that $25,000 to go towards renovations of $150,000.

Well I think our house could do with new outdoor paving, patio, new carpets and window furnishings. A complete paint.
And ummm... new bathroom and en-suite.
Plus get the roof tiles painted to look fresher.
So have I made it to $150,000 yet to get a $25,000 discount?
I’m sure it will add value to the house. The kitchen was updated 2 years ago.
Just need to find a lazy $125,000 somewhere 🤔

Is that how it works with the renovating scene for this pending stimulus?



Same here - I could EQUALLY keep local tradies working, rather than breaking my collapsing back, just as much as their working on a house or a reno worth $150k... who gets to do a reno worth $150k anyway?

I have a laundry to be finished, a bathroom to remodel to suit disability (there's a clincher), a roof cover over a walkway, replacement of wall tiles the idiot put on the floor in wet areas, and a fair bit of painting to be done.  $25k would keep local tradies in clover for a while..... I could throw in the unfinished air con ducting the old owner started but left unfinished (derrr) ....

I can do all those things - but it will take time, and my Airborne back and knees are not that good these days and I don;t climb roofs or into roofs any more ... the old spinal fracture is giving up, it seems... but unlike those who bend the knee to kiss d1ck on minorities and show their solidarity and their virtue signaling - my knees are not too bad .. considering...
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Reply #52 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 5:10am
 
The abbos will be screaming.

What's in it for us?

Mainly because they never buy a home, they simply live in public housing all their lives.

Free houses for life.

There will probably be some sort of free grog scheme for abbos instead.
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Reply #53 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 8:39am
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 10:14am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 5:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 5:23pm:
Step 2.......increase interest rates



interest rates have low for decades now ... and currently at a record low. When are they going up exactly?


but house price to income ratio is higher than any time in history which is why they have to stitch people up to 50 year loans because they are incapable of paying their dues Sad


I had a 50 yr loan 20 yrs ago ... i paid cash for my current house..

You do realise that most people pay if off much much sooner right? Can't be that difficult to pay your dues ... you just can't take annual o'seas holidays or buy luxury sports cars for a while.


Never heard of a 50 yr housing loan?

The standard has been 30 years as it was when I borrowed for my home in 1979.
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Reply #54 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 2:31pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 1:43am:
Sophia wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 1:13am:
Now, can we all be clearer about this $25,000 stimulus that’s on the cards?

I assessed what I heard as it meaning to go towards a new home to be built if we earn under a certain amount, and/or that $25,000 to go towards renovations of $150,000.

Well I think our house could do with new outdoor paving, patio, new carpets and window furnishings. A complete paint.
And ummm... new bathroom and en-suite.
Plus get the roof tiles painted to look fresher.
So have I made it to $150,000 yet to get a $25,000 discount?
I’m sure it will add value to the house. The kitchen was updated 2 years ago.
Just need to find a lazy $125,000 somewhere 🤔

Is that how it works with the renovating scene for this pending stimulus?



Same here - I could EQUALLY keep local tradies working, rather than breaking my collapsing back, just as much as their working on a house or a reno worth $150k... who gets to do a reno worth $150k anyway?

I have a laundry to be finished, a bathroom to remodel to suit disability (there's a clincher), a roof cover over a walkway, replacement of wall tiles the idiot put on the floor in wet areas, and a fair bit of painting to be done.  $25k would keep local tradies in clover for a while..... I could throw in the unfinished air con ducting the old owner started but left unfinished (derrr) ....

I can do all those things - but it will take time, and my Airborne back and knees are not that good these days and I don;t climb roofs or into roofs any more ... the old spinal fracture is giving up, it seems... but unlike those who bend the knee to kiss d1ck on minorities and show their solidarity and their virtue signaling - my knees are not too bad .. considering...


$150,000 is over half the cost of a new house .... you'd get a hardy plank/weathertex exterior 3 bedroom house for $198,000 plus land.

all up under $300,000.

Who'd have the money & the house that would need a $150,000 reno?
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Reply #55 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 4:24pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 4th, 2020 at 11:30pm:
More good news for you smith Cheesy LOL

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2020/06/highrise-harry-apartment-prices-are-plu...

Quote:
Highrise Harry: Apartment prices are plumetting


By Leith van Onselen in Australian Propertyat 12:20 pm on June 4, 2020 | 28 comments

Meriton founder, “Highrise” Harry Triguboff, claims that the prices of apartments at the top end of the market have slumped by around 20%, compared with falls of 10% for other apartments:

Apartment kingpin Harry Triguboff said luxury units had the largest falls of around 20 per cent while units at the lower and medium range dropped 10 per cent…

“There is a very limited number of people who wanted to pay the top price,” Mr Triguboff said…

Mr Triguboff painted a harsher picture of the outlook for new developments than the relatively steady established home market.

Meanwhile, Stockland – Australia’s largest listed residential developer – has welcomed the Morrison Government’s new stimulus package:

“We would welcome any demand stimulus measures to support the housing and construction market, as rising levels of unemployment and a decline in projected population growth place downward pressure on buyer confidence,” Stockland chief executive, communities, Andrew Whitson said.



I've always said apartments are for fools. It's the land that appreciates in value .........buildings typically depreciate
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Reply #56 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 4:25pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 8:39am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 10:14am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 5:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 5:23pm:
Step 2.......increase interest rates



interest rates have low for decades now ... and currently at a record low. When are they going up exactly?


but house price to income ratio is higher than any time in history which is why they have to stitch people up to 50 year loans because they are incapable of paying their dues Sad


I had a 50 yr loan 20 yrs ago ... i paid cash for my current house..

You do realise that most people pay if off much much sooner right? Can't be that difficult to pay your dues ... you just can't take annual o'seas holidays or buy luxury sports cars for a while.


Never heard of a 50 yr housing loan?

The standard has been 30 years as it was when I borrowed for my home in 1979.



yeah ...i think it was 30 yr loan. I was just running with nails comment  Wink
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Reply #57 - Jun 5th, 2020 at 10:42pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 8:39am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 10:14am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 5:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 5:23pm:
Step 2.......increase interest rates



interest rates have low for decades now ... and currently at a record low. When are they going up exactly?


but house price to income ratio is higher than any time in history which is why they have to stitch people up to 50 year loans because they are incapable of paying their dues Sad


I had a 50 yr loan 20 yrs ago ... i paid cash for my current house..

You do realise that most people pay if off much much sooner right? Can't be that difficult to pay your dues ... you just can't take annual o'seas holidays or buy luxury sports cars for a while.


Never heard of a 50 yr housing loan?

The standard has been 30 years as it was when I borrowed for my home in 1979.


Soon there will be 100 year loans where you never pay off the house before you die so the bank will still hold the title Cheesy LOL
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Reply #58 - Jun 6th, 2020 at 9:51am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 5:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 5:23pm:
Step 2.......increase interest rates



interest rates have low for decades now ... and currently at a record low. When are they going up exactly?


They got fairly high leading up to the GFC.



6% isn't that high. And it was short lived
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