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Reply #45 - Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:46pm
 
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SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 6:38am:
Sweden have not got it wrong


They got it wrong.  They're looking at the same economic ruin as their neighbours with a massive death toll to go along with it.

They were brave to try, but it failed.

Stop making excused to protect your fragin opinions...


lets not be melodramatic.

rwanda with a million dead in a week from machetes was massive.

naples 1462 with 70 % dead from the plague is massive.

a few thousand elderly unwell people who got this instead of some other virus in 6 months is not massive


let's not try to minimise it by comparing it to genocides to protects our fragile egos...




you know its times like this I would not be surprised if aqua got a huge dose of covids   I believe in Karma   

sooner or later he is going to come up against something he cant control    a few thousand elderly who were going to die anyway....

why would you bother dealing with someone with a mentality like that???.. Angry Angry Angry Angry


Aqua may have painted himself into a psychological corner.

I know many elderly people, they really like living.
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Reply #46 - Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:48pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 5:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 5:09pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 6:38am:
Sweden have not got it wrong


They got it wrong.  They're looking at the same economic ruin as their neighbours with a massive death toll to go along with it.

They were brave to try, but it failed.

Stop making excused to protect your fragin opinions...


lets not be melodramatic.

rwanda with a million dead in a week from machetes was massive.

naples 1462 with 70 % dead from the plague is massive.

a few thousand elderly unwell people who got this instead of some other virus in 6 months is not massive


let's not try to minimise it by comparing it to genocides to protects our fragile egos...


but you and gweg compared deaths under trump to the number of deaths in the vietnam war , pointed out how covid killed more.

lets not try to minimise deaths in vietnam to covid to protect our fragile egos
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Reply #47 - Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:49pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:46pm:
cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:02pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 5:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 5:09pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 6:38am:
Sweden have not got it wrong


They got it wrong.  They're looking at the same economic ruin as their neighbours with a massive death toll to go along with it.

They were brave to try, but it failed.

Stop making excused to protect your fragin opinions...


lets not be melodramatic.

rwanda with a million dead in a week from machetes was massive.

naples 1462 with 70 % dead from the plague is massive.

a few thousand elderly unwell people who got this instead of some other virus in 6 months is not massive


let's not try to minimise it by comparing it to genocides to protects our fragile egos...




you know its times like this I would not be surprised if aqua got a huge dose of covids   I believe in Karma   

sooner or later he is going to come up against something he cant control    a few thousand elderly who were going to die anyway....

why would you bother dealing with someone with a mentality like that???.. Angry Angry Angry Angry


Aqua may have painted himself into a psychological corner.

I know many elderly people, they really like living.



i like human florishing.

that ALWAYS involves taking on a challenge head on and it never involves trying to construct a "safe space"
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Reply #48 - Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:52pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:02pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 5:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 5:09pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 6:38am:
Sweden have not got it wrong


They got it wrong.  They're looking at the same economic ruin as their neighbours with a massive death toll to go along with it.

They were brave to try, but it failed.

Stop making excused to protect your fragin opinions...


lets not be melodramatic.

rwanda with a million dead in a week from machetes was massive.

naples 1462 with 70 % dead from the plague is massive.

a few thousand elderly unwell people who got this instead of some other virus in 6 months is not massive


let's not try to minimise it by comparing it to genocides to protects our fragile egos...




you know its times like this I would not be surprised if aqua got a huge dose of covids   I believe in Karma   

sooner or later he is going to come up against something he cant control    a few thousand elderly who were going to die anyway....

why would you bother dealing with someone with a mentality like that???.. Angry Angry Angry Angry



not a problem.

1 in 2 men will, if they live long enough, develop a life threatening cancer which will require a massive dose of toughness to overcome.

covid will seem like the sniffles in comparison to what awaits 1 in 2 men.

it will be a good boost to your core confidence to fight it off.

or can we all remain safe and cared for til we are 150  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #49 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 12:19am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:52pm:
cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 6:02pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 5:57pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 5:09pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 5th, 2020 at 6:38am:
Sweden have not got it wrong


They got it wrong.  They're looking at the same economic ruin as their neighbours with a massive death toll to go along with it.

They were brave to try, but it failed.

Stop making excused to protect your fragin opinions...


lets not be melodramatic.

rwanda with a million dead in a week from machetes was massive.

naples 1462 with 70 % dead from the plague is massive.

a few thousand elderly unwell people who got this instead of some other virus in 6 months is not massive


let's not try to minimise it by comparing it to genocides to protects our fragile egos...




you know its times like this I would not be surprised if aqua got a huge dose of covids   I believe in Karma   

sooner or later he is going to come up against something he cant control    a few thousand elderly who were going to die anyway....

why would you bother dealing with someone with a mentality like that???.. Angry Angry Angry Angry



not a problem.

1 in 2 men will, if they live long enough, develop a life threatening cancer which will require a massive dose of toughness to overcome.

covid will seem like the sniffles in comparison to what awaits 1 in 2 men.

it will be a good boost to your core confidence to fight it off.

or can we all remain safe and cared for til we are 150  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Do eight stents, leukemia in waiting, cured bowel cancer and a host of other things help my status here?

T'other day I walked the small dog to the end of the breakwater - and wanted to climb the rocks to view the ocean first hand and maybe spot the dolphins - the small dog looked worried at the big rocks, so I picked her up, climbed the rocks like a gazelle, and we both looked at the ocean... how many 70 yos do that?   Cool
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Reply #50 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 6:34am
 
Surviving cancer can be a life-changing event grappler
And a life-changing event for the better

The overly compassionate modern feminine world
Tries to create endless safe spaces

The feminine is very sensitive to negative emotion
Another way of saying that is that women get upset a lot more easily
And so women try to protect themselves and those they love from exposing themselves to risk for fear that misadventure will occur
And this would then cause distress

But life is continually throwing things at you
You understand this if you live in the bush
Nature is continually trying to kill you
As are stock
As is farm machinery
Floods bushfires snakes drought

Nature is always trying to demolish you
Coronavirus is simply one in a very very long line of things trying to take you out

So there is no such thing as a safe space
This is what we need to get through to the all nurturing breastfeeding
Anastasia palashay and her chief health officer
You cannot keep nature at bay forever

It's the first story of the Bible for god's sake
Man tries to construct the perfect garden
A garden being a place when nature is brought to order
But it is impossible to keep the snakes out

And it is through confronting nature
That we learn that we are the sorts of creature
That can prevail

This is the only way forward to legitimate self-esteem

if you have battled coronary artery disease as you have
If you have faced off against cancer as you have
These things elevate you

The more things you can face-off against
Prevail against
The more you become

The more you try to shelter in your house
Hiding from a little piece of viral RNA
The less you become

All cancer survivors say this
Beating it was one of the most meaningful things in their life
It often defines them
It certainly makes them more likely to kneel before the refrigerator
And feel a deep sense of gratitude
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Reply #51 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 8:46am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 6:34am:
The overly compassionate modern feminine world
Tries to create endless safe spaces


And that's the crux of your issues.

If you can't equate an action to something you can deem strong and aligning with the Alpha mentality you so desperately cling to in order feel like you have some sort of power in your personal life, it's therefore weak, feminine and wrong.

Every time this happens you try to mask what I think boils down to you celebrating anti-intellectualism into some age-old psychological truth to justify your point of view when in reality it's just window dressing on the standard manosphere logic out there to help men continue to blame others for all their problems and failures in life and love rather than taking responsibility and bettering themselves, even though you claim at the time they should do that, but can't because of the evil matriarchy holding young men back, oppressing them and making them feminine.
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Reply #52 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 8:56am
 
I would consider a Celibate Male (no kids, a dedication to the 'people' or society, etc) Alpha compared to the Beta 'Gay' version who thinks that not having sex with women, means you have to have sex with males.  Roll Eyes

I would consider a Family Male (five kids and a decent respectable job that just provides) an Alpha compared to the Beta 'Redneck' who has more kids than he can afford and has to compromise his way of life to crime and violence to afford his passage.

Should I go into Romantics (Alpha) v the Wankers (Beta)?
Or the Business Man (Alpha) v the Yobbo (Beta)?

So you can see, there is more than one way an Alpha can skin a Beta cat.
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Reply #53 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 9:20am
 
Jasin wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 8:56am:
I would consider a Celibate Male (no kids, a dedication to the 'people' or society, etc) Alpha compared to the Beta 'Gay' version who thinks that not having sex with women, means you have to have sex with males.  Roll Eyes

I would consider a Family Male (five kids and a decent respectable job that just provides) an Alpha compared to the Beta 'Redneck' who has more kids than he can afford and has to compromise his way of life to crime and violence to afford his passage.

Should I go into Romantics (Alpha) v the Wankers (Beta)?
Or the Business Man (Alpha) v the Yobbo (Beta)?

So you can see, there is more than one way an Alpha can skin a Beta cat.


Yes but then you have the incel and Trump supporter crossover where everything Trump does is Alpha.

So a Family Male, 5 kids and a decent respectable job is a cucked beta because Trump, the forever Alpha, was raw dogging porn stars while his 3rd wife was pregnant with his 5th child.

Any anyone who thinks there should be any sort of equality, be it with races, religions or sexes, they're cucked.

Basically, if you support anything that doesn't put white males first, you're cucked and weak.

And Trump, everything he does is a show of strength, and because he's strong, he's smart.  The louder his voice, the more CAPS HE USES IN A TWEET, the more intelligent he must be.
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Alphas:
Celibate Achiever = White Male
Family Man = Red Male
Romantic = Green Male
Business = Brown Male

Betas:
Poofs = Grey Males.
Wankers = Black Males
Yobbos = Blue Males
Rednecks = Yellow Males.
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Reply #55 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 9:42am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 8:46am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 6:34am:
The overly compassionate modern feminine world
Tries to create endless safe spaces


And that's the crux of your issues.

If you can't equate an action to something you can deem strong and aligning with the Alpha mentality you so desperately cling to in order feel like you have some sort of power in your personal life, it's therefore weak, feminine and wrong.

Every time this happens you try to mask what I think boils down to you celebrating anti-intellectualism into some age-old psychological truth to justify your point of view when in reality it's just window dressing on the standard manosphere logic out there to help men continue to blame others for all their problems and failures in life and love rather than taking responsibility and bettering themselves, even though you claim at the time they should do that, but can't because of the evil matriarchy holding young men back, oppressing them and making them feminine.



Skippy

We are embarking on a radical experiment
The judgemental father
Which has probably been the overarching dominant structure of society for thousands of generations
Has been replaced by the ever nurturing mother

They both had their place

I don't have a problem with compassion for the frail and injured
I don't have a problem with compassion for infants and for the very elderly

The problem is that the compassion Olympics is just completely unhelpful
Our modern political social and intellectual leaders
Have come to see stunts such as
Lighting up the opera house in rainbow colours
Or announcing royal commissions into aboriginal deaths in custody
As somehow being productive of good outcomes
When in fact the beneficiary is usually the reputation
Of the person competing in the virtue signalling Olympics

It sounds mean of me to say
That was going to help African Americans for instance
In the United States
It's not another protest march
It's not another politician signallingthe inherent racism of the United States
It's not more diversity training for police officers

It is for the judgemental father
To grab young black men by the Scruff of the neck
And say that it is no longer acceptable
To father children and then abandon the mother's
As occurs in 60% of African American households
You need to have a more noble picture of what being a father is
You need to give up the gang's and the drugs and the victim mentality
And stay home and read to your children
And be a good role model
And work way diligently in your job
A lift a load
And bounce out of bed in the morning
Supercharged with the ambition
That you are going to make the world a better place

We need to tell people the narrow road to success
Involves all of those things
And it involves nothing to do with blame
Resentment bitterness violence anger looting
An emotional un calibration

The all nurturing feminine cannot deliver that message
that message has to come from the judgemental father
Who tells the young man I expect so much more of you


I don't know what you're talking about with all this in cell nonsense
Not my cup of tea
I just want to see people moving up in the world
And the overly compassionate female influence is absolutely demolishing the upward trajectory of young men especially young men of disadvantage
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Reply #56 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 1:00pm
 
Sweden's been getting things wrong for years now...

"And the overly compassionate female influence is absolutely demolishing the upward trajectory of young men especially young men of disadvantage " .. how true...

But let us never lose track of the reality that, even including this 'nurturing nature' - women are probably much more selfish and self-centred than men are, and are thus not generally suited to leadership.  Quite frankly, women cause more harm when 'in control' than men do - look at our current society and culture in the West.  By demolishing the basic adventuring nature of boys, they are creating a social group that is either whiners or troublemakers - rebels without a cause when their 'cause' should be channeled into that outer layer nurturing that men are so good at and from which they can be excluded at the drop of a whim by - you guessed it - the 'woman' they loved.  Then there is the spectre of this never-ending 'need' to 'equalise' girls/women by giving them artificial props to 'succeed' in every way in our society/culture - I warn you that the long term harm of EXCLUDING men/boys will be tremendous, and one of the least desirable outcomes is the way silly young girls adopt the mantle of the rampant slut and adhere to the 'bad boy' - same as always, only nowadays they never grow up but remain remain stuck in that contradiction, often sticking with serial 'bad boys' for life and wondering where their life went.

I've been watching such a scenario unfold for a while now..... and thus far it has been an enormously costly exercise to the woman concerned....

Anyway - like Churchill in 'Darkest Hours', I've been warning you all about the feminist monster for thirty-eight years now - I'm hardly likely to applaud it as it marches up Whitehall.. and I certainly will not be negotiating a 'peace' with it on its terms.... if I stand alone - I stand alone.
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Reply #57 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 2:25pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 1:00pm:
Sweden's been getting things wrong for years now...

"And the overly compassionate female influence is absolutely demolishing the upward trajectory of young men especially young men of disadvantage " .. how true...

But let us never lose track of the reality that, even including this 'nurturing nature' - women are probably much more selfish and self-centred than men are, and are thus not generally suited to leadership.  Quite frankly, women cause more harm when 'in control' than men do - look at our current society and culture in the West.  By demolishing the basic adventuring nature of boys, they are creating a social group that is either whiners or troublemakers - rebels without a cause when their 'cause' should be channeled into that outer layer nurturing that men are so good at and from which they can be excluded at the drop of a whim by - you guessed it - the 'woman' they loved.  Then there is the spectre of this never-ending 'need' to 'equalise' girls/women by giving them artificial props to 'succeed' in every way in our society/culture - I warn you that the long term harm of EXCLUDING men/boys will be tremendous, and one of the least desirable outcomes is the way silly young girls adopt the mantle of the rampant slut and adhere to the 'bad boy' - same as always, only nowadays they never grow up but remain remain stuck in that contradiction, often sticking with serial 'bad boys' for life and wondering where their life went.

I've been watching such a scenario unfold for a while now..... and thus far it has been an enormously costly exercise to the woman concerned....

Anyway - like Churchill in 'Darkest Hours', I've been warning you all about the feminist monster for thirty-eight years now - I'm hardly likely to applaud it as it marches up Whitehall.. and I certainly will not be negotiating a 'peace' with it on its terms.... if I stand alone - I stand alone.


Lol...  The womens are coming for us.  Who would have thought incels had such a long history, 38 years...  I guess there have always been weak men, it's only their congregation under the banner that's new.
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Reply #58 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 3:03pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 2:25pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 1:00pm:
Sweden's been getting things wrong for years now...

"And the overly compassionate female influence is absolutely demolishing the upward trajectory of young men especially young men of disadvantage " .. how true...

But let us never lose track of the reality that, even including this 'nurturing nature' - women are probably much more selfish and self-centred than men are, and are thus not generally suited to leadership.  Quite frankly, women cause more harm when 'in control' than men do - look at our current society and culture in the West.  By demolishing the basic adventuring nature of boys, they are creating a social group that is either whiners or troublemakers - rebels without a cause when their 'cause' should be channeled into that outer layer nurturing that men are so good at and from which they can be excluded at the drop of a whim by - you guessed it - the 'woman' they loved.  Then there is the spectre of this never-ending 'need' to 'equalise' girls/women by giving them artificial props to 'succeed' in every way in our society/culture - I warn you that the long term harm of EXCLUDING men/boys will be tremendous, and one of the least desirable outcomes is the way silly young girls adopt the mantle of the rampant slut and adhere to the 'bad boy' - same as always, only nowadays they never grow up but remain remain stuck in that contradiction, often sticking with serial 'bad boys' for life and wondering where their life went.

I've been watching such a scenario unfold for a while now..... and thus far it has been an enormously costly exercise to the woman concerned....

Anyway - like Churchill in 'Darkest Hours', I've been warning you all about the feminist monster for thirty-eight years now - I'm hardly likely to applaud it as it marches up Whitehall.. and I certainly will not be negotiating a 'peace' with it on its terms.... if I stand alone - I stand alone.


Lol...  The womens are coming for us.  Who would have thought incels had such a long history, 38 years...  I guess there have always been weak men, it's only their congregation under the banner that's new.


180 degrees wrong.

women are suffering record anxiety depression and breakdown because men (circa 2020) are weak , timid, virtuous, tame, overgrown children who offer no strength that women desperately need to lean on.

i understand why weak men love to be a chode and sit on the couch and do nothing, risk nothing and contribute nothing.

standing up straight and assuming the burden of leadership doesnt come from a lust for power.
it comes from a sense of duty and a sense of selflessness
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Reply #59 - Jun 8th, 2020 at 4:49pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 3:03pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 2:25pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 1:00pm:
Sweden's been getting things wrong for years now...

"And the overly compassionate female influence is absolutely demolishing the upward trajectory of young men especially young men of disadvantage " .. how true...

But let us never lose track of the reality that, even including this 'nurturing nature' - women are probably much more selfish and self-centred than men are, and are thus not generally suited to leadership.  Quite frankly, women cause more harm when 'in control' than men do - look at our current society and culture in the West.  By demolishing the basic adventuring nature of boys, they are creating a social group that is either whiners or troublemakers - rebels without a cause when their 'cause' should be channeled into that outer layer nurturing that men are so good at and from which they can be excluded at the drop of a whim by - you guessed it - the 'woman' they loved.  Then there is the spectre of this never-ending 'need' to 'equalise' girls/women by giving them artificial props to 'succeed' in every way in our society/culture - I warn you that the long term harm of EXCLUDING men/boys will be tremendous, and one of the least desirable outcomes is the way silly young girls adopt the mantle of the rampant slut and adhere to the 'bad boy' - same as always, only nowadays they never grow up but remain remain stuck in that contradiction, often sticking with serial 'bad boys' for life and wondering where their life went.

I've been watching such a scenario unfold for a while now..... and thus far it has been an enormously costly exercise to the woman concerned....

Anyway - like Churchill in 'Darkest Hours', I've been warning you all about the feminist monster for thirty-eight years now - I'm hardly likely to applaud it as it marches up Whitehall.. and I certainly will not be negotiating a 'peace' with it on its terms.... if I stand alone - I stand alone.


Lol...  The womens are coming for us.  Who would have thought incels had such a long history, 38 years...  I guess there have always been weak men, it's only their congregation under the banner that's new.


180 degrees wrong.

women are suffering record anxiety depression and breakdown because men (circa 2020) are weak , timid, virtuous, tame, overgrown children who offer no strength that women desperately need to lean on.

i understand why weak men love to be a chode and sit on the couch and do nothing, risk nothing and contribute nothing.

standing up straight and assuming the burden of leadership doesnt come from a lust for power.
it comes from a sense of duty and a sense of selflessness


I point the finger of blame squarely at 'feminism' which includes the mangina running dogs who support it without thought.... nothing 180 deg wrong about that.... you are discussing the consequences of their own actions in most cases - I was discussing the actions themselves.

Under the feminist flag - any silly sheila can just figure she's sick of the husband, and KNOW that she will come out well while he is bust and cast on the scrap-heap.  Some of them even do it maliciously so as to 'get back' at him over often imagined petty grievances... when you are an emotion-based being flitting from feeling to feeling on a momentary basis and having that Absolute Right to use that as Power handed to you by legal chicaneries, that is inevitable.

The aim of 'feminism', designed and built as it was by the patriarchy itself, was to reduce under despotism MEN in the West, for the simple reason that men are most likely to laugh at some Beta twit ordering them about and most likely to reject despotism.  'feminism' was a very cunning move by the Betas to smash the genuine Alphas, who in reality, rather being used car salesmen types who draw the chicks with bullshit, are the real providers and nurturers in many ways.

It's called Leadership... not despotism.....
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